OldAuditor
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Some of you may know that I was delivering NOTs and other standard Scientology Bridge actions in the field beginning in early 2010. While working with one client who was experiencing body difficulties from the actions of an entity, I was surprised to hear her say, “I think he is trying to help me!” That started the process of discovery which resulted in Spiritual Rescue Technology.
I asked myself if beings were trying to help us, why should we be getting rid of them as so much garbage to be discarded? OT 3 and NOTs is all about getting rid of entities by any means possible. This is not auditing in any sense of the word, it is forced disconnection and some of you will know how that feels.
Spiritual Rescue Technology (SRT) is all about rescuing beings from the incidents they are stuck in and bringing them to present time and putting them to work if they are interested in doing so. It was developed and is still being expanded with the help of dozens of friends and volunteers.
One of my clients who knows SRT raised some questions on the differences between Scientology and Spiritual Rescue Technology. The answers may be of interest to some of you. I have answered her questions on a point by point basis:
1) When people “handle” entities using Scientology OT tech, where do the entities go? What condition are they in? Have they been brought up to present time? Are they unstuck from the incidents they were in? Are they told, “Go away and don’t ever come back!”
When using Scn OT tech, the auditor or solo auditor is only interested in REMOVING entities. The entities can be scraped off if necessary but there is no attempt to bring them to present time. The auditor goes on to the next entity as soon as a blowdown occurs and a floating needle is observed. The relief may be coming from the OT as he realizes his problems came from the entity. Most entities in OT sessions are not handled or unstuck from the incidents they were stuck in. The process was continued until the point where the preOt got relief and F/Ned.
Often the entity just leaves the person’s body and hangs around in the auditing room. There were auditing rooms at Flag that were filled with entities hanging on the walls and ceilings and I resisted getting auditing from those auditors as they were not completing the auditing cycles.
We did some research recently and could sense clouds of unhandled and upset entities hanging over Flag and AOLA. Every NOTs session seems to produce more upset and disoriented entities.
2) When you’re doing SRT, how do you know if the problem you’re trying to fix is the result of an entity or the result of one of your own engrams? I know that in Scn, you wouldn’t be doing this until your own case was handled to everyone’s satisfaction and all of your own engrams had been handled (erased or just not being continuously created by yourself).
In SRT, you do not take anything for granted. If the person says the problem is coming from an entity, that is what you handle. If the person is not sure you check to see where the upset is coming from. SRT clients learn very early to identify whether it is them or an entity that has a particular thought or impulse or incident in restimulation.
Scientology processes are being run on entities and preclears at the same time. Most of the time the entity thinks he IS the preclear so the process runs well on him also. Believe it or not, all of the lower grade processes you ran were being run on entities for the most part and as long as they were not overrun, everyone got gains.
3) Are people who have completed OT VII uncomfortable around the rest of us who still have entities? Would they be uncomfortable around SRT people who have entities who are friendly and helpful?
OT VIIs come in all levels of ability and case completion. The OT has attested to “no more entities” or some equivalent statement so he or she has managed to put all of their entities into hiding or is so keyed out that they cannot “see” any entities that day and they attest.
Usually, they have trained themselves to not see entities as that would mean that they are not finished!
The ones who can still see entities do not know what to do with them and they usually manage to avoid upsetting their entities by avoiding things the entities do not like.
Any OT should be more comfortable around SRT people because the SRT people are less restimulating. There is one situation you should be aware of and that is an OT who knows he has false attested and still has entities may be upset at the fact that you do not seem to have “things” like masses or dangerous energies in your space and yet you are not an official OT! You will be missing his withhold big time!
4) Are people who have completed OT VII uncomfortable no matter where they go? There are entities EVERYWHERE! Are they AFRAID of getting “contaminated” again?
Some are not uncomfortable because they are much better off than they were before. They do not have as many entities affecting them and they are aware of that, Yes, many OTs are afraid of being contaminated again even though they attested to “All Gone!” They see themselves exhibiting strange behavior and do not know where it is coming from. Pity them because they have been indoctrinated and are afraid to talk to anyone about their fears or problems.
