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Dulloldfart

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This is a great idea for one of them thar Paul ebooks that go on that thar Paul's Rabbit site...hint! Hint! :coolwink:

I had that thought soon after Face's articles started appearing, and got stuck in on it. Face gave his approval. I'm waiting for him to finish the series before putting the rest of the work in (a lot) and completing it.

Paul
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
.... Hello ?

Hello Toady and All Y’all.:wave:

I’m gonna put up the next Installment of Shooting Stars on Saturday or Sunday this week, barring some unforeseen event.:melodramatic:

I’ve had the gist of it all worked out since before I went on my Walkabout but, with all the goin’s on around here…the Quinton Thread and, especially, Cowboy ridin’ in…I’ve just not gotten ‘er done.

Also, over this last weekend I had some folks in from out of town that are retired members of a Professional Association that some years back I was humbled to the core with the honor and privilege to be the Director of...A bunch of folks that are as fine, straight and “real” as have ever drawn breath.

What a weirdly wondrous weekend for Ole Face here. BBQing, BSing and reminiscing with these dearest friends and stealing time to catch a go ‘round here with all my friends here.

Weirdly wondrous weekend because the juxtaposition of it all perfectly “frames” the next Installment I had fleshed out weeks before

Borrowing a phrase from Carlos Castaneda, all of most all of Us lived and share “a separate reality”. I didn’t say “special”, “higher”, “superior” or any of that “woo, woo” crap. We just happened to give our Hearts, Mind and Body to a singular group, cause and calling with “ultrahigh ideals, ultrahigh expectancy of competence and supreme sense of duty”…as did my dearest friends.

Only difference is, for Us, “It” was all a lie.

Next up,

Shooting Stars, Part Nineteen

Fillin’ In Some Gaps, part 2

"The Liars Club"

Face:)
 
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afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
Shooting Stars, Part Nineteen

“The trust of the innocent is the liar's most useful tool.” Stephan King


Well Folks, I said I’d have the next Installment up last weekend, barring any unforeseen circumstance and, sure enough, there were some unforeseen circumstances. Nothing bad…just had a couple of friends that needed some help here and there and between that and getting distracted with what’s been buzzin’ on the Board, I just didn’t get ‘er done.:melodramatic:

Problem is, I’m finding this Installment to be the hardest one for me to find the right words and way to say just what I want to say. On top of that, I’m takin’ off tomorrow morning for a week or so for a walkabout with my Lady Friend…”Romantic Get Away Vacation” I think is the term she's using.:blush:

I’ve got the first third or so of the next Installment pretty much done to my satisfaction but the remainder—the “meat and potatoes”— still needs work before I’m comfortable Posting it. So, I’m gonna Post that first third now and the rest will have to wait for probably 3 weeks. I’ll be checking in here and there as time and opportunity presents itself. :coolwink:

Be seein’ all Y’all around the Rodeo.:happydance:


Shooting Stars, Part Nineteen

Fillin’ In Some Gaps, part 2

"The Liars Club"


I am a fake.

I am a fraud.

I am a liar.

I fronted, shilled and conned for El Ron.

The fact that I saw others do all that, too is of no justification or absolution for what I did to others by leave of my deceitful “Ron Story’s”, unwarranted and untrue assurances to the unsuspecting of Hisself’s “Awesomeness” and utter failure for over a decade to “Man Up” to the Cognitive Dissonance that festered in and ate away my Heart for over a Decade.

As to just why the F’n Hell I did that I still can’t answer to my Satisfaction, Resolution and Peace. I wish I could—not so much because I am tortured by the “Demons” of my past…they pretty much died out along the way because I stopped feeding them by giving the “fruits” of my “harvest” to “Better Angels”...I wish I could because it may help others that carry the same “Scar” or “Stain” on their Heart as I.

And, more so than all of that, there are all the Folks…good, decent, honest, trusting, trying, willing, hope-filled…that I lied to, spun embellished yarns to and “Wowie Zowied” as an “OT, Uber Exec, Flag Officer that was one of the “CommodeDoor’s Personal Staff” who worked personally for “The Old Man”.

Through my direct and indirect actions, as a result of my words and from my deeds hundreds of people joined the SO, Org Staff and even Mission Staffs; Tens upon tens upon tens of Millions of Dollars (60’s, 70’s $) of money was flimflam finagled, hustled and harangued no matter what it took to get it, regardless whether or not they could afford it.

I was the ultimate “Authority Tag”, “Tell a Story” Closer. The sad thing was I honestly, at that time, thought I was "ultimately" doing the “Right” thing, the “Best” thing for all those folks. God have mercy on me.

