kate8024
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Hi,
So I'm new here _and_ new to Scientology. How I got here is a book-length story which I will post sometime soon once I have it edited down to the most interesting parts but long story short when I finally started reading some of Ron's books my first thought was "wow I guess I don't have to write that book after all"
I'm currently trying to figure out where I fit into this whole thing because I do believe in the basis for at least some of the Tech and can entertain the whole Thetan thing and have seen some evidence for things like BTs (though I'm sure what I see is the same phenomenon he wrote about I'm not so sure about the nature of it) but I totally flat out reject the notion that any technology can be 100% perfect and it drives me crazy that when I asked the local CoS people questions like "There are now inexpensive EEG readers which look like headsets, has anyone ever investigated using these in auditing?" I get answers like "this is a perfect science and that's not how Ron said things are done". Regardless of the validity of Ron's research at best thats like saying "Isaac Newton is dead so physics has to stay where it is because he made a perfect system"
This especially bothers me when I read in 8-08 about how black-white makes clears in no time and is this awesome new Tech and then in 8-8008 about how no one uses black-white anymore.
I also think that much of both Dianetics and Scientology was WAY oversold - had all these claims of growing back your arm when you realized your mom bumped her arm when you were in womb and flying out of your body to the center of the sun not been there initial membership may have been lower, but it would have kept people from getting disillusioned. There is some good stuff in there if you can look past all of that I think.
The CoS gives me the impression of being 'stuck' in 1950 - you should have seen how they reacted when I suggested updating Dianetics to take out the anti-gay stuff and omg-shut-up-already-about-abortion attempts. Why would being gay be an ethics violation when Thetans have no gender? Oh yeah they also say "give me your money!" but on the inverse I hear of a bunch of people leaving because DM wants to change a bunch of things and update the books which _is_ something I agree with doing, but only if its done in a progressive way and not a "lets turn this into evangelical scientology" way. And I do like how he ordered new meters which will sell for much less than $3000 but don't get why they are in a warehouse still.
Most of the independent groups seem to reject the CoS but tend to be fanatical about 100% to the letter application of the Tech which also feels 'stuck' to me.
So I've been studying on my own in the meantime and taking everything with a grain of salt, got myself a Mark V emeter from ebay for cheap (though I built a wheatstone bridge way back in high school as a science project oddly enough, but I still kinda wanted an official meter, and I do like the wooden box it gives it a nice feel and its one of the nonbroken british ones too) and I've been keeping an eye out for a group which thinks that it might be actually possible to use methods of neurology, psychotherapy, whatever, to try and better understand some of the phenomenon which does seem to be real but unexplained. I've also been thinking of building a USB wheatstone bridge (which is super easy) with software that can interpret "needle reads" (which is also super easy as I write software professionally)
And so I work...
;-)
So I'm new here _and_ new to Scientology. How I got here is a book-length story which I will post sometime soon once I have it edited down to the most interesting parts but long story short when I finally started reading some of Ron's books my first thought was "wow I guess I don't have to write that book after all"
I'm currently trying to figure out where I fit into this whole thing because I do believe in the basis for at least some of the Tech and can entertain the whole Thetan thing and have seen some evidence for things like BTs (though I'm sure what I see is the same phenomenon he wrote about I'm not so sure about the nature of it) but I totally flat out reject the notion that any technology can be 100% perfect and it drives me crazy that when I asked the local CoS people questions like "There are now inexpensive EEG readers which look like headsets, has anyone ever investigated using these in auditing?" I get answers like "this is a perfect science and that's not how Ron said things are done". Regardless of the validity of Ron's research at best thats like saying "Isaac Newton is dead so physics has to stay where it is because he made a perfect system"
This especially bothers me when I read in 8-08 about how black-white makes clears in no time and is this awesome new Tech and then in 8-8008 about how no one uses black-white anymore.
I also think that much of both Dianetics and Scientology was WAY oversold - had all these claims of growing back your arm when you realized your mom bumped her arm when you were in womb and flying out of your body to the center of the sun not been there initial membership may have been lower, but it would have kept people from getting disillusioned. There is some good stuff in there if you can look past all of that I think.
The CoS gives me the impression of being 'stuck' in 1950 - you should have seen how they reacted when I suggested updating Dianetics to take out the anti-gay stuff and omg-shut-up-already-about-abortion attempts. Why would being gay be an ethics violation when Thetans have no gender? Oh yeah they also say "give me your money!" but on the inverse I hear of a bunch of people leaving because DM wants to change a bunch of things and update the books which _is_ something I agree with doing, but only if its done in a progressive way and not a "lets turn this into evangelical scientology" way. And I do like how he ordered new meters which will sell for much less than $3000 but don't get why they are in a warehouse still.
Most of the independent groups seem to reject the CoS but tend to be fanatical about 100% to the letter application of the Tech which also feels 'stuck' to me.
So I've been studying on my own in the meantime and taking everything with a grain of salt, got myself a Mark V emeter from ebay for cheap (though I built a wheatstone bridge way back in high school as a science project oddly enough, but I still kinda wanted an official meter, and I do like the wooden box it gives it a nice feel and its one of the nonbroken british ones too) and I've been keeping an eye out for a group which thinks that it might be actually possible to use methods of neurology, psychotherapy, whatever, to try and better understand some of the phenomenon which does seem to be real but unexplained. I've also been thinking of building a USB wheatstone bridge (which is super easy) with software that can interpret "needle reads" (which is also super easy as I write software professionally)
And so I work...
;-)