“Even in war they let you take care of your dead. Not the CO$"

Terril park

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“Even in war they let you take care of your dead. Not the Church of Scientology!” cried Karen de la Carriere, an ex-church member. Her 27 year old son, Alexander Jentzsch, was found dead in Los Angeles, California on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 at the home of his Scientology in-laws. In typical church manner the death was kept secret and the details hidden. There are rumors of the death being caused by high fever, or – the church’s line – “over-medicated.” But worse than that, Scientology’s legal arm, the Office of Special Affairs, would not let Karen see her son. Her agony tore me apart when we spoke. “This toxic organization must be stopped!”

-- read more: http://blog.scientologyrecovery.com/

Sincerely,
Glenn Samuels
 

Div6

Crusader
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Wow...the "Church of Scientology" at Total Effect of SP's and wogs....

Nope, no OT's there..
 

Arthur Dent

Silver Meritorious Patron
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Wish there was a way to assist Heber in escaping while he is momentarily out of the hole. Wish he could be ushered into an escape car and speed off to freedom.
I doubt he'll make a run for it as he probably doesn't even know he can instantly be connected to the outside world. Maybe some people there can make signs and let him know all he has to do is demand his freedom and he'll be well taken care of!
 

looker

Patron Meritorious
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Yippeee Heber will be able to come out!!! back to his roots @ CC. He is 76 wow I wonder how he looks and what he'll say. I wonder if he will just wonder out the front door after the service and catch a cab to anywhere but Hemit.

Someone anonymous ( maybe Tory Magoo as host) ought to charter a bus to be parked outside CC with a big Banner on the side that says "Welcome. This Way Out" and hire Sherrif's to escort anyone wishing asylum.
 

NoName

A Girl Has No Name
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Someone anonymous ( maybe Tory Magoo as host) ought to charter a bus to be parked outside CC with a big Banner on the side that says "Welcome. This Way Out" and hire Sherrif's to escort anyone wishing asylum.

Yes!!! Or private security company. I wouldn't trust LAPD when it comes to the Co$.
 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation
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I knew those cruel pricks would do this at the last moment, its almost as if they wanted to get the full value of nasty from Alexanders death, in order to hurt Karen even more.

The comment below is about as silly as anything they have ever said ... can you imagine the reaction of a non scientologist reading that?

When our source asked the official if Alexander's mother, Karen de la Carriere, would be allowed to attend, the official answered that de la Carriere would be barred because "she opted out of this sector of the universe."


They never learn ... good.

You've got it coming, cult.
 

Smilla

Ordinary Human
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Taking the Stockholm Syndrome into account, Heber might very well not want to leave.
 

Illegal Alien

Patron with Honors
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"Disconnection carring on after death"

"Not being invited to her own sons funeral"

Having to have two seperate funerals because a cult views you as "evil" because you disagree with them and have been labelled "suppresive"

Would love to hear scientologists justify this................................

Tribunal should be called for crimes against humanity.

:angry::grouch::angry::grouch::angry::grouch:
 

jenni with an eye

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I knew those cruel pricks would do this at the last moment, its almost as if they wanted to get the full value of nasty from Alexanders death, in order to hurt Karen even more.


Doesn't surprise me either but makes me :angry:



As Karen said in the article
"Disconnection continues after death"

The so called church's level of understanding & caring really does show the true nature of the beast called scientology.

People from far & wide can now see for themselves, that the 'disconnection policy' is very much alive & well in the land of scientology.......:footbullet:

People can also now see how far the cofs is willing to take this disconnection policy. :footbullet::footbullet:

Plain disgusting :angry::angry:
 

Free to shine

Shiny & Free
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"Heber must be heartbroken. But he will be at the funeral, and then Alexander's mother will have her own memorial for him, so that is twice as good," she added, referring to the memorial service she has arranged, which is taking place on a boat on Friday. She assumed that Scientology's service was hastily arranged because of all the press her situation has received in recent days.

"It's damage control," she said. "My memorial has created such a flap. TV stations will be there. Sam Domingo is flying in from London. I have people coming from other states."

She assumed that TV and other journalists would try to get a look at Heber. "He'll be surrounded by people. They won't let him loose. He won't be allowed to flee. As soon as it's over, he'll be escorted back," she said.

Sad.
 

GoNuclear

Gold Meritorious Patron
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Considering the degree of control, Heber might as well have expired himself, his body being operated as per that movie Weekend At Bernie's. DM might as well be the ventriliquist, and the eulogy was written by DM's speech writer, the official LRH biographer, can't think of his name off hand. Security will be tight for the event, and Heber will be immediately whisked away afterwards.

Pete
 

exsomessenger

Patron Meritorious
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does it really take a person dying for people to believe that disconnection happens in the church. Nothing like this should happen to any human. If I was going to be at the service I would walk up to heber, hug him and never let him go.

