Some Really Good Advice in Infographic Form

[Udarnik]

 

[Udarnik]

The one topic they forgot?

Vibration.

I won an undergraduate award once for Infrared Spectroscopy. I've conducted Raman Spectroscopy as a professional scientist. I know my fucking vibrational energy physics (that is a HIGHLY simplified page - if you want the real deal, read this book) inside and out.

Vibration - an awful lot of people use that word. It doesn't mean what they think it means.

 

[Gib]

The one topic they forgot?

Vibration.

I won an undergraduate award once for Infrared Spectroscopy. I've conducted Raman Spectroscopy as a professional scientist. I know my fucking vibrational energy physics (that is a HIGHLY simplified page - if you want the real deal, read this book) inside and out.

Vibration - an awful lot of people use that word. It doesn't mean what they think it means.

what does it really mean?

 

[La La Lou Lou]

You forgot to mention the scientifically undeniable memory of water.

Because every snow flake is different it is a well known fact understood by every quantum sociologist that a millionth part of any substance dissolved in water can cure something unspecific and vague. It's also well known that drug companies, (out only to make profits) are covering up this knowledge which is possessed by socially beneficial companies (that are out only to make a loss) by producing homeopathetic cures.

 

[WildKat]

"Hostility to criticism"
Gee where have we seen that? LOL

 

[Udarnik]

what does it really mean?

That is both a simple and a complex question.

First, for the simple: it means something is moving back and forth around a central point or anchor, and can be basically described by the mathematics here.

For the complex: when people use this term esoterically, they generally mean quantum vibration. But they mix it up with the vibration we are more familiar with - mechanical vibration, especially sound. We speak of being "in tune" with someone when we are clicking with them. That is perfectly fine as a metaphor. But our minds are not vibrating in any meaningful sense other than the pulse of blood carrying oxygen to our neurons.

The quantum world is quite different form the world we perceive, despite the fact that the world we perceive is made up of particles that exist in the quantum domain. Because all those quantum effects are in random directions, and they cancel each other out as you scale up your statistical mechanics. For example, it is quite possible that a single electron in an oxygen atom in your lung could remain "attached" to that atom and briefly appear somewhere near Mars, only to come back near the oxygen nucleus in your lung a moment later. Mind you, that would be exceedingly unlikely, but it's still allowed under the rules of Quantum Mechanics as we currently understand them.

That's quite weird and wonderful, and one of the things that got me interested in Quantum Mechanics when I first encountered Pauling and Wilson's book back in high school.

But all the electrons in your body won't do that at the same time, leaving you to blow apart in a gooey residue of positive charge. While still allowed under the rules of QM, the probability of that happening is now in the realm of that plied by Zaphod Beeblebrox in the Heart of Gold. Because each atom in you is doing its thing independently.

But then people who are not technically proficient, the kind of people SOT described as having a kindergarten level of understanding (too true), are claiming just that when they point at some improbable woo doctrine and then justify it with "because, quantum!"

So now we get to vibration. There is vibration on the quantum level. You can think of the bonds between atoms as tiny springs in certain respects. When those springs absorb light of the proper energy, they start to bounce back and forth like a spring with a weight on each end and can be described with math very similar to the kind you encountered as an undergrad in your Physics and Differential Equations classes if you were a techie like me. Light of higher energy (visible, UV) will cause the electrons in the bonds to jump around and light of a lower energy (microwave) will cause the molecules to spin (rotational quanta), but infrared light is exactly the right energy to make individual molecules go "boing".

But just as all your ground-state electrons won't find Mars at the same time, all the vibrations in your body are going every which way and cancel each other out. You don't have a quantum vibrational state as a macroscopic being. You do have a mechanical fundamental vibrational frequency, but that is not what these woo-loons are talking about. If someone talks about your "vibrational level" and upon questioning doesn't know how IR light works into this (and doesn't explain why their vibrational theory seems unaffected by oh, say proximity to a friggin' campfire), they are almost certainly pulling stuff out of their posterior orifice.

I hope I didn't make your eyes glaze over, happy to say more if I was unclear.

 

[Dean Blair]

$cientology falls into nearly all of the categories you have listed here. Too bad the FDA didn't completely succeed in shutting Hubbard down when they raided the cherch in Washington DC and took the e-meters. Scientology really is a fraud and L Ron Hubbard was a quack.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

The one topic they forgot?

Vibration.

I won an undergraduate award once for Infrared Spectroscopy. I've conducted Raman Spectroscopy as a professional scientist. I know my fucking vibrational energy physics (that is a HIGHLY simplified page - if you want the real deal, read this book) inside and out.

Vibration - an awful lot of people use that word. It doesn't mean what they think it means.

Love this thread!

HellYeah, vibration has gotta be there!

But, if you get to add vibration, I am adding "Adaptogens" that magically migrate to wherever there is a physiological need, knowing precisely what therapeutic task to perform.

