I just watched this, HH, and one thing that is obvious from it is that Marty isn't aware of *everything* Hubbard told us.
Grounding the body to "bleed off excess charge" is a Hubbardian recommendation.
Hubbard tells us to grab the nearest water pipe, DM has obviously taken that concept and stylised it.
I can't recall the exact reference on it but I've known about it since the 70s.
I actually enjoyed watching the interaction between Mike and Marty.
Lol, it's there somewhere. You don't think I made it up do you?I am holding onto a water pipe and typing with the other hand.
I must not be applying that tech correctly because I still feel charge on delusional cult members congratulating themselves on being free of stupid ideas while they are piously pretending to recall "implant stations" from trillions of years ago.
(ps: would be cool if anyone can find Hubbard's dizzyingly daffy grounding tech--if it exists in fact)
Lol, it's there somewhere. You don't think I made it up do you?
I first heard of it in the mid 70s, I think, so it's probably in a book or on a tape.
There was a time when I used to grab the nearest water pipe... oh wait, that was when I was smoking a lot of hash!
Seriously, what I find MOST interesting is that Marty (Mr Tek) has obviously never heard of it.
I just watched this, HH, and one thing that is obvious from it is that Marty isn't aware of *everything* Hubbard told us.
Grounding the body to "bleed off excess charge" is a Hubbardian recommendation.
Hubbard tells us to grab the nearest water pipe, DM has obviously taken that concept and stylised it.
I can't recall the exact reference on it but I've known about it since the 70s.
I actually enjoyed watching the interaction between Mike and Marty.
Lol, it's there somewhere. You don't think I made it up do you?
I first heard of it in the mid 70s, I think, so it's probably in a book or on a tape.
There was a time when I used to grab the nearest water pipe... oh wait, that was when I was smoking a lot of hash!
Seriously, what I find MOST interesting is that Marty (Mr Tek) has obviously never heard of it.
That's probably true but that is NOT the point I'm making.In ancient Greece, they used copper for healing, preventing pregnancy, etc. Grounding to the earth, with or without a conduit, is as natural an instinct and nothing new. Not Hubbard's invention.
Source......no.
Lol, it's there somewhere. You don't think I made it up do you?
From Scn 8-80:
This vibration, theoretically, can increase to a strong current which becomes so great it is well to ground your preclear by using an E-Meter or letting him hold a wire in each hand which is connected to a bare water pipe or radiator. Otherwise, his MEST body may be damaged by the flow.Paul
That's probably true but that is NOT the point I'm making.
My point is that Mike is telling a story which ridicules DM because of the copper-grounding-tech. Marty comes up with weird reasons for DM doing this and it is obvious (at least to me) that neither Marty nor Mike know that this is a Hubbard recommended action.
It's a piece of Hubb-tech which DM has revived with a modern twist (there probably ain't too many radiators or water pipes in modern auditing rooms). When they criticise this "tech" they are unintentionally (?) criticising Hubbard. This tech has been known about and USED in scientology whilst Hubbard was at the helm.
I did a pretty thorough investigation of it when I first read about it in the 70s, I always questioned ideas that were new to me. I've tried it and used it to turn off a psychotic break (it worked).
I'm not discussing whether or not it's valid or something Hubbard discovered (he didn't) I'm saying that M & M are actually dissing their Homeboy through ignorance of it as a piece of Hubbard-tech.
So Miscavige thinks he invented the Tinfoil Hat and Rathbun tries to uses Hubbard's brand of Batshit Crazy to explain why Miscavige is Batshit Crazy.
The best part is definitely when Rinder is like WTF? I'm telling a story of how whacked Miscavige is and this guy is debating what's the best way to get to Batshit Crazy
From Scn 8-80:
This vibration, theoretically, can increase to a strong current which becomes so great it is well to ground your preclear by using an E-Meter or letting him hold a wire in each hand which is connected to a bare water pipe or radiator. Otherwise, his MEST body may be damaged by the flow.Paul
Of course you dare ask.Do I dare ask???
Are you saying that there is more LRH Tech/Scripture on this grounding stuff, besides the reference Paul cited?
Are you saying that a psychotic break was resolved by having someone simply touch a grounded wire? Care to elaborate?
In my personal experience, I was able to turn off a psychotic-break-from-reality (my own, aka "the bridge") by letting go of wires (connected to cans) whereupon I stood up and walked out of Scientology, promptly recovering from the modern science of mental illness.