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Sindy

Crusader
You are a strong person of great integrity, intelligence and rare insight. You have helped me tremendously. I think you're amazing. Thank you. :love11:
 

Purple Rain

Crusader
Veda, as I said on the other thread, I do have a very soft spot for you and I do think you are more valuable as a poster than just for your knowledge of Scientology, as I also said on the other thread, but that also your personality is part of what makes ESMB the place that I love.

I have always thought that people care about you more than you seem to think and I hope this thread will help you to see that.

I wish you only the best in your real life struggles.

Take care of yourself.
 

Dean Blair

Silver Meritorious Patron
Well here we go....once again Veda gets apologies and yet he never, ever apologizes himself.

I guess that's because he's the grrrrrreat Veda who never does any wrong.

He never apologized to TG1 for posting a very snide and hurtful remark to her about six months ago. He never apologized to Lurker 5 for that pre-emptive attack and false accusation a week or so ago. There are other examples of course.

It doesn't matter. He won't take responsibility. Again, he's never wrong. Always above reproach. In fact he's always the victim even when he strikes first. Makes me sick.

Well fuck that. I'm not joining in on this capitulation thread.

Carry on....

Hey guys I love you all and it breaks my heart to see such discord occurring here. I love TGIF, Lurker 5, Lonestar, and all the rest. We, each of us, all have different personalities and knowledge. Each of us has a different way in which we communicate or joke around. It's all good. I and everyone here learns from everyone posting at ESMB. Even OSA makes for some lulz on occasion. :biglove:

Think how boring it would be if this blog was only one persons voice and opinion. :sleepy:

Let us continue to do what we have been doing effectively for so many years.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
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Having Veda aboard ESMB is like having anti-virus software running 24/7.

Ever notice how when he's around nobody ever says DOX or STFU? LOL
 

Boomima

Patron with Honors
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Having Veda aboard ESMB is like having anti-virus software running 24/7.

Ever notice how when he's around nobody ever says DOX or STFU? LOL

I have always loved that Veda does not just post docs - he takes the time to provide context and analysis as well. His posts are often followed up by people who provide historical information and personal experience.
Take care of yourself, Veda...
 

dchoiceisalwaysrs

Gold Meritorious Patron
I often think 'always' and 'never' are adverbs which are absolutely packed with potential to explode.

So I never use them.

love you always, Veda


And glad to hear you say a bit about what is stressing you lately. I was concerned. I wish you all the best.
 
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lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
I have always loved that Veda does not just post docs - he takes the time to provide context and analysis as well. His posts are often followed up by people who provide historical information and personal experience.
Take care of yourself, Veda...

This is also what I appreciate in reading his posts
I know he takes so much time to write his posts and references for people to get the most accurate information
and the factual truth instead of an acceptable truth.
This has been of great help for me in recovering like many others

You get all my appreciation Veda
you would have made a great pleader for the defense.
You stand tall - alone. :wink2:

Thank's for all the time and effort you put here
so it can be usefull to many.

:)
 

Magoo

Gold Meritorious Patron
Not true. I have apologized many times. It's all here, on the record, for those curious and willing to do a search using the find word apologize for my posts.

Please call off your war on me for little while at least.

I'm under a lot of IRL stress right now. It hasn't been easy. Any peace I can find is appreciated. :)

I'd like to think that I'm more than a source of docs, that my analyses also are helpful, and that, within me, there might even be a small amount of humanity that also helps others.

Thanks Emma for starting this thread. You didn't have to, and it was an act of pure kindness.

And to Emma, and to the others and their kind words, I love you too.

I hope my time here has helped.

That's all I wanted to do in the first place.

Be well, everyone. :heartflower:


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Thank you, Emma, for this kind thread.

Veda....I won't pretend I know you as I do not. I rarely read threads, so I've missed most of
your wisdom and your getting pounded. I've had my own struggles to fend through. I will say,
in going through those struggles, I've learned some of THE best lessons of my life. I found what I
was looking for in all those 30 years "in" that I never found there. So sometimes as I can hear you have,
staying despite being pounded CAN bring about life changing things.

So I hope, for you this happens, too.
And :thankyou: for helping so many people as you have!

Stay strong, get plenty of sleep and make sure to take time...
no matter what....to smell the roses (or whatever you enjoy). :flowers2:

:bighug:

 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation



Love you Veda.

I hope whatever is happening (stress wise) IRL resolves soon because I know it can really alter perspective and the way you feel when that stuff is hanging around.



