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Beware the Labyrinth

Sindy

Crusader
Tonight I was sent this website from a friend still connected to the church. It was sent to him, to send to me, to get me to come to my senses, I guess.

I was specifically told to read this piece:

http://truthbetold.onsourcescn.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=175:beware-the-labyrinth

So, the person who sent it to my friend who sent it to me, is super excited that this has been created to combat all the insanity. :omg:

Does anybody know anything about who put this site together? Do you know any of the people who have attached their names to their stories?

This site is very sad but is being viewed by my ex-friend as so wonderful and amazing. I am so glad I am out. Sheesh. :melodramatic:
 

programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
The truth is: this handful of squirrel SPs will never succeed as the Church continues to flourish and prosper and expand as never before,

The truth is that "the Church" has collapsed from the early 1980s and onward. Maybe you could point that out.

This person is seriously deluded. Unfortunately those who are still "in" will believe anything.
 

Div6

Crusader
Wow! What a load of PR. "Leaving the door open, even if it is only a crack..."

But still, no stats, no DATA, just PR. The fact that they even put this up shows that the ESPEES are impinging heavily.....its damage control, and not very convincing...

And no mention of Denial Dave.....interiorized and cowering, as usual...using sock puppets to further his Wizard of Oz act....

Proxy up and taste the new flavour of the month....lol.
 

lie2meiluvit

Patron with Honors
"that reading hours and hours of entheta on the net is the modern form of the old activity of deprogramming!"
To me that right there says it all. Isn't this what needs to be done? This person basically admitted that you are programmed. What a foot bullet!
 

Sindy

Crusader
Wow! What a load of PR. "Leaving the door open, even if it is only a crack..."

But still, no stats, no DATA, just PR. The fact that they even put this up shows that the ESPEES are impinging heavily.....its damage control, and not very convincing...

And no mention of Denial Dave.....interiorized and cowering, as usual...using sock puppets to further his Wizard of Oz act....

Proxy up and taste the new flavour of the month....lol.

I know. The true stats, if you will, are the sheer numbers of people coming to this board even in the last week. Since I signed up just about 6 weeks ago, there have been, it seems, 1 to 3 each day, it's incredible. It took me a while before I was brave enough to post here :giggle: so I know that there are many others just lurking.

I just wanted to bring it to light, because it seems new and so people get as much info about this to help those trying to "handle them" as this seems to be circulating as some kind of handling, as ridiculous as that may be!
 

Sindy

Crusader
"that reading hours and hours of entheta on the net is the modern form of the old activity of deprogramming!"
To me that right there says it all. Isn't this what needs to be done? This person basically admitted that you are programmed. What a foot bullet!

I thought that exact same thing! Major foot bullet but, it will pass by the indoctrinated Scientologist uninspected.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
From that website:

"But it became very apparent within minutes of meeting them, that they were full of natter. And while non-ideal situations can exist, there is no such thing as justified natter."
This 'success story's' verbatim quote is so insane that it is actually correct, inadvertently! The reason for that comes from wholetrack research, which revealed:

EVEN A BROKEN CLOCK IS RIGHT TWICE A DAY

and the newest breakthrough....

EVEN A BROKE SCIENTOLOGIST IS RIGHT TWICE A DAY

So, this person claims there is no such thing as justified natter. As a power natterer, I can attest that they are right.

Natter about insane cults does not need to be justified.
 
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Mystic

Crusader
That website lives up well to the Hubbard-thing's Prime Directive:

The way to control people is to lie to them.
 

Sindy

Crusader
"I have seen and experienced firsthand the pain that has been created as a result of the actions from these suppressives."

What pain exactly?

Super Scientologist Savior: I'm so sorry you had to read all that bad stuff on the Internet.

The Victim: I know, Suzie, I am so sad to learn that I can get my whole bridge for about a tenth of the price as they are charging me at the org. :bigcry:

Super Scientologist Savior: That's terrible!

The Victim: And, and, I don't have to give away everything I earn and be stressed out all the time. :bigcry:

Super Scientologist Savior: No! Well, we'll put an end to that! There, there. :console:

The Victim: And, I've been allowed to think for myself and say exactly what I think. :bigcry:

Super Scientologist Savior: Outrageous! :angry:

The Victim: Please reprogram me. I can't go on. :begging:

Super Scientologist Savior: Here, read about "The Labyrinth" :ohmy:

The Victim: Take me to your leader. :spacecraft::ship:
 

Arthur Dent

Silver Meritorious Patron
http://www.scientology-cult.com/declarations-of-independence/376-lana-mitchell-ex-rtc-ex-miscavige-chef.html

But will Lana Mitchell go back into the S.O. at Int?
They re-captured her for PR and made it easy for her to be a public. All of a sudden they magically have "standard" ethics and "standard com-ev" to help her redeem herself so smoothly? Congratulations Lana, they've done it to you again!

So tired of the brainwash. I think anyone still a scientologist just has not gotten over the need for control.
 

