1972 French report on Scientology: can you ID anyone?

[AnonyMary]

Donat Perbohner: I suspect he's deceased. See link

From 2009 post, he is listed as a contributor to the HAPI Ideal Org. He might be in a group photo , shown at one of the links below.

Donat Perbohner: Listed here on header as deceased. See mother's maiden name in docs below to confirm it's him. Not sure if accurate but a relative posted that on a genealogy site here
http://www.geni.com/people/Donat-Perbohner/6000000029720337373

2009 Donat Perbohner listed as a contributor FRIEND OF SCOTLAND
to HAPI Ideal org
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...-Leaked-Emails&p=299407&viewfull=1#post299407

2009 Photo. Is he in this photo?
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...-Leaked-Emails&p=266524&viewfull=1#post266524

Info on him.Marriage, wife name , daughter name and her current activities as a scientologist

Donat B I Perbohner
England and Wales, Birth Registration Index
Name: Donat B I Perbohner
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1946
Registration District: Amersham
County: Buckinghamshire
Event Place: Amersham, Buckinghamshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Jofis
Volume: 3A
Page: 2308
Line Number: 61
Citing this Record

"England and Wales, Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/QV77-GNBT : accessed 23 February 2015), Donat B I Perbohner, 1946; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," index, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

Marriage cert Donat Perbohner & Penelope A Thei
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV77-GNBT

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVX4-R6CX

Marriage cert Donat B I Perbohner & Penelope A Thei
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVX4-R6CN

Francesca M Perbohner
St Albans, Hertfordshire, AL4 Full Address
Penelope A Thei
http://www.192.com/atoz/people/perbohner/francesca/

Personal efficiency course - Adoos.co.uk
www.adoos.co.uk/post/17766413/personal_efficiency_course
overworked? overwhelmed? overcome it! success begins with personal efficiency. attend a course in scientology. • how do you ... User: francesca Perbohner ...

stc on Twitter: "Francesca Perbohner - Dianetics Seminar In ...
https://twitter.com/stopthecult/status/7427388336
Jan 5, 2010 - Francesca Perbohner - Dianetics Seminar In Charge at Hubbard Academy: var zoomImagesURI = 'http:/www... http://bit.ly/8kx0fV #Scientology.

"Francesca Perbohner" scientology
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q="Francesca+Perbohner"+scientology

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/d/donat-perbohner.html

 

[Free to shine]

The Scots minister I remember as Ian but I can't remember more than that. He was the minister at my marriage at Saint Hill Chapel in 1970, although we had to also have a civil ceremony to make it legal. I have a photo somewhere.

I've just watched the video.
I can also confirm Donat Perbohner, Sheila Massey-Hicks, Heidi Keely (I lived with her and husband Jim at the Stables when it was privately rented out in 1969), David Gaiman of course, Lyn Collins in the choir I think.

The still of the video shows Reception ... I would like to see a better picture as I was the Receptionist at Saint Hill on and off for years. Crikey - it might be me although the hair looks a bit long! Kinda looks like my nose.

 

[Albion]

I only recognised Lyn Collins and David Gaiman.

Thanks La La,

Would that be Lyn(n) Collins in the choir? In which case, which one of them?

 

[Free to shine]

Thanks La La,

Would that be Lyn(n) Collins in the choir? In which case, which one of them?

First on the left.

 

[Karen#1]

Emphatically not Peter Buttery.
I knew Peter well.

Because Scientology Inc is a culture of blame and ONLY point the finger, incapable of ever being responsible for the horrendous crimes committed, the cannonballs were shot from cannons (on Lisa Mcpherson death) and Peter Buttery was ordered off all Tech lines by RTC for the rest of his life, and was ordered to heavy manual menial work.

I was told he was being a folder admin, which is towing and moving and filing confessional folders by the bucket load all day long ~~ not long after Mcpherson death, a ton of folders fell off a high rack along with the heavy metal of the support rack and crashed on his head, leaving Peter Buttery disabled and heavily dysfunctional.

Not long after he was dead. He and Alain Kartunsuski, Class XII Lisa Mcpherson CS and Class XII Senior CS of Lisa Mcpherson Richard Reiss all died. Alain and Peter strangely enough died within a short window of each other.
Death Cult.

​

 

[Dulloldfart]

The Scots minister I remember as Ian but I can't remember more than that. He was the minister at my marriage at Saint Hill Chapel in 1970, although we had to also have a civil ceremony to make it legal. I have a photo somewhere.

Hah! That's the one. I very vaguely remembered he had something to do with finance. I Googled >>>"ian logan" scientology<<< and he shows up on Arnie's site:

Ian Logan - former Finance Audits Unit I/C WW​

http://www.lermanet.com/reference/corporatesham.htm

Paul

 

[La La Lou Lou]

First on the left.