5) How does “getting rid of your entities” with Scn OT auditing make a person more able? I had always thought that the mysterious OT levels actually created tremendously able beings. How is Joe Blow MINUS his entities more able? This makes no sense to me!
Beings are naturally good and are naturally able unless they have some engram in restimulation. Put a lot of beings in control of a body with no realization that the others are there and they will do contradictory things like several people trying to drive a bus at the same time. Joe Blow without his entities is more able because his entities are elsewhere even if they are not handled
6) I’ve observed two people for years while they were on OT VII and after they completed it and then completed OT VIII. I didn’t notice anything different about them. Things didn’t get better around them. In fact, things seemed to get worse and they weren’t cause over it. They were the complete effect of it. People who weren’t even in Scn were doing far better than these two people were doing. Why?
Many people not in Scn gravitate to jobs and mates who do not restimulate them. They operate at their top potential if that occurs.
People with problems are attracted to Scn or psychology or psychiatry or something similar. In Scn it is now a crap shoot whether you will get help because the organization has gotten psychotic. You are indoctrinated more and more as you go up the Bridge so you are stopped from communicating as you supposedly gain more ability to communicate and you are more under the control of the organization at the expense of your first and second Dynamics. A fully indoctrinated OT is a spiritual zombie and you get this impression when you see one: http://possiblyhelpfuladvice.com/?p=332. There used to be many OTs who were not indoctrinated and they are now out of the church.
7) How the hell could anyone ever be “done” with OT VII if it’s all about auditing entities like we do in SRT? Unless entities learn to avoid OT VIIs because they sense it’s unsafe to hang out around them?
People convince themselves they are done in order to escape from Flag or the ship and get back to their normal lives. There are always days when you have a big win and you psych yourself up to attest to completion. I know because I saw it all the time at Flag. Desperation can make you learn to F/N even if you are crying inside.
If you have done any SRT at all you are in better shape to create a future than any Scn OT. You, at least, know what you are dealing with and your product is enlightened entities who become your friends. Scn OTs do not have that option. They are surrounded by crippled or resentful entities that they are studiously ignoring.
I asked myself if beings were trying to help us, why should we be getting rid of them as so much garbage to be discarded? OT 3 and NOTs is all about getting rid of entities by any means possible. This is not auditing in any sense of the word, it is forced disconnection and some of you will know how that feels.
Spiritual Rescue Technology (SRT) is all about rescuing beings from the incidents they are stuck in and bringing them to present time and putting them to work if they are interested in doing so. It was developed and is still being expanded with the help of dozens of friends and volunteers.
One of my clients who knows SRT raised some questions on the differences between Scientology and Spiritual Rescue Technology. The answers may be of interest to some of you. I have answered her questions on a point by point basis:
1) When people “handle” entities using Scientology OT tech, where do the entities go? What condition are they in? Have they been brought up to present time? Are they unstuck from the incidents they were in? Are they told, “Go away and don’t ever come back!”
When using Scn OT tech, the auditor or solo auditor is only interested in REMOVING entities. The entities can be scraped off if necessary but there is no attempt to bring them to present time. The auditor goes on to the next entity as soon as a blowdown occurs and a floating needle is observed. The relief may be coming from the OT as he realizes his problems came from the entity. Most entities in OT sessions are not handled or unstuck from the incidents they were stuck in. The process was continued until the point where the preOt got relief and F/Ned.
Often the entity just leaves the person’s body and hangs around in the auditing room. There were auditing rooms at Flag that were filled with entities hanging on the walls and ceilings and I resisted getting auditing from those auditors as they were not completing the auditing cycles.
We did some research recently and could sense clouds of unhandled and upset entities hanging over Flag and AOLA. Every NOTs session seems to produce more upset and disoriented entities.
2) When you’re doing SRT, how do you know if the problem you’re trying to fix is the result of an entity or the result of one of your own engrams? I know that in Scn, you wouldn’t be doing this until your own case was handled to everyone’s satisfaction and all of your own engrams had been handled (erased or just not being continuously created by yourself).