 

[La La Lou Lou]

There are some really ineffectual snake oil cures but the fact is that they can work. They don't work physically but they do work as placebos. A patient believing that something prescribed or even an operation will cure the problem can get cured even from sugar pills, injections of water or being knocked out and scratched and sewn up as if a procedure had taken place. The immune system is designed to fight infection, natural pain killers can be released into the effected area simply by feeling that the doctor has looked at 'it' and told you what 'it' is. There are cases of people knowingly taking placebos because they are the only thing that works, it might be anecdotal but there are real cases. Searching the forest for the herbs the wise old woman told you would cure it is all part of the process of telling your mind to relax that relief is on its way. The mind is key in overcoming pain and infection and sugar pills might not work for diabetics but may well work for tension headaches without nasty side effects. I watched a program the other week about this there was guy who been hypnotised getting dental treatment without anaesthetic, it was grim to watch but he was fine. This is not the same documentary, but it's interesting.

Snake oil salesmen do see a few people getting cured, they then believe that it works, it may only be a very small percent but some people will be cured by anything. Some people get out of wheel chairs and walk because they let the little baby Jesus into their hearts, or the Lord Krishna, or because they kiss the stone representing Shivas penis or because they paid a priest to look after an orphan or because they had dianetics. The point is not that they got better but why and what percent of people get better. Most people who take cures for the common cold do get better, after a week, but so do most people who take nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvbQnMvhQFw

 

[Udarnik]

Love this thread!

HellYeah, vibration has gotta be there!

But, if you get to add vibration, I am adding "Adaptogens" that magically migrate to wherever there is a physiological need, knowing precisely what therapeutic task to perform.

All right, I'll see your adaptogens and raise you colloids! Silver Colloids!

 

[Free Being Me]

All right, I'll see your adaptogens and raise you colloids! Silver Colloids!

That's hilarious. I see colloidal silver being sold at camper/prepper sites as a general purpose antibiotic and just cringe.

 

[Udarnik]

That's hilarious. I see colloidal silver being sold at camper/prepper sites as a general purpose antibiotic and just cringe.

WTF is wrong with iodine, for Chrissakes?

 

[Lermanet_com]

That's hilarious. I see colloidal silver being sold at camper/prepper sites as a general purpose antibiotic and just cringe.

Why? Silver Nitrate has been used for a hundred years, as the first thing done after cutting the cord... a few drops are placed in the baby's eyes to kill syphilus that used to blind many newborns...
and as a coating on catheters. Silver is currently being incorporated into all sorts of medical devices to prevent bacterial growth.
Frontiersmen traveling in wagons across the US used to drop a silver coin into each water barrel to prevent dysentery..
It is, perhaps why, people first favored eating with silver utensils - not because it was an expensive pretty metal that you not only had to wash but you had to polish it, it turned black with use... eating on a slightly tarnished silver plate adds some silver ions to your meal... likely reducing nasty bouts of kneeling before the porcelain telephone., yelling for ralph.

 

[Free Being Me]

Why? Silver Nitrate has been used for a hundred years, as the first thing done after cutting the cord... a few drops are placed in the baby's eyes to kill syphilus that used to blind many newborns...
and as a coating on catheters. Silver is currently being incorporated into all sorts of medical devices to prevent bacterial growth.
Frontiersmen traveling in wagons across the US used to drop a silver coin into each water barrel to prevent dysentery..
It is, perhaps why, people first favored eating with silver utensils - not because it was an expensive pretty metal that you not only had to wash but you had to polish it, it turned black with use... eating on a slightly tarnished silver plate adds some silver ions to your meal... likely reducing nasty bouts of kneeling before the porcelain telephone., yelling to talk to ralph.

I'm talking about colloidal silver being sold as a sole purpose cure all antibiotic to people who are being misled.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-l.../expert-answers/colloidal-silver/faq-20058061
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html

 

[Free Being Me]

All right, I'll see your adaptogens and raise you colloids! Silver Colloids!

I'll see your silver colloids and raise you an e-meter.

 

[DagwoodGum]

That's hilarious. I see colloidal silver being sold at camper/prepper sites as a general purpose antibiotic and just cringe.

I wouldn't use that stuff now even though I did buy some to try, then I saw photos of a guy who's skin turned blue after using it as an antibiotic.. Certain types of plant growers spray it on female plants or even just portions of the plant to reverse the plants sexuality turning the otherwise female plant or a portion of it male for seed production. The seeds then become "feminized" so they can sell them and 99.9% will be female plants. I have a great tasting papaya plant that I wanted to try it on. But this makes Monsanto look like organic farmers.
http://femaleseeds.wordpress.com/tag/how-to-use-colloidal-silver-to-produce-feminized-seeds/

 

[Mimsey Borogrove]

For the complex: when people use this term esoterically, they generally mean quantum vibration. But they mix it up with the vibration we are more familiar with - mechanical vibration, especially sound. We speak of being "in tune" with someone when we are clicking with them. That is perfectly fine as a metaphor. But our minds are not vibrating in any meaningful sense other than the pulse of blood carrying oxygen to our neurons.