Exactly!

 

[ozzie]

My mother is in the choir - at the end. Lyn Collins is at the other end of the choir. Then there's Eva - can't remember her last name - from Sweden.
That isn't Donat Perbohner by the way - Peter Buttery more like. Donat I believe is still alive in Scotland.

Ozzie

 

[Dulloldfart]

Then there's Eva - can't remember her last name - from Sweden.

Was it Isaacson?

Paul

 

[uncover]

My mother is in the choir - at the end.
.....
Ozzie

Cool.... assuming that you are the "Ozzie" (Ozzy Osbourne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozzy_Osbourne) we know now that the last name of the women in the choir at the right will be "Osbourne".... but we don´t know what is her first name ?

 

[ozzie]

could very well have been Isaacson. She was there at Saint Hill forever and came to the base at Flag for a while then disappeared. Don't know what happened to her.

One other person in the choir is Doris - cant remember her last name either. If someone has one of their tapes they made I think that has their names on it.

Wow, such a long time ago. My mom looks so young there!

Ozzie

 

[ozzie]

Cool.... assuming that you are the "Ozzie" (Ozzy Osbourne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozzy_Osbourne) we know now that the last name of the women in the choir at the right will be "Osbourne".... but we don´t know what is her first name ?

Um no Im not ozzie osbourne and my mothers name is the same as mine - Marion.

 

[Dulloldfart]

could very well have been Isaacson. She was there at Saint Hill forever and came to the base at Flag for a while then disappeared. Don't know what happened to her.

One other person in the choir is Doris - cant remember her last name either. If someone has one of their tapes they made I think that has their names on it.

Wow, such a long time ago. My mom looks so young there!

Ozzie

Thanks. Doris's last name is in post #3 of this thread.

Marion . . . thinks . . . Barton! I remembered her (the mum) from Saint Hill. Never met the daughter (you).

Paul

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Could the blonde Swedish lady have been Eva Ronquist (Ulf Ronquists first wife) from FOLOUK?

She disappeared almost overnight (she went back home I believe and took their child) when she and Ulf suddenly split, he later married Devon Rowlands.

 

[Albion]

Could the blonde Swedish lady have been Eva Ronquist (Ulf Ronquists first wife) from FOLOUK?

She disappeared almost overnight (she went back home I believe and took their child) when she and Ulf suddenly split, he later married Devon Rowlands.

Hi ITYIWT,

Someone's already suggested it could be an Eva Marinowicz (see my updated story).

Is that perhaps the same person?

Jonny

 

[Karen#1]

Hi ITYIWT,

Someone's already suggested it could be an Eva Marinowicz (see my updated story).

Is that perhaps the same person?

Jonny

Yes,

The man dressed *religiously( with the cross) is Ian Logan.
He lived in the same lodging dwelling as I did 6 St Hill Green, the house of Anne Greig.
He died suddenly in 1973 /1974.
We were told it must have been a heart attack.​

 

[Free to shine]

My mother is in the choir - at the end. Lyn Collins is at the other end of the choir. Then there's Eva - can't remember her last name - from Sweden.
That isn't Donat Perbohner by the way - Peter Buttery more like. Donat I believe is still alive in Scotland.

Ozzie

Good to see you! Yes, it was a long time ago and weird to see your mum there. My mum was in the choir too but I think it was later.

Donat - I am thinking the tall dark haired guy with the nice posh accent. But if he was Scots then he wouldn't sound so Pommy posh, right? The name always stuck with me but I remember faces more than names so I certainly could be wrong. I remember the face from GOWW, quiet guy, something to do with "tech" (Dept Policy Knowledge?). I wish my memory was better!

 

[Free to shine]

Hah! That's the one. I very vaguely remembered he had something to do with finance. I Googled >>>"ian logan" scientology<<< and he shows up on Arnie's site:

Ian Logan - former Finance Audits Unit I/C WW​

http://www.lermanet.com/reference/corporatesham.htm

Paul

Yes, thankyou! I always thought it amusing that he was our 'minister' being the dour accounting type. He didn't crack a smile often though I think he enjoyed the small time off for a wedding.

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Hi ITYIWT,

Someone's already suggested it could be an Eva Marinowicz (see my updated story).

Is that perhaps the same person?

Jonny

Marinowicz may have been her maiden name?

Sorry, I only knew of her as Ronquist, so I really couldn't say for sure.

 

[ozzie]

Eva's maiden name was Swedish, I think Isaacson was it. I don't know if she married Ulf Ronquist or not.

One other person I got identified is Catherine Layton - next to my mother Marion Barton in the choir. Also known as Catherine Barton - