Zinj, you raise a good point.
"Matt Faye was seen a couple of weeks prior to the raid with his mother the NOTS C/S of the AO, they were on the streets.
This is very odd, RPFers do not have days off and no one could make sense of it, it was known at that time he wanted to leave the SO and had for some time.
.....and were told that he had been sent out of the country the dawning realisation that Matt had been slated to be shipped out per the operational policy of the RPF to put people through the PGM at a remote location...."
As an Ex SO, and Ex RPFer I can vouch that time with mum, or any other family member that is not SO, or not a Scn,
is granted in some situations - and might be considered by an outsider as 'a day off' if sighted walking along on the street.
In an instance I know about, that required use of one of the rooms of the Cadet Org (a separate unit in a town house complex at "Fountain Court" in Glebe); there was someone who wanted to blow, who was labelled 'psychotic' and required 24 hour watch - and handling by the C/S (shore story) who was a 'threat' and put under 24 watch, the SO just needed a 'room', and a rotating roster of HCO and Security personnel from CLO ANZO or AOSH ANZO (as an immediate solution) much easier and quieter, keeping it 'in house' than trying to find a safe house or even involve anyone outside of the SO.
However, after a week or so, the 'threat' who was isolated to this room, wasn't actually psychotic at first, but became, after a few days of not having any response to his questions (as no one is allowed to speak to the threat at all) really became psychotic, and labelled PTS Type 3 and under strict 'supervision' and handling from the C/S (which meant to isolate etc) - a 'long term trusted' OT was approached (as happened a few times with others in this instance when the 'handling' got to this point) to use his farm out in the country as the best location for this 'threat'.
I understand this person and farm may not be around anymore - however there are other farms in the country when a situation gets too 'hot', after the initial standard 'threat', 'psychotic' or 'PTS Type 3' handlings. Far easier and cheaper option.
There seem like a lot of postings on this thread that skirt around the original simple question that wasn't answered straight up:
Whether Matt Faye was out of the country or not and whether there is any truth to the statement about Matt Faye being 'reported' as being out of the country.
Some postings have alleged that this information was given by the Immigration Department to ....the police - and then passed on to.....a general public person?
The original question could have been answered in one post,
if known - however it hasn't been answered, consequently all the pages of speculation.
Feral, a few times I have seen Carmel's name been thrown out on threads, and here - disrelated to the topic and with really dark inuendos, seems like a personal insult to me and even slanderous of Carmel. Do ESMB rules not apply here?
Sorry if this comment of mine seems narky but I take offence at what's been said here about a friend and someone who has been a friend to you. I find it really hard to take when you can forget so easily that it was Carmel who rounded up friends to come and help you and your family after your property was devastated by fires, and my husband and I answered the call to help you, along with other mates here on the ESMB.
I’ve known Carmel for years. You know she speaks openly and publicly about those things she is passionate about.
Anything she’s said to me in private over this past year and a half, regarding ESMB, she’s also posted on the board. She’s one of the most upfront people I know. Her friends and her enemies always seem to know her stance because she doesn’t hide it - and what she says privately doesn’t differ from what she says publicly.
She also communicates what she feels despite personal consequences.
If Carmel is 'quiet' about something then it’s more likely that she’s lost her passion for it, or her passion for the subject has been killed off. I’ve seen enough posts to Carmel in recent months that would be enough to kill the passion that anyone had, but she persisted despite some personal attacks from her friends here.
I know that Carmel doesn’t procrastinate nor cry over spilt milk for too long. She has a good ability to recognize where things are at, and move on if she feels she needs to. I also know that Carmel has started a new chapter in her life but I don’t know where Carmel is at right now on ESMB because I’ve been busy, and haven’t had time to ask her and she’s also working long hours and hasn’t spoken to me about it on the odd occasion when we have spoken.
If Carmel was (as I've seen insinuated) - back channelling and causing trouble - then I think I’d know about it - even with our separate work commitments.
Feral, I think you owe Carmel an apology for this post and others in recent months which have also contained similar false overtones, and please - if you don't know the answer to a direct question, why be so outspoken and insinuate that you do? When you talk about
"slated to be shipped out per operational policy of the RPF" it sounds like you have read it and that there is actual 'policy' written on this topic.
It creates a lot of frustration and ambiguity - hence I notice the number of backwards and forwards on this thread, with a lot of people trying to get a straight answer to a question.