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Effective "wake-up phrases" to say to Scn'ists

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
I'm curious to know what this means. Can someone who has studied Scientolegese please explain?

"Unflat Doubt on Scn?"

A (charged) process is supposed to be one until it no longer produces change, in other words until it is "flat."

The comment means (I assume) that the person has unresolved doubts on Scn. The assumption (I assume) is that one continues to play around with the doubts until one resolves them by realizing that one should leave Scn one way or another. It's not a perfect analogy.

Paul
 

Lesolee (Sith Lord)

Patron Meritorious
"Unflat Doubt on Scn?"

A (charged) process is supposed to be one until it no longer produces change, in other words until it is "flat."

The comment means (I assume) that the person has unresolved doubts on Scn. The assumption (I assume) is that one continues to play around with the doubts until one resolves them by realizing that one should leave Scn one way or another. It's not a perfect analogy.

Paul
Paul, you've gone squirrel. :melodramatic:

We stopped running processes "flat" about 30 years ago. You know very well you have to run a charged process to EP, namely F/N, cog, VGIs. If you were running "Recall a time you Failed to Help" to EP you would no longer have charge on "Failing to Help" (on that flow). By analogy "Recall a time you had doubts about scientology" would EP with you no longer being bothered by doubts about scientology; they would as-is.

I have to conclude that "Unflat doubts on Scientology" is actually "Black Ex-Scientology" trying to get people back in to scientology covertly. :duh:
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Paul, you've gone squirrel. :melodramatic:

We stopped running processes "flat" about 30 years ago. You know very well you have to run a charged process to EP, namely F/N, cog, VGIs.

Oh sorry. I forgot that silly "Scn EP" bullshit. I believe in running the charge out of stuff, and fuck the cogs. Seems like a Hubbard arbitrary to me. But I agree that is what the usual HCOBs say the EP of all lower grades processes are supposed to be.

Paul
 

SchwimmelPuckel

Genuine Meatball
So, in other words, although it means nothing to me, that phrase does make sense to Scientologists ?
Well, it would require the scientologist to risk thinking unholy thoughts that was never recommended by Hubbard...

Embarking on detailed explanation:
Everything that a covert hypnotist tells his victim is true.
This is a 'datum', or a piece of information, about a covert hypnotist.. Says that everything he tells you is true.. If you're a victim.. Being hypnotized by him, that is.. You'll think he tells you pure thuthful gospel and profound wisdom.. That's an essential part of the hypnotism. It's the REASON that he hypnotizes you.. To make you believe it's all truth. So that he can tell you all kinds of crap..

Now, a Scientologist don't know any corvert hypnotists.. A scientologist is damned sure about that!

But a Scientologist does know someone who tells him pure thuthful gospel and profound wisdom..

This is where a daring and unholy thought might occur to him!

:yes:
 

freethinker

Sponsor
Standard tech, when the pc EP's you send him to the reg. That's what an EP is, time for your next package.
Oh sorry. I forgot that silly "Scn EP" bullshit. I believe in running the charge out of stuff, and fuck the cogs. Seems like a Hubbard arbitrary to me. But I agree that is what the usual HCOBs say the EP of all lower grades processes are supposed to be.

Paul
 
Hypnotism commands.

Hypnotist= Ron Hubbard: If it's true for me it is true for you.

Alternative wording. If I say it is true, it is true.
You can only trust what I say to be the truth.
Just keep your attention on these two cans
and answer the questions.


What others say will not be true.

You will do what I tell you to do.
You will not do what I tell you not to do.
You are going deeper now, just keep your
attention on the emeter, tell me what you are thinking
about.

You will believe what I say.
You will believe what I tell you to believe.

I can control your mind.
You are not able to control your mind.

You will see something and talk about it
you will feel as though this is solving your problems.

You will allow me to control your mind.
You will do what I tell you to do.

You are aware that I have controlled your mind
you feel good now

you will wake up and tell people how good you feel
you will not notice that you have been hynotised
you will report back to have your mind controlled by me
this is true for me. What is true for me is true for you
when something is true for you it is true for you
and it is true for you that you need me to control
your mind


How do you break that spell?
 

hdblue

New Member
Hypnotism commands.