Why would I do such a thing? Like I said, I still don’t completely know.

I grew up Westerner “Country”—poor but not destitute—with Parents that were verbally, emotionally and physically abusive, violent Fundamentalist, Born Again, Speaking in Tongues, Holy Roller, Charismatic Christians. Education, Student Government, Athletics, Speech & Debate, Madrigal Choir, reading late into the night, working my ass off at a Grocery Store/Meat Market culminating with moving far away 1 week after High School Graduation to go to College (which I paid for with a Scholarship, Grant in Aid and part time jobs during the School Year and 2 full time jobs during the Summer) was my way out. I wanted to see, experience and know the World, Places and People. The last thing I wanted was Religion, Fanaticism and Heartlessness.

Unfortunately, I was kinda like the guy from the old ‘50’s TV show, “I led 3 Lives”. One of my lives—my “public” life—was as the quintessential, Crew Cut “Joe College” of the mid-latter 60’s; the 2nd life—which was shared with a small group of folks that kept my “secret” safe—was as a Folk, Blues, Hard Rock, What-the-F-ever, Poetry and Women luvin’ “Head”.

My third life was very personal and private and seldom shared with another. It was the “Metaphysics/Occult stuff” I’d been reading secretly about since I was 11 or 12…The stuff that “Spoke” to me about the “Weird”, “Strange” and “Different” Thoughts, Ideation and “Phenomena” that I had learned the hard way to rarely…and then only sparingly, cautiously…discuss with others.

College near a big, cosmopolitan city in the mid-latter ‘60’s was a cornucopia of new, fascinating and stimulating experiences, places and people for me. Over time, my world settled into a balancing act of three intersecting “Life Spheres”; Collegiate Life—Academics, Speech & Debate, Athletics, Choir, Work; Animal House Life—Parties, Chasin’ Women, Motorcycles, Chasin’ Women, Smokin’ Dope, Chasin’ Women, Folk/Rock/Blues Concerts, Chasin’ more Women; Mystical Quest Life—“Networking” my way into attending private Séances, Spiritualism Meetings and Dialogues, Channeling and Automatic Writing Sessions, Philosophy, Metaphysics and Parapsychology Discussion Forums, etc., etc.

It was the concourse of my third life that, eventually, ushered me into an Org and to pick up the cans, just to see and experience what “It” was about.:confused2:

More in a few weeks or so...

Peace.
:yes:

Face
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ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
Awesomeness raining down on us.

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No one else writes like that and
captures what it all was. Simply
a very moving narrative!


We can't wait three weeks! :no:

But have a great time nonetheless. :thumbsup:

ILove2Lurk
 
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Gib

Crusader
Hello Toady and All Y’all.:wave:

I’m gonna put up the next Installment of Shooting Stars on Saturday or Sunday this week, barring some unforeseen event.:melodramatic:

I’ve had the gist of it all worked out since before I went on my Walkabout but, with all the goin’s on around here…the Quinton Thread and, especially, Cowboy ridin’ in…I’ve just not gotten ‘er done.

Also, over this last weekend I had some folks in from out of town that are retired members of a Professional Association that some years back I was humbled to the core with the honor and privilege to be the Director of...A bunch of folks that are as fine, straight and “real” as have ever drawn breath.

What a weirdly wondrous weekend for Ole Face here. BBQing, BSing and reminiscing with these dearest friends and stealing time to catch a go ‘round here with all my friends here.

Weirdly wondrous weekend because the juxtaposition of it all perfectly “frames” the next Installment I had fleshed out weeks before

Borrowing a phrase from Carlos Castaneda, all of most all of Us lived and share “a separate reality”. I didn’t say “special”, “higher”, “superior” or any of that “woo, woo” crap. We just happened to give our Hearts, Mind and Body to a singular group, cause and calling with “ultrahigh ideals, ultrahigh expectancy of competence and supreme sense of duty”…as did my dearest friends.

Only difference is, for Us, “It” was all a lie.

Next up,

Shooting Stars, Part Nineteen

Fillin’ In Some Gaps, part 2

"The Liars Club"

Face:)

Hey Face, before you start your next installment, maybe if you know, you can answer my question here. In reading Lana's post on Martys Place, she got into the Int Base in 1993, and she explains here 4 flows. Now in reading her post and combining data in all the stuff I have read here and elsewhere like friendsoflrh, scientology-cult, ex scientology, caliwog, gere isene, truth rundown, etc, etc.

