Thanks you very much Emma
Permit me to point out, this is NOT about my feud with Diana. She has been over here slandering me and degrading me for over a year and I have not bothered to respond. That should tell people something. There was an entire thread dedicated to fairgaming me here that I did not have interest in responding to. She outed me twice (to get at my husband) (that is between them now) and I did not respond on this forum. This is not about my feud with her.
These are the things written about children and their lives, reported as facts with no evidence to back it up, that I think out of respect for those children should be removed. One of them passed away and his siblings and parents have to have these things up about it on the net. It is on the Ivan thread:
Posts by Diana
About Ivan, I don't know what got onto him to abandon his children like that...It was horrible for me to see them growing up alone with no love and with no direction and rejected by the SO...I invited Sasha as much as I could to spend the night at my house and he loved it. Last time I spoke with him was few days before he died. He was incoherent.
Ivan comitted a crime as a father, as far as I am concerned.
Diana
Yes, his mother was Nancy a mousy looking/behaving SO member at AOLA and his step dad was a cook at the restaurant in CC. Nancy did not care about her children. I told her many times she need to take a break from staff and take care of them but she would not hear of it. She seemed like a lazy person that was always dazed and confused.
Diana
Yes, all of that is true...his mom was the OT2 supervisor at AOLA and I don't know how many times I told her about her children and she always said they were doing fine...she could not cope with being abandoned by Ivan and having to raise 3 children on her own and she just simply abandoned them too.
Diana
Ivan blew the SO and abandoned his children at a young age, he totally disconnected from them knowing well how horrible the conditions were in the SO.
Serge, Yuri and Sasha. One blew both his hands off, the other is a normal guy and Sasha lost his mind from some illness or lack of nutrition, he used to live across the street from CCI and his stepfather used to bring him the leftovers from the restaurant where he was a chief.
They all grew up alone without a father and a mother; Sasha used to spend a lot of time in my house, I wanted to raise him along with my son but his mother did not let him...yet she did not take care of him.
Sadly he passed away at the age of 20 or something like that.
It has nothing to do with the SO or Scientology, it has to do with irrespnsible parenting.
Ivan came from a rich famliy in Russia, their story was in the cover of time magazone. I had no respect for Ivan or his ex-wife...
Diana
My god gottabrain, you have the facts really clear about Ivan and his family and I agree with you that those kids grew up in complete neglet and poverty.
It is one of the saddest stories in Scn.
Thank you,
Diana
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 835
Here is what it says on Sasha's myspace:
This profile is in memory of Sasha Obolensky
Sasha was a great guy and friend. He loved to make people laugh and he was great at it. He was a very strong person that got what he wanted for the most part. At the early age of 16, Sash wanted to live on his own and he made it go right to have his own apartment, even though most people over 20 still depend on their parents Sash didn’t. He acted like a kid but did what ever it took to survive, that’s what was great about him, he didn’t let life weigh him down and he kept his life simple like a kid would.
Sash loved to draw, he was pretty good at it too, he also loved taking pictures, skateboarding, watching movies over and over, he could recite his favorite movies and any Looney Tunes episode. I found it quite amazing that he could remember so much.
Sadly Sash was born with a very rare blood disease, I’m not sure of the exact name of the disease; it basically made it so he couldn’t produce white blood cells. Even though he had this disease his whole life; he was still just as active or more active than other kids. Every month Sash would have to go to the hospital to get white blood cells pumped into his body since his body wouldn’t produce them it self, without them he would have died.
When Sash was 24, the rare blood disease caught up to him. From what I know people that have this rare blood disease die at a very early age, much younger then Sash. Sash had a very strong will to live and he fought the disease to the end. The doctors couldn’t understand why he was still alive, when people with that disease die much younger then he did. Maybe it’s because they didn’t know how strong Sash really was.
Although Sasha’s life got really tough at the end, he will always be remembered as a great friend, who always made us laugh and a fighter till the end.
We will miss him and hope he is doing well, where ever he..s at.
Who I'd like to meet:
If any one has pictures or home videos of Sash let me know, you can send them to me and I can post them up on his MySpace.
Please feel free to post any thoughts about Sash you have or fun experiences you may have had with him.
I will build this profile as time goes on.
Sasha's Interests
General Skateboarding, drawing, movies, cartoons, video games, partying, going clubbing, dating, sex, girls, friends…
Music He would always tell me how his favorite music was Classical Music.
Movies The Predator, Star Wars Episode I, II, IV, V, VI.
I’ll find out what other movies he liked.
Television Looney Tunes, Dragonball Z. He loved cartoons.
Heroes I think his biggest hero was his Dad.
Originally Posted by FoTi
Diana, did Ivan ever try to communicate with his kids after he blew?
I asked Sasha once and he said no, not at all, but he loved him the same, his dad was his idol.
Diana
On Pierre's son:
Pierre treats his wife very badly and she would not listen to him. A lot of people asked him to control his wife but the truth of the matter he cannot.
Diana
Mary I agree with you 100% on this and I told him so, I sugested that he took some time off from auditing to handle his personal life, his health, his marriage and his son, but he would not hear of it.
His son was sent to Bulgaria because he was found by the police wondering on the streets in Canada, Pierre and his wife were accused of child neglect, while he tells the world he cured his son, the Canadian authorities want to take the child from him, that is why he was sent to Bulgaria.
He has not seen his son in years, I told him a couple years ago he should go see him, he needs him, he is 13 years old now and Pierre said he could not do such a long trip because of his weight, yet he is now on Australia.
Shame on Pierre for not taking care of his family.
Diana
The poor woman is mentally ill and we cannot assume that she is capable of dealing with a situation of some difficulty when Pierre is away from her home, she just goes in the internet and she starts posting the most insane statements about anything.
I sincerely feel sorry for her, I asked Pierre to take care of her but he would not hear of it.
Diana
No, they never travel together and per what I've seen in her postings in ARS, she actually hates Scientology and the Freezone.
She fills her empty life posting shit about me and Claire in the internet.
Diana
Pierre's son is 15, not 13. They spent last summer with their son. He is in Bulgaria with his grandmother because his mother has to work and only trusts her mother to take care of him. He has never been abandonded. He is doing excellent in school and learned to speak Bulgarian in three months. He loves Bulgary.
What you might not know is that after Diana chewed up Pierre and spit him out she went after his wife. She write GROSS K.R.'s about Pierres weight and what his wifes sex life must be like and sent them to Pierre's Wife's comapny in Canada where they were intercepted by a manager. His wife was dismissed and had a hard time getting a job afterwards because this traveled with her on her references. She is much younger than Pierre and must have a career going for her and her son. So, yes, she got mad and got on the internet and said and did some things that did not seem cogent as nobody had the missing information. She is NOT mentally Ill and this child has never been abused or abandonded.
To post these things on the Internet about his life and history and parents that is utterly false is complete injustice.
To post these stories of the children with their names and their parents names because of grudges with their parents is over the top.