Sindy

Crusader
http://www.scientology-cult.com/declarations-of-independence/376-lana-mitchell-ex-rtc-ex-miscavige-chef.html

But will Lana Mitchell go back into the S.O. at Int?
They re-captured her for PR and made it easy for her to be a public. All of a sudden they magically have "standard" ethics and "standard com-ev" to help her redeem herself so smoothly? Congratulations Lana, they've done it to you again!

So tired of the brainwash. I think anyone still a scientologist just has not gotten over the need for control.

That's the kind of info I wanted to see. Thanks. Interesting! :)
 

Sindy

Crusader
http://www.scientology-cult.com/declarations-of-independence/376-lana-mitchell-ex-rtc-ex-miscavige-chef.html

But will Lana Mitchell go back into the S.O. at Int?
They re-captured her for PR and made it easy for her to be a public. All of a sudden they magically have "standard" ethics and "standard com-ev" to help her redeem herself so smoothly? Congratulations Lana, they've done it to you again!

So tired of the brainwash. I think anyone still a scientologist just has not gotten over the need for control.

Oh yeah!!!! I remember when she came out on * Marty's blog. OMG. :omg: This makes no sense! This is fascinating to me. We are watching a sick social experiment right in front of our eyes.

* Correction: Steve's blog.
 

R2-45

Silver Meritorious Patron
There is something deeply significant and disturbing here

I just visited and came back from the link in the OP. It made my skin crawl to be there. It felt familiar to me and strange in the same sort of way an old well-worn pair of shoes seem strange yet familiar when putting them on after a long time of not wearing them. So, I wondered what if the world was really like it is implied there in the OP's link? What would it be like if the world was really that way? Then I realized that I had been there once before. I had allowed or experienced the consequence of allowing the world to be that way once. A sobering thought which gave me pause and as I recovered my composure, I was reminded of the novel, by Philip K. Dick, "Eye In The Sky."

In that novel, eight people fall into and are are trapped in a beam of a bevatron particle accelerator. One by one, the survivors experience what the world would be like if each of them in turn created what they consider a perfect world to be, based on their prejudices. A brief plot description/peek:

"...Hamilton wakes up that same afternoon in a hospital bed and is not much hurt after all. His wife is even less hurt and is in the room waiting for him. They go home, but begin to suspect that something is seriously wrong, and his experiences the next day when he applies for a job with an electronics company run by a friend of his father's amply confirm his suspicions. In fact, the victims of the accident are trapped in the delusional world of the religious member of the group, the elderly gentleman Arthur Silvester, and the development of this world and their adventures in it take up more than half of the book. After some time in this world, the people begin to take on the characteristics of stereotypical members of the groups Silvester sees them as belonging too. Their escape from this world comes when Silvester is knocked unconscious during a fight between the others and some vengeful angels.

Relief at escape from illusion is short lived: they are now subject to the beliefs of the prudish middle-aged woman. Luckily she will abolish from her world anything she finds distasteful when it is pointed out to her. Since the processes of life are rather messy, she can be manoeuvred into rendering life impossible, thus killing herself and everybody else, which gets them out of that world, but into a yet worse one of paranoid fantasy, which is however also self destructive. The next illusory world is someone's communist vision of capitalist America, complete with bloated plutocrats and heroic labour leaders. The pain and struggle of the dissolution of this final fantasy merge into the pain of real life and the efforts to rescue and treat the accident victims...."

Excerpted review from:
www.librarything.com/topic/71897

There is something deeply significant and disturbing here. I'll be thinking about it further. I hope to come up with an insight that may be of value to others. I thought I'd post the thought here to sort of fix it for future reference if I do manage to come up with something worthwhile. :yes:
 
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Ogsonofgroo

Crusader
I think HH and Mystic have pretty much summed it up on the first page, comment on "just like deprogrammers..." should be a huge hint thar too. oi.
I am not going to bother atm to go and check out the site (laughed enough tonight thanks, at things everyone thought was funny) as it smells like a desperate spin to turn anyone looking for answers, to turn them back and get back, and get them back into the milking stalls and on the righteous nipple of blind acceptance again. Just my off the hip take given the basic infos.
I'll take my slaps if wrong.

wee adenum edit thingy> "You are straying from "The Truth ala the Source Lron", there is no other truth because He said it is so, everyone else is wrong.....blah-blah-blather, don't look at it! it could hurt your chances of eternity.... blah-blah..."
Sheesh.
 

Infinite

Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
There's little doubt the site is a Scilon attempt to lure recent escapees back in and/or stop people looking on the internet.

If she ever was a genuine escapee, Australian Lana Mitchell (aka Solace) has certainly done a wondrous flip-flop. Check her "declaration of independence" posted over at Martyworld in June.

Contributor, Diana Wagenbrenner Bush has been identified by Martyworld as being "a card carrying member of DM’s RTC intel ops corps."

Martyworld commentator Mike Hobson claims that site's contributor Rye Gardner was or is "D/CO For Ethics And Image’s MAA PAC Base" and a confirmed kool aid drinker.

