Infinite
Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
Thanks for persisting, I know I'm not God's brightest little candle. I'm really just trying to get a handle on Body Thetans. The theory I'm working on is that all of Scientology is a "dangling carrot" system - first the communication course, then Engrams, then Clear, then its onto the Body Thetans.
No, I didn't read Paul's OP - but Quote For Excellence:
. . . okay, so once I've eliminated sufficient Engrams so as to be able to perceive that I am mocking up my reactive mind - (25 times a second - whew!!) - what is the "carrot" between Clear and OTIII?
No, I didn't read Paul's OP - but Quote For Excellence:
***CONFIDENTIAL*** ***CLEAR COGNITION***
I really don't know if this will mess up anyone's case if they are not "Clear", or what the state really means any more, if it even exists. However...
A couple of people have posted here recently saying the Clear Cog is realizing that "I mocked up my Reactive Mind." It isn't. It is realizing that "I am mocking up my Reactive Mind." It is completely different, completely. Completely.
"Mocking up" means doing it in present time, right now, continuously, repetitively, each instant as it goes by, bam, bam, bam, bam, Hubbard said 25 times a second in the famous 1963 Time Track HCOBs. It's not that one mocked it up once, like you had an accident ten years ago and made a picture of it (engram) at the time and you sort of carry that picture around with you ever after, having made it in the past. You are creating that picture in a new unit of time every instant POW POW POW POW POW, at least, you are when it is in restim to some extent.
Don't ask me the exact mechanics of this. It implies that Hubbard had it all right, and he didn't.
For some reason the difference between mocked it up in the past and mocking it up continuously in present time is hard for some people to grasp. I remember a Grad V guy I checked out on auditing the CCRD around 1993. He was "OT VIII." He had a cold, and look a real mess. After about an hour of trying to get him to see the difference - and I was a trained sup and knew about misunderstoods and earlier similar mis-u's and e/s subjects etc. - I finally "realized" that the reason he couldn't see it (and also why he was in such a mess case-wise) was because he wasn't personally Clear. Now I don't know at all, but I have had trouble with other people - who attested OT whatever in the CofS and were Class VI and so forth - not easily grasping the difference between having mocked it up PFFT! at some point in the past and mocking it up in present time now now now now now now now now now now now now now...
Get the idea? If not, I tried!
Paul
. . . okay, so once I've eliminated sufficient Engrams so as to be able to perceive that I am mocking up my reactive mind - (25 times a second - whew!!) - what is the "carrot" between Clear and OTIII?