What I have pieced together, in reading now in present time Lana's post on Marty's place, is that david Mis, Dm, however you spell his name, is a direct product of LRH. In that I mean he was a young man working for LRH, and,

one learns by duplicating,

so did the DM, because he saw LRH in the years he saw him and worked for him,

is DM just duplicating LRH?

In your opinion, just a yes or no answer would be good.
 

Gib

Crusader
Hey Face, before you start your next installment, maybe if you know, you can answer my question here. In reading Lana's post on Martys Place, she got into the Int Base in 1993, and she explains here 4 flows. Now in reading her post and combining data in all the stuff I have read here and elsewhere like friendsoflrh, scientology-cult, ex scientology, caliwog, gere isene, truth rundown, etc, etc.

What I have pieced together, in reading now in present time Lana's post on Marty's place, is that david Mis, Dm, however you spell his name, is a direct product of LRH. In that I mean he was a young man working for LRH, and,

one learns by duplicating,

so did the DM, because he saw LRH in the years he saw him and worked for him,

is DM just duplicating LRH?

In your opinion, just a yes or no answer would be good.

forgot to post the post, here it is:

Lana M. | August 9, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Reply
Marty,

Thanks for this. I have witnessed and been part of what you detail in this post, on every flow.

Flow One: I have been targeted personally by DM, and by those under his orders. I arrived at the Int base in 1993 as an outspoken, enthusiastic, stable and responsible individual. I was promoted to RTC in January 1994 and after being removed from many different posts, for reasons that I cannot fathom, understand or comprehend, and finally receiving a justice action (Committee of Evidence) in 1999 that found me “psychotic”, “dishonest”, “unproductive” and more savory descriptions (dictated verbatum by COB), I ended up in the kitchens (Galley). When I was then offloaded from the base 4 years later, again for reasons that made absolutely no sense, I was given a whole bunch more indications. I left that place as an introverted, cowed, confused individual. I had been nullified.

Flow Two: I witnessed, for 13 years, DM personally work to nullify everyone around him. I saw him work over the Int management executives, I saw him target individual staff members in Gold, CMO Gold, CMO Int or in RTC. I watched as he would run the entire base down, at base briefings that were nothing but constant verbage about how suppressive everyone is, how unproductive and criminal everyone is, etc.

Flow Three: I saw the contagion of aberration then taken up by others, and run onto others. I did my share of it myself — however there were some attack dogs who just savored the stalk, the pounce and then the killing of individual staff members. In the late 90′s, at the orders of DM, the first of the group confrontations started in RTC and then were mirrored elsewhere on the base. I watched as the RTC staff and executives, urged on by Greg Wilhere and Sue Wilhere, personally attacked different staff members for alleged crimes — pulling them out and then flooding them with demands for confessions of their horrendous crimes — and continuing till those staff were reduced to nothing but a puddle on the floor. In one case, the attack went on for over 2 hours — with 20+ staff against 1 person. This all came to a head when the entire org were held captive in the RTC conference room for almost 10 hours in a gruesome group confessional that was more like a pack of wolves eating themselves. These group confessions were then exported to the base and were a regular occurrence in Gold and CMO Int/Executive Strata.

Flow Zero: And probably worse of all, I have experienced myself doing it to myself — as a result of the Flows above. There comes a point, when the torture and nullification has been continued for such a long period, that one starts to believe that it really is you that is causing the problem or upset — and what starts is an internalization and “mind fuck” to try and sort yourself out with Ethics or Amends or something. One makes oneself crazy — and you come to believe you are. I really did believe, at the end of the 90′s, that I could not think straight, that I was unable to work with others or get things done, and that I was truly really screwed up. I actually had come to believe I was suppressive.

It takes a number of years to pull yourself out of the muck — and that is really why most of us have described a “decompression” period of 3 – 4 years or so. It is nasty stuff.

And this is why it is so important that any of you out there, who have experienced the above (in whatever degree), get yourself exterior to the situation, get all the facts, and ideally, get yourself into a session to get the charge off, the wrong items found and handled, and your rudiments back in.

Aaaaahhh…. the sunshine comes out, and you realize it was not you at all.
 
Re: Shooting Stars, Part Nineteen

“The trust of the innocent is the liar's most useful tool.” Stephan King


Well Folks, I said I’d have the next Installment up last weekend, barring any unforeseen circumstance and, sure enough, there were some unforeseen circumstances. Nothing bad…just had a couple of friends that needed some help here and there and between that and getting distracted with what’s been buzzin’ on the Board, I just didn’t get ‘er done.:melodramatic: ...

