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So on this one I would like one and all to help document all of LRH's claims.
When you think of some outrageous claim or even a banal one try to give a reference where he says it and try to account for how old he was when he did it, as claimed.
Here's a start from a post by Infinite:
Specifically from this link:
Also, from the above he "attended Princeton...POST GRADUATE!!"
And then here's where he saves Australia in the war from Cherished:
When you think of some outrageous claim or even a banal one try to give a reference where he says it and try to account for how old he was when he did it, as claimed.
Here's a start from a post by Infinite:
Talking of wild claims by L Ron Hubbard, check out his details in this 1969 Report to Members of Parliament - note his claim to have held the position of Provost Marshall of Korea!!
Specifically from this link:
DATA SHEET ON LAFAYETTE RONALD HUBBARD
Born 13th March 1911 in Tilden, Nebraska, USA.
Parents: Fedora May Waterbury, Harry Ross Hubbard, both US Citizens.
Father: a US Naval Officer.
Grandfather on mother's side: wealthy Western cattleman.
L. R. Hubbard inherited his fortune and family interests in America, Southern Africa, etc. Hubbard was a man of considerable means completely independent of Scientology.
EDUCATION
L. R. Hubbard attended Swaveley Prep. School, Manassas, Virginia, and Woodward Prep. School, Washington DC, USA and Columbia College, George Washington University, Washington DC in 1932.
Attended Princeton University post-graduate.
CAREER
Led Caribbean Motion Picture Expedition 1933.
Led West Indies Minerals Survey Expedition in 1934.
Wrote for various US magazines.
Worked in Hollywood under motion picture contracts Columbia Pictures 1935.
Many ‘screen credits’ on major stars and pictures.
Led Alaskan Radio Experimental Expedition for US Government in 1940.
Commissioned US Naval Reserve early 1941.
Served in South Pacific.
Served as a captain of corvettes 1941.
Commodore of corvette squadrons 1943.
Amphibious forces 1944-45.
Office of Provost Marshall Korea 1945.
Served in all five theatres of World War II.
21 medals and palms.
Commission in navy — resigned in 1950 after four years on inactive list.
No longer in Navy or on call. No draft liability as drawing full disability compensation.
Hollywood director and writer 1946 on.
Wrote several ‘best selling’ books on applied philosophy 1950. Organized the Hubbard Foundation to handle public interests. Became director and trustee of several international humanitarian organizations.
Also, from the above he "attended Princeton...POST GRADUATE!!"
And then here's where he saves Australia in the war from Cherished:
Hubbard claims he was Senior Officer Present, Naval, in Northern Australia during WWII Melbourne Congress, “Welcome Address”, 7 November 1959
Download a 13 minute excerpt - mp3: http://rapidshare.com/files/218905369/melbourne.mp3
But, Australia! Australia is no stranger to me. I know your country very well. Before the Yanks came, I was Senior Officer Present of Northern Australia. Not because I had any rank. But because there wasn't anybody else there. Perhaps you're aware of the status of a Senior Officer Present, Naval, naval status. It's the flag ashore. Senior Officer Present ashore,
commands all Senior Officer Presents afloat. It's one of these interesting things.
Well, I got mixed up in the early part of the war and got detoured and that sort of thing, and I finally wound up falling back to Brisbane. And I was walking down the street in a bad state of dishabille -- I'd saved some insignia, you know, and the army stopped me and said, "Who are you?"
And I gave my name, rank and serial number.
And they said, "Do you realize that there's no naval officer in this port or in Northern Australia?"
And I said, "Well, I hadn't realized it." Couldn't have cared less, as a matter of fact. I was thinking, "Gosh, it's nice to be alive!"
And -- "Well now, in your regulations," the army said, "I'm sure you will find a clause that says, 'By exigencies of service on foreign station, the Senior Naval Officer Present shall take command of all naval activities."
So I looked at my stripes. I said, "Okay. That's the way it is. I'll sit around and look pretty."
"Look pretty! There's 17 merchantmen in Brisbane lower river; they haven't been brought in. There's 4 million dollars worth of jettisoned cargo laying on the docks that nobody has any responsibility for. There are 250 refugees who have just dropped back from Malaysia and Singapore
that nobody's taking any responsibility for, and you have about 200 naval personnel drifting through this port that nobody's taking any responsibility for. There are enemy agents all over the place. Nobody's taking charge of naval censorship. Well, here's a sergeant and a girl and there's your
office."
For ensuing months, why, I had a ball. Forgot what it was like to sleep. I remember vividly -- you see, Australia had already been written off the books by the US Navy. I don't know if you knew that -- very early in the war. In the US entrance into the war it had been -- it had been written off the books. I opened up the trans-Pacific telephone line and called the Bureau of Naval Operations, Navy Department, Washington, DC, because I'd sent them already ten messages without any single reply. One of them had to do with what the hell did they want me to do with a heavy cruiser? So I just phoned them up clear, straight through. Got the officer of the day right in the Navy Department in the Pentagon in Washington, and I said, "This is Hubbard, Senior Officer Present in Northern Australia. I want to talk to somebody -- who will give me orders for certain vessels in these waters."
And he said, "Just a moment."
