Many of us discussed the thread where this happened. Got to be at least a year ago if not longer. I don't have the thread or the blog post tagged anymore. I don't wish to dig over it too much. But some young guy posted on the blog and was not hostile in any way, but was honest and said he didn't believe in the tech. Marty asked him to refute something in Dianetics
Okay - here is some refute - if Dianetics worked - then why is Miscavige a raving lunatic? Why is Scientology a mess? It is a cult and it is crazy like Hubbard! Why did Hubbard go insane hiding in a trailer in California hiding from the law? Why does one get baited with Dianetics and then get "routed" on to the BRIDGE to total nowhere? A religion that boasts about freedom but NO ONE in the religion can say anything critical of the leader, the founder or the religion.
You start with Dianetics and end up auditing off body theetans...you spend $$$,$$$ on your Bridge to find out at the top that you were auditing off your BT's past lives?
It is so easy to refute - step out of the cult and look lurkers...it is all there very easy to see the truth about this crazy and insane cult!
Scientology sucks! It does not work and I DO have evil intentions to destroy the cult by all legal means! Tell everyone I know to go on the internet and do their own research!! THAT works better than anything - speak out and tell everyone you know!
I can't answer this for you. I had trouble doing away with Scientology because I did so well with Dianetics initially. Had I only experienced Dianetics after being in the Church for some time and experienced the traumatic lifestyle staff members live, I might have not had those initial "gains" and would have done away with it far quicker.
Marty's answer to the young man was "you obviously haven't heard the clearing lectures". He responded to Marty that he was willing to listen to them and Marty then told him not to bother and with some of his gang, they chewed up the guy a bit more. Sad, sick and psychopathic behavior.
Steve of course has demonstrated ignorance. Such as his statements
that the FZ is responsible for the bad situations of CO$ members in
the church. Which he has recanted.
That you say M&M is responsible for his ignorance demonstrates you are at least as stupid as Steve.
CO$ with its money and other resources can't stop their exposure on the net or block info.
You think M&M can do more?
Or want to?
Please explain yourself.
I've not heard Steve say that the FZ is responsible for the bad situation in the Church, where did you get this from? I do know that Steve has shown public shock when he discovered the AAC and how successful it was and seems to have cognitive dissonance; he doesn't believe Mayo was an SP. There are threads on this board to attest to this. Marty has LIED by promoting himself as the first truly Independent Scientology movement.
Your the one who needs to do the explaining.
Terril is very good at asking for DOX, but very poor at providing them. He's never given any statistics to back-up the growth of the FZ. Course completions, auditing hours. The only growth I see is the amount of time Marty spends updating his blog, the growth in internal conflicts and the growth in cognitive dissonance which causes the former.
Hey, I'm not the one attempting to inject bald statements of "fact" into the converstation without being prepared to back them up. Accordingly, NO DOX = BOLLOCKS, and I can safely put your assertion down to yet another acceptable truth. Carry on.
Terril damands DOX but doesn't give. Don't expect much from him. Most people have given up.