Free to shine
Shiny & Free
I'm right there with ya on this.
Thankyou, I appreciate the support.
Tidying away loose ends.
I'm right there with ya on this.
A truth about the SO is that if there are shadier sides to an individual, it will have a place to flourish and grow. Many of us saw this and left. Some stayed and dived into the corruption, wallowing in it and enjoying its stench.
This may sound completely ridiculous in its simplicity, but sometimes the simplest explaination covers it.....We all had the choice, some choose the 'DARK SIDE.' It wasnt in some of us to go there....But others were ripe for it.
Correctamundo.
Dohring?
I remember the Suzette and Guy flap.
The fact that Guy wanted to marry Suzette in the first place made him the subject of a lot of unwanted attention. He and Arnie had that in common.
I knew Guy. I always liked him. I think he would have been a great person at another time in another place.
I knew Suzette pretty well and we talked a bit when I was at PAC for my clearances. I did not know Guy very well though. I don't think Suzette needed much persuasion to leave, she was not very happy with being in the SO.
Arthur, Suzette, Quentin and Dianna - had no choice from birth.
Which is why it is so bizzare that Diana actually went back.
I guess the uninspected darkside of LRH is what so many Scio's dramatize when they become Scio's and do unspeakable thing to families and family members. :crying:
Nail. Head.
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?p=277658&highlight=#277658
In the last few months, I have perfected several surefire ways to get staff off of the Int Base. I have distilled all of these actions into one complete list.
So far I have managed to get 3 people from the Int base from outside the Int Base using these methods.
BFG
In case anyone needed any more motivation to get family out, I want to add my two cents. I have been reading BFG’s postings recently and part of one of BFG’s accounts about Greg Wilhere piqued my interest. I knew Greg Wilhere and a guy by the name of Bobby Wisner. We all, (and a few others not mentioned here) got involved in DC around the same time. I got sucked in by a mutual friend who attended Villanova with “the group”.
I wish no ill will toward Greg or Bobby and I believe that the deaths of their sons, had to be very painful for them and I sympathize, oops can I do that? Yes I can. I couldn’t then, but I can now. I also know that sometimes it is difficult to keep a marriage together in Scientology or out. However, in my opinion having a marriage and the raising of children in Scientology is almost impossible.
I cared about these guys at one time, however, I know that any attempts by me to try and help them out would fall on deaf ears.
I know Bobby, (name changed to Michael) is not on staff, but he may as well be.
Good luck to all trying to get loved ones out. I wish you success.
Apparently my reporting of Darius' demise was greatly exaggerated. After reading more on the subject I am told he is ALIVE Apparently Tom Cruise nor any other Scientologists were on scene, but the doctors and paramedics were able to help.
Wait.
I audited Micheal Wisner (son).
What happened to him?
I believe that he got addicted to heroin and committed suicide.
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/gbw/gregory.html
I worked for Micheal Wisner when I first got to LA in the early 1990's. He and his wife Helen were extremely good to me when I first got there. They invited me to spend Christmas with them because they knew I had no one else.
They really were great.
I was shocked and saddened to hear about Micheal's son. I know how much Micheal believed in the Purif and Narconon. That would be an absolutely horrible thing to have to experience.
I don't know if the Helen you are referring to is his first wife or a different Helen. I lost tack of them for many years. The Helen I remember also went by the name Penny. One and the same? My Penny, so to speak, was remarried and is married to Herb Zerden and they are living in the Tampa St. Pete area last I knew. There is some stuff about Herb's business floating about the internet, other than that I don't know what they are doing.
I worked for Bobby in and out of Scn (in a normal business). I like Bobby and Penny, but I think I am liking a memory and if they are reading this, they don't like me anymore or they're not allowed to (both like and read). This may not be fair to Penny since I don't know if she is active, but I know Bobby is.