And I waited. And the Australian telephone company that I was working with, they waited. Everybody waited. And the voice came back and said, "Well, I'm sorry. There's nobody of that name here." And hung up. Australia didn't exist.
The ship in question -- the ship in question was a heavy cruiser and its four-stripe captain had first come ashore and had looked at me, you know, "What! You're Senior Officer Present ashore?" and had sniffed. And I was trying to get him orders and he was trying to get orders and everybody was trying to do something to get it out of here, because the Japanese might strike in the north at any time.
He finally came in the office, you know, all four stripes and gold braid and so forth, and he said, "Mr. Hubbard," he said, "if you will sign -- if you will sign sailing orders for me, I'll sail."
So I scribbled out: "You are hereby detached from this station and shall proceed upon your way as befits your duties and missions. Signed, L. Ron Hubbard."
A couple of years later I was kicking around -- I had command of a squadron over on the other side of the war -- I was kicking around an officers' club and I was -- just been introduced to somebody and this officer sat there and all of a sudden he went into a brown study, you know. "Did you say your name was Hubbard?"
"That's right."
"Hubbard. Hubbard." He says, "L. R. Hubbard?"
I said, "That's right."
He says, "Good God," he says, "you're that fellow from down in Australia!"
And, actually, through the remainder -- they had kept this set of orders framed on the wall of this US heavy cruiser for the remainder of the war. And actually, throughout the remainder of the war I was known as that fellow who was in Australia. So you see, I must be one of you.
Oh, very funny. Very funny.
I sent four ships to MacArthur, and everybody said, “You mustn't send them.” Refugees all over the place, everybody says, “They're probably all spies, you mustn't do anything with them.”
I keep rounding them up and shoving them aboard ships and people would say, “We can't take the. We have no orders.” I'd say, “Yes, you have. You've got my orders. Take them.”
I remember reading at that time, a US newspaper story. It says, “Where is the US fleet?”
Where is the US fleet? And there's a big picture, you see, of battleships and a map of Australia. “It is guarding the shores of Australia.” The US fleet was on the bottom at Pearl Harbor. Thud. And what was guarding the shores of Australia was a six inch gun in charge of some Australian Naval Reservists down at the mouth of the Brisbane River, a few territorials
with Lee Enfields, and Hubbard with a sub-machine gun. I was the anti-aircraft battery. I actually had bullets for the thing. That was before the Yanks came.
It was very amusing. One of my officers some years later told somebody, “Yes, he's the fellow who was down in Australia. He was relieved by a million men.” Well, we had a ball. One of the jobs I had was keeping enough rumours on the line. And every time we'd find a spy, why, Naval Intelligence and Army Intelligence and so forth, I've actually received
orders: “Take him out in the middle of the harbour and drown him!” See spy. Oh no, I'd just tell him, “Well now, listen. I've got something for you to do, now see.” I'd give them all the data on all the batteries. I'd tell them I was privately a German spy, you see. And I wanted him somehow or other to get the dope to the Japs. All the tremendous masked batteries and the air fields, the tremendous numbers of troops and the battleships and everything that were down here ready to knock the Japs off. Anything to keep the Japanese High Command totally convinced there was something here.
I'll never know, I'll just never know, why Australia came through it at that time. I'll never know the facts. I finally figured out why the allies won the war over the Japs. Because the Jap High Command was stupider than ours. And that's the only real reason for it. Australia had shipped everything it had overseas at that time. There was nothing left in the country. There
was just a handful of troops here, just to make some kind of a show. Any boatload of Jap marines could have taken the country. That was up to almost the end of spring of 1942.
Maybe you didn't even know it was in that condition. But it was really rough. It was something to perspire about quite heavily. I thought I was going to come back to Australia at the end of '42. They shipped me home and within a week gave me Corp Vets (Corvettes?), North Atlantic. I went on fighting submarines in the North Atlantic and doing other things and so on and I finally got a set of orders from a ship.
At that time, I had the squadron and I got a set of orders and these orders said, “You will proceed through the Panama Canal to Auckland and then Melbourne. And I thought, Isn't that nice? Now that the place is in good shape and everything, why maybe I can go back because I think Australia is wonderful. And I called all the officers together in the board (?) room and I said, “Well, here we go and isn't this swell? And everything's fine and this is all super secret and you're not supposed to tell anybody but your girls.”
About 24 hours later, I myself got a set of orders. And it said, “You are hereby detached as commander of the squadron and you will proceed to the training centre in Florida for preparation to take command of a new war vessel.”
The reason you see, the reference was “All NAF something or other, something or other”, which any officer who had served in these waters in area, up to the beginning of summer in 1942, would not be returned to these waters for a year. Now you tell me why, I don't know why. But that was the order they put out because there actually weren't many people got home from the Asiatic Fleet.
Maybe you noticed that there were a few casualties around. And so I got detached and I went to Florida, not Melbourne, and this is the first time I've had the chance to be back. So, I'm awfully glad to be here. Well, I actually didn't mean to tell you all that. It's probably not particularly interesting as far as Scientology is concerned. But it's interesting as far as Australia is concerned because I feel this is one of the... the country perhaps with the greatest and brightest future on the face of Earth today.