In SRT, you do not take anything for granted. If the person says the problem is coming from an entity, that is what you handle. If the person is not sure you check to see where the upset is coming from. SRT clients learn very early to identify whether it is them or an entity that has a particular thought or impulse or incident in restimulation.
Scientology processes are being run on entities and preclears at the same time. Most of the time the entity thinks he IS the preclear so the process runs well on him also. Believe it or not, all of the lower grade processes you ran were being run on entities for the most part and as long as they were not overrun, everyone got gains.
3) Are people who have completed OT VII uncomfortable around the rest of us who still have entities? Would they be uncomfortable around SRT people who have entities who are friendly and helpful?
OT VIIs come in all levels of ability and case completion. The OT has attested to “no more entities” or some equivalent statement so he or she has managed to put all of their entities into hiding or is so keyed out that they cannot “see” any entities that day and they attest.
Usually, they have trained themselves to not see entities as that would mean that they are not finished!
The ones who can still see entities do not know what to do with them and they usually manage to avoid upsetting their entities by avoiding things the entities do not like.
Any OT should be more comfortable around SRT people because the SRT people are less restimulating. There is one situation you should be aware of and that is an OT who knows he has false attested and still has entities may be upset at the fact that you do not seem to have “things” like masses or dangerous energies in your space and yet you are not an official OT! You will be missing his withhold big time!
4) Are people who have completed OT VII uncomfortable no matter where they go? There are entities EVERYWHERE! Are they AFRAID of getting “contaminated” again?
Some are not uncomfortable because they are much better off than they were before. They do not have as many entities affecting them and they are aware of that, Yes, many OTs are afraid of being contaminated again even though they attested to “All Gone!” They see themselves exhibiting strange behavior and do not know where it is coming from. Pity them because they have been indoctrinated and are afraid to talk to anyone about their fears or problems.
5) How does “getting rid of your entities” with Scn OT auditing make a person more able? I had always thought that the mysterious OT levels actually created tremendously able beings. How is Joe Blow MINUS his entities more able? This makes no sense to me!
Beings are naturally good and are naturally able unless they have some engram in restimulation. Put a lot of beings in control of a body with no realization that the others are there and they will do contradictory things like several people trying to drive a bus at the same time. Joe Blow without his entities is more able because his entities are elsewhere even if they are not handled
6) I’ve observed two people for years while they were on OT VII and after they completed it and then completed OT VIII. I didn’t notice anything different about them. Things didn’t get better around them. In fact, things seemed to get worse and they weren’t cause over it. They were the complete effect of it. People who weren’t even in Scn were doing far better than these two people were doing. Why?
Many people not in Scn gravitate to jobs and mates who do not restimulate them. They operate at their top potential if that occurs.
People with problems are attracted to Scn or psychology or psychiatry or something similar. In Scn it is now a crap shoot whether you will get help because the organization has gotten psychotic. You are indoctrinated more and more as you go up the Bridge so you are stopped from communicating as you supposedly gain more ability to communicate and you are more under the control of the organization at the expense of your first and second Dynamics. A fully indoctrinated OT is a spiritual zombie and you get this impression when you see one: http://possiblyhelpfuladvice.com/?p=332. There used to be many OTs who were not indoctrinated and they are now out of the church.
7) How the hell could anyone ever be “done” with OT VII if it’s all about auditing entities like we do in SRT? Unless entities learn to avoid OT VIIs because they sense it’s unsafe to hang out around them?
People convince themselves they are done in order to escape from Flag or the ship and get back to their normal lives. There are always days when you have a big win and you psych yourself up to attest to completion. I know because I saw it all the time at Flag. Desperation can make you learn to F/N even if you are crying inside.
If you have done any SRT at all you are in better shape to create a future than any Scn OT. You, at least, know what you are dealing with and your product is enlightened entities who become your friends. Scn OTs do not have that option. They are surrounded by crippled or resentful entities that they are studiously ignoring.