Hypnotist= Ron Hubbard: If it's true for me it is true for you.

Alternative wording. If I say it is true, it is true.
You can only trust what I say to be the truth.
Just keep your attention on these two cans
and answer the questions.


What others say will not be true.

You will do what I tell you to do.
You will not do what I tell you not to do.
You are going deeper now, just keep your
attention on the emeter, tell me what you are thinking
about.

You will believe what I say.
You will believe what I tell you to believe.

I can control your mind.
You are not able to control your mind.

You will see something and talk about it
you will feel as though this is solving your problems.

You will allow me to control your mind.
You will do what I tell you to do.

You are aware that I have controlled your mind
you feel good now

you will wake up and tell people how good you feel
you will not notice that you have been hynotised
you will report back to have your mind controlled by me
this is true for me. What is true for me is true for you
when something is true for you it is true for you
and it is true for you that you need me to control
your mind


How do you break that spell?

Hi,

Thanks very much for this comment. It make me thinking about for my project


Tks again and pls keep posting.
 
Hi,

Thanks very much for this comment. It make me thinking about for my project


Tks again and pls keep posting.

OK, :) here some wake up phrases.

Scientology perverts the course of justice in sexual abuse crimes!

Jan Eastgate has been arrested for covering up child sexual abuse!

What has scientology told you to lie about!

EDIT: ADDITION I looked back ay my prior post which was written as a "script" of sorts
but now i see separate wake up phrases to use.:

What is true for you is true: But ONLY if Ron lets you believe it.

What is true for RON is true for you. Start really thinking for yourself.
 
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rosros

Patron
What about a "look it up (in your dictionary)" series of "wake-up phrases" to be used on stickers or signs?

CULT: LOOK IT UP!
 

Infinite

Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
One effective "wake-up" phrase might be: "You're under arrest".

Actually, now that I think about it, the phrase will probably confirm for the Scilon that wog justice really is inept and that the foolish police officer just doesn't understand the pressing need to clear the planet and how there will inevitably be some collateral damage for the "greater good".
 
One effective "wake-up" phrase might be: "You're under arrest".

Actually, now that I think about it, the phrase will probably confirm for the Scilon that wog justice really is inept and that the foolish police officer just doesn't understand the pressing need to clear the planet and how there will inevitably be some collateral damage for the "greater good".

And now that I think about it......the obvious phrase right now is just:


Jan Eastgate is under arrest for protecting a scientology paedophile.
LOUD, LOUD, LOUD.
 

GoNuclear

Gold Meritorious Patron
Here's a few ... remember, they have to be real short for signs. An effective sign needs to be long on image and short on verbage.

RECALL A TIME WHEN YOU HAD MONEY

RECALL A TIME WHEN YOU HAD FUN

RECALL A TIME WHEN YOU WERE FREE

RECALL A TIME WHEN YOUR WEEKENDS WERE YOURS

RECALL A TIME WHEN YOU COULD PAY YOUR BILLS

DON'T WORRY ... THE EP YOU ARE AFTER IS ONLY ANOTHER 10 EXPENSIVES AWAY

IT'S THE MONEY, STUPID

DON'T WORRY, BE SP

Oh yeah?? Shatter THIS supression!

Of course, if you want to cram more onto a sign:

Did you hear about the Scientologist who blew?
HE NEEDED THE MONEY!

WOGS HAVE MORE FUN

SP'S HAVE MORE FUN

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SCIENTOLOGY WAS FUN?

Enuf for now.

Pete
 
Since many of them will be ineffective anyway, why not just stick with:

WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID C**T!

Or has that already been suggested?

No, sorry, I didn't really mean it, I'm jus say'n.
 

ClamSource

Patron with Honors
What's the difference between Anonymous and Scientology?

Scientology is clearing your bank accounts, Anonymous is clearing your orgs.
 

Mick Wenlock

Admin Emeritus (retired)
Just bumping this interesting thread. What questions might work to force the dissonance that may get those in to look at their beliefs? How do we get the True Believer to start to doubt? Because once the doubt starts - Scientology itself will punish the person enough that they will find themselves being pushed out.
 
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