Peace.
:yes:

Face
:)


Face, first: thanks for posting.

Second: don't worry about installments. The punters love 'em and keep coming back for more. :thumbsup:

Third: don't beat yourself up. That's what you have friends for. :coolwink:

Fourth: keep in mind, it's usually the bad stuff we learn the most from. Especially our own screw-ups. They help to remind us of the need for humility. :angel:


Mark A. Baker
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
Hey Face, before you start your next installment, maybe if you know, you can answer my question here. In reading Lana's post on Martys Place, she got into the Int Base in 1993, and she explains here 4 flows. Now in reading her post and combining data in all the stuff I have read here and elsewhere like friendsoflrh, scientology-cult, ex scientology, caliwog, gere isene, truth rundown, etc, etc.

What I have pieced together, in reading now in present time Lana's post on Marty's place, is that david Mis, Dm, however you spell his name, is a direct product of LRH. In that I mean he was a young man working for LRH, and,

one learns by duplicating,

so did the DM, because he saw LRH in the years he saw him and worked for him,

is DM just duplicating LRH?

In your opinion, just a yes or no answer would be good.

Gib,

I'm leaving on Vacation in 2 hours and don't have the time to read stuff from Marty's Board.

Along with El Ron I also face to Face interacted with DM, Marty and Rinder.

The answer to your question to me re: DM is, "Yes and No."

If you have interest, you may do a search of my ESMB Posts re: DM. Search DM, Da Monster and Miscavaige.

If, after reading those posts, you wish a further explanation of my "Yes and No" answer it will have to wait a few weeks.


Face:)
 

Gib

Crusader
Gib,

I'm leaving on Vacation in 2 hours and don't have the time to read stuff from Marty's Board.

Along with El Ron I also face to Face interacted with DM, Marty and Rinder.

The answer to your question to me re: DM is, "Yes and No."

If you have interest, you may do a search of my ESMB Posts re: DM. Search DM, Da Monster and Miscavaige.

If, after reading those posts, you wish a further explanation of my "Yes and No" answer it will have to wait a few weeks.


Face:)

Alright. Thanks for getting back to me. Will do what you say. Have a good one, vacation that is.
 

Operating DB

Truman Show Dropout
Oh come on now you all!

Let me clue you in on the facts of the matter right from www.ronthemusicmaker.org



So, now you know that the Apollo Stars were a BIG BAND and LRH was a master. I've bolded the relevant portions so you don't miss them!

Also another fact I learned while reading the back cover of the Power of Source album was that good old hisself was a professional singer back in the day (which day that was I'm not quite sure, perhaps it was a late evening?)

Wow o Wow

I must say that the cover art photo is amazingly BAD. How he ever thought that was good is beyond me. I mean seriously - a beach towel? unevenly draped over the table and equipment setup on TV trays? They all look so VVGI's don't they? That guy on the right has that, "Oh shit, I hope I don't get shot from guns" look to him

Apollo+Cover+Front.jpg

Inevitably indeed!

I can't resist commenting on this god-awful album "art". Everyone looks miserable, exhausted or at least bored. The lighting is a boring on-camera flash, like someone just popped in with their Instamatic Kodak camera from the 60's with flash cube attached. It looks like the film was developed and printed by a 15 year old developing his first roll of film, perhaps using Ron's state of the art tech. The set looks very amateurish, like a high school jazz band rehearsing in some kids garage. Hubbard looks like he recently had a stroke. This is how my father looked after he had his stroke.

I'm being critical. Time for me to write up LRH's O/W's.....
 
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Gottabrain

Guest
...The set looks very amateurish, like a high school jazz band rehearsing in some kids garage. Hubbard looks like he recently had a stroke. This is how my father looked after he had his stroke.

What a terrible photo. They all look like they are thinking, "Oh shit. He's going to make us re-do that 2 minute section AGAIN...shit, we're all going to end up sleeping in this room overnight..." :unsure:

It seems to me that the same crease is on Hubbard's left arm twice. His arm is too short and his hand in the wrong place. In a normal photograph, at that distance, the arm would be quite large. So was this some sort of weird touch up? Could it be that his pic was sort of pasted in and he wasn't even there at all?
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
I'm hopin' to have the next part of The Liars Club up by the end of this week. :yes:

I appreciate Y'all is still interested in what I've got to say. :coolwink:

Twas a long time ago, in a mindset far, far away...:biggrin:

Peace. :coolwink:

Face:)
 
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