Really? Ever watch people walk down the sidewalk? They seem to fall into equal strides and they have no idea they are doing it. Is that a metaphor? Mimsey

By Linda Carroll

Whether it’s the couples gliding seamlessly across the floor in “Dancing with the Stars” or soldiers marching lock-step in parade, those kinds of synchronous movements can lead to a sort of unconscious mental harmony, two new studies show.

There’s something about moving in sync that makes us feel connected with others and leads us to want to think the way they do, says Scott Wiltermuth, an assistant professor of management and organization at the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California. He wrote two recently released studies on the effects of synchronicity.

And while that may initially sound like a good thing, the mental connection can have a dark side because it may override our natural inclinations and better judgment, Wiltermuth says.

"We feel more emotionally connected to one another when we’re moving in sync,” he explains. “And because of that we’re more likely to follow orders."

As examples of the dark side, Wiltermuth points to Nazi Germany and current day North Korea.

For one of the new studies, Wiltermuth asked 70 volunteer college students to walk behind an experimenter either matching stride for stride, or completely out of sync, or at whatever pace felt most comfortable.

After their spin around campus, the students were given questionnaires that asked them to rate on a 7-point scale how close they felt to the experimenter, how much they liked the experimenter, and how similar they felt to the experimenter, according to the report published in the journal Social Influence.

Sure enough, those who walked in sync saw themselves as more similar to the experimenter than those walking either purposely out of step or at whatever pace as they wished. The volunteers who walked in sync also felt closer to the experimenter.

In the second part of the study, volunteers were asked by the experimenter after their walk to funnel as many sow bugs -- also known as roly poly bugs -- as possible into a grinder labeled an “extermination machine.” In the end, the volunteers who had walked in sync with the experimenter “killed” the most pill bugs.

Wiltermuth is quick to point out that no actual critters were harmed in the experiment -- there was a trap door that shuttled them off to safety.

In his second study, 156 volunteers were divided into teams of three and trained to move plastic cups in a specific sequence in rhythm with music that was played through headphones. In some groups the music was the same, which led teams to move their cups in sync. In other groups the music was different, leading teams to move their cups out of sync.

When each group was finished they were told they could pick the music the next group would listen to. Teams that moved in sync once again felt closer to those in their group and were more likely to choose to blast unpleasant music to the next team at the request of a teammate (who happened to be an experimenter).

Wiltermuth doesn’t think there’s anything people can do about the sinister aspects of moving in sync, other than just being aware of its effects.

“Such synchronized activity might lead us to do things we might not otherwise do," he cautions.

http://bodyodd.nbcnews.com/_news/20...-in-sync-makes-people-think-alike-study-finds

 

[Free Being Me]

I wouldn't use that stuff now even though I did buy some to try, then I saw photos of a guy who's skin turned blue after using it as an antibiotic.. Certain types of plant growers spray it on female plants or even just portions of the plant to reverse the plants sexuality turning the otherwise female plant or a portion of it male for seed production. The seeds then become "feminized" so they can sell them and 99.9% will be female plants. I have a great tasting papaya plant that I wanted to try it on. But this makes Monsanto look like organic farmers.
http://femaleseeds.wordpress.com/tag/how-to-use-colloidal-silver-to-produce-feminized-seeds/

I almost ordered a bottle myself for a first aid kit until I did searches on the net wanting to know what I was buying and side effects.

 

[Udarnik]

Really? Ever watch people walk down the sidewalk? They seem to fall into equal strides and they have no idea they are doing it. Is that a metaphor? Mimsey


http://bodyodd.nbcnews.com/_news/20...-in-sync-makes-people-think-alike-study-finds

The leadership aspect has nothing to do with vibration, or even rhythm, and everything to do with concentrating on a leader and following his / her commands or movements. Once you're conditioned to be following that person in a given activity, it's easier to allow yourself to follow in other activities. That's why the military still puts marching in formation into basic training, despite that tactic being obsolete since the Civil War. It makes the non-com's jobs a lot easier off the parade ground. But it doesn't have to be movement. It's the same thing the TRs are used for to get you thinking in sync with the cult.

The desire to move in sync subconsciously is likely an evolutionary adaptation to keep enemies / predators from knowing exactly how many members are in a band of approaching humans.

 

[Udarnik]

I'll see your silver colloids and raise you an e-meter.

Is the new design of the e-meter deliberate?

OK, let me step back, is it indeed true that early Dianeticist and Elron rival Ronald B. Howes was indeed the same Ronald B. Howes who invented the E-Z Bake oven?