:blowkiss:
 

JustSheila

Crusader
Heya Veda,

You know I appreciate you. :biglove:

I consider you an IRL friend - because you've helped me IRL with your intellect, your caring, your insight - as well as your sincerity.

I'm sorry to hear you're having difficulties - I sort of knew something was up, there was a bit of pain that came through in your posts recently (hard as you tried to carry on and hide it.)

You're a good person, through and through, Veda, but you are also a perfectionist and one thing I know about perfectionists, is they are incredibly demanding of themselves. Try going easier on yourself, do something fun and meaningless, have a laugh at something stupid, write a bad poem or something. :biggrin:

You don't have to carry the world on your shoulders and deal with everything alone. That's what friendship is about. I'm here if you want to chat.

:heartflower:

Sheila
 

BardoThodol

Silver Meritorious Patron
I'm under a lot of IRL stress right now. It hasn't been easy. Any peace I can find is appreciated. :)

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Truly sorry to hear about the real life stress.

Though sometimes too much stress can tear us apart, sometimes stress embraced can make us grow, make us stronger.

Hopefully, whatever you're experiencing is the later not the former.
 

BardoThodol

Silver Meritorious Patron
Thanks Emma for starting this thread. You didn't have to, and it was an act of pure kindness.

And to Emma, and to the others and their kind words, I love you too.

I hope my time here has helped.

That's all I wanted to do in the first place.

Be well, everyone. :heartflower:

One thing I've noticed about some anti-cultists is a severity of feeling. "Love-bombing" is bad. Love is therefore something that must be strictly monitored. Austerity of feeling becomes a means of self protection. Any proclamations of "love" or "appreciation" set alarms clamoring.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

But, there is no shame in loving or being loved, No shame in appreciating or being appreciated. No shame in valuing others or being valued.

The shame is in the lie, the deception, the manipulation.

When we cease to care for others, we deceive ourselves just as much.

It is in our nature to care, to love, to appreciate and value. Doing such gives our life meaning, makes us fuller, more complete.
 

BardoThodol

Silver Meritorious Patron
Hopefully, this thread can bring some healing.

Alanzo had a chance to do such, but that proved unsuccessful.

Wounds always cause scar tissue. If we don't exercise the area properly, the scar tissue will limit our ability to function. We lose freedom of movement.

Maybe this applies to our minds and souls as well.

The scar of wounded pride can be more limiting than that of any other.
 

JustSheila

Crusader
One thing I've noticed about some anti-cultists is a severity of feeling. "Love-bombing" is bad. Love is therefore something that must be strictly monitored. Austerity of feeling becomes a means of self protection. Any proclamations of "love" or "appreciation" set alarms clamoring.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

But, there is no shame in loving or being loved, No shame in appreciating or being appreciated. No shame in valuing others or being valued.

The shame is in the lie, the deception, the manipulation.

When we cease to care for others, we deceive ourselves just as much.

It is in our nature to care, to love, to appreciate and value. Doing such gives our life meaning, makes us fuller, more complete.

Every now and then you write something that just knocks me out.

Nice insight, Bardo. Thanks for this.
 

BardoThodol

Silver Meritorious Patron
Well here we go....once again Veda gets apologies and yet he never, ever apologizes himself.

I guess that's because he's the grrrrrreat Veda who never does any wrong.

He never apologized to TG1 for posting a very snide and hurtful remark to her about six months ago. He never apologized to Lurker 5 for that pre-emptive attack and false accusation a week or so ago. There are other examples of course.

It doesn't matter. He won't take responsibility. Again, he's never wrong. Always above reproach. In fact he's always the victim even when he strikes first. Makes me sick.

Well fuck that. I'm not joining in on this capitulation thread.

Carry on....

We're all so full of faults that finding them is easy.

I used to be filled with this violent rage that I used to go looking for fights so I could unleash that rage on some mother-fucking asshole who deserves to get fucked up.

And I was very skilled at unleashing that rage.

But, the rage never subsided.

It only grew.

Until I learned that I also was a mother-fucking asshole who deserved...

to be appreciated.

Appreciated for things held deep inside that I was terrified of feeling..

and showing to others...

least I seem weak.

Attacking an enemy's weakness is easy.

Turning an enemy into a friend is not so easy.

But, in the end, it is our ability to be a friend that makes us stronger, not our ability to be an enemy.
 
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