For me I fear that the next time I will see any of my family that is in scientology will be once they are dead. Thanks scientology for DESTROYING another FAMILY in the name of freedom.

For anyone living with disconnection there are others out here who understand and are willing to listen and help. Please talk about this topic and help keep the truth in view.

EXSOM
 
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Veda

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This one made his greatest hits disc too

[video=youtube;djFu-4pOAeo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djFu-4pOAeo[/video]

That's an oldie but a goodie.

These days, Scientology, even Scientology Inc., if only through its hired (non-Scientology) "religious expert" PR shills is, or is on the verge of, admitting that "exorcism" is part of Scientology.

They really have no choice, and it can be used to deflect from the "Xenu story," by explaining that "exorcism" is "part of other religions," etc., and that the "Xenu story" is just an allegory, etc.

Scientology will become truly dangerous - and not just offensive, vulgar, cruel, and obnoxious - when the all-thumbs Miscavige leaves and a slick "ARC-ful" and "friendly" operator takes over.
 

Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
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Just when I think they have hit an new all time low... they make me wrong and do something even more putrid.... worse.


However, I suspect at 11 AM tomorrow at CC .... it will be the place to be.

Anybody still have their IAS memebership card ?

Oh boy !
 
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Veda

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-snip-

Please talk about this topic and help keep the truth in view.

EXSOM

Some background re. Disconnection:

From Tony Ortega's blog, chat:

Xenu in reply to Sketto:

Since I worked for HCO [Hubbard Communications Office] during the 1970s, I'd thought I'd chime in with what I personally witnessed during those years.

Hubbard actually did cancel disconnection, after Australia had cracked down, and New Zealand was on the verge of outlawing the cult. Not only did he cancel disconnection, but he also banned Fair Game, sec checks, and the recording of what went on in auditing sessions. Way cool, huh?

The only problem was that the policy letter cancelling those things was only issued to the New Zealand government commission that was considering the banning of Scientology.
[note: It was also mentioned in a few other places, such a PR book written for Scientology, and, and there was a show made of displaying Hubbard's 1968 faux "Reform Code" for "wogs" and "raw meat."]

I oversaw a ton of disconnection during the 1970s, and had to disconnect from a couple of people myself. I personally saw that they continued to happen at major Class IV [now called Class V] and SO [Sea Org] orgs just as they always had. Nothing changed... Sec checks and Fair Game continued, despite the wholly disingenuous sham of policy change.

Andre Tabayoyon, and various other poster here, who were in HCO in the '70s, can easily vouch for me on this
...

Here's some more from Xenu over at Tony O's at the Village Voice:

...Hubbard was getting a lot of PR flack over disconnection, so he wrote a policy which would help PR a lot without changing anything significant. I'm sure it was meant to be misunderstood by outsiders...

The policy did NOT cancel disconnection, rather it said that 'disconnection as a condition' was cancelled. Now, one might well ask, WTF is 'disconnection as a condition'?

If you dig through some ancient ethics folders, you would find that they would often explicitly state that the subject of the ethics order was to disconnect from one or more other parties who would be named in the ethics order, and that reinstatement to good standing would not happen until that had been done. THAT was disconnection as a condition.

So we stopped naming names of people to be disconnected from in ethics orders. Instead, Type A PTS would be told that they had to handle or disconnect, and if handling was impossible, well, too bad! And people still had to disconnect from SPs... the Nov '68 policy had no real impact other than PR.


Here's a little more background: From Volume One of the OEC Course, HCO Division, a.k.a. a Green Volume, from 1974, HCOPL dated 23 December 1965, 'Suppressive Acts, Suppression of Scientology and Scientologists', and on page two of that HCOPL there is a list of suppressive acts over forty lines long - most of the page.

"Suppressive acts are defined as actions or omissions undertaken to knowingly suppress, reduce, or impede Scientology or Scientologists...

"[Such suppressive acts include] public disavowal of Scientology... public statements against Scientology.

"[Suppressive acts also include] continued membership in a divergent group; continued adherence to a Suppressive Person or group pronounced a Suppressive Person or group by HCO; failure to handle or disavow or disconnect from a person demonstrably guilty of suppressive acts; being at the hire of anti-Scientology groups or persons...
"

Disconnection was standard Scientology policy and practice in the 1970s.

When Hubbard's 1968 sham cancellation of Disconnection (and Fair Game) was seen to have created some amount of confusion, during a period of schism in the early 1980s, a decision was made to issue a reinstatement of Disconnection, but anyone seriously involved with Scientology in the 1970s knows that disconnection was never discontinued. Handle or disconnect was always standard practice, no matter how it was disguised or named.
 

Wants2Talk

Silver Meritorious Patron
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Would you see this future with me?

Heber steps to the microphone, clears his throat, takes a folded paper from his pocket, looks to the cameras and speaks truth....:omg:

Would somebody write the next line?
 
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