Scientologist Jack Farlane is over there, posting miraculous success stories" where, like a scene from a Christian charlatan's festival he threw away a cane and walked again - hallelujah, praise LRH and pass the credit cards!!

The contributor "Dagny" also appears to be someone who has dithered about the edges of the cult but has since been recaptured. Its always difficult to tell for sure, there are a few "Dagny" comments about the net - there's even a registered user here by that name but has never commented. What a shame.

Other contributors - Stephanie Leriche and a bunch of "just initials" - all tell a similar story about being tempted into looking at entheta, having their lives go haywire as a result, and the enduring peace of mind and spiritual bliss they have encountered since recanting their doubts.

Desperate cult is desperate.
 

TEoS

Patron with Honors
I wish I had a dollar for every time I read that the cult is "expanding like never before". It just goes to show that if you repeat a lie often enough to some people, they'll start to believe it.
 

Mest Lover

Not Sea Org Qualified
"I have seen and experienced firsthand the pain that has been created as a result of the actions from these suppressives."

What pain exactly?


Headaches?
feeling wooden all the time
spinning?

thumb pain from turning dictionary pages looking for things llike xenu, freedom, cult, esmb, ocmb

oooh the agony.
 

Terril park

Sponsor
Tonight I was sent this website from a friend still connected to the church. It was sent to him, to send to me, to get me to come to my senses, I guess.

I was specifically told to read this piece:

http://truthbetold.onsourcescn.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=175:beware-the-labyrinth

So, the person who sent it to my friend who sent it to me, is super excited that this has been created to combat all the insanity. :omg:

Does anybody know anything about who put this site together? Do you know any of the people who have attached their names to their stories?

This site is very sad but is being viewed by my ex-friend as so wonderful and amazing. I am so glad I am out. Sheesh. :melodramatic:

This is a sign of extreme desperation. It in effect attacks the creed, tells
one they should not - look- , refers people to Marty and his website, and has lots of stories by people allegedly declared SP, most of whom are ex SO and
thus considered degraded beings.
 

Veda

Sponsor
Scientology is the way it is because it was designed that way by its founder.

The fake PR-display "Creed" accompanied the "Religion angle."

From the 1955 'Manual on Dissemination of Material' (Perhaps best known for Hubbard's instructions to use the legal system as a means of harassment, and to "ruin utterly."):

"Permitting it [Scientology] to be talked about contemptuously before a group should never be permitted...

"...the communication line [to "wogs" and "raw meat"] is that Scientologists do not pose any threat, that Scientologists are good citizens, and that they can be trusted with problems of a private and confidential nature... Another frame of mind that we would like to see the public have and register are that people attacking Scientologists have something wrong with them... As a subdivision of this, the actual substance of communication about what Scientology actually is... from the general public to the general public [what the "wogs" and "raw meat" should say to each other about Scientology] should be that Scientology says that good health and immortality are attainable. That it is compounded out of all Man knows about Man..."

The essence of the SP Doctrine can be found in Hubbard's writings as early as 1950 and 1951, although it wasn't formalized until 1965.

John Sanborn was the editor of many of Hubbard's early books, and of 'Ability' magazine. (Sanborn tried unsuccessfully to have "disposed of quietly and without sorrow" and "no rights of any kind" - for the anti-Dn/anti-Scn/anti-LRH low toned - removed from 'Science of Survival'.)

Here Sanborn comments on the first SP Declare:

"Hubbard had Marilyn Routsong, who was the World Wide Ethics Officer at St. Hill, deliver the first Suppressive Person Declare. He had written this system up and now he was going to use it.

"Hubbard said declare so and so. And she put out the Order. Boy, in those days, being Declared was like a death sentence.

"He said, 'As soon as you give him the order come back.' And when she did he said, 'How did he act? What did he say? Did he say anything?' He was thrilled like a kid to see how his dictatorial system was going to work."

Hubbard, from 1965, describing some Scientology "crimes" or "suppressive acts":

"DISAVOWAL, SPLINTERING, DIVERGENCE:
"Public disavowal of Scientology...
"Announcing departure from Scientology...
"Dependence on mental or philosophy procedures other than Scientology..."


From Hubbard's (secretly authored) 1955 'Brainwashing Manual' http://www.carolineletkeman.org/sp/images/stories/brainwash/bw-manual-front.jpg [With word substitution]:

"It should become well known that only the insane attack Psychiatry [Scientology]...
"An immediate attack on the sanity of the attacker is the best defense...
"It's important to know that the entire subject of loyalty is thus as easily handled as it is. One of the first and foremost missions of the psycho-politician [Scientology] is to make an attack on Communism [Scientology] and insanity anonymous. No layman [rank and file Scientologist] would dare adventure to place judgment upon the state of sanity of an individual whom the Psychiatrist [Scientology] has already declared [a Suppressive Person] insane..."

In 1960, five years before instituting the SP Doctrine, Hubbard had introduced metered Security Checking in which the person was asked, "Have you ever had unkind thoughts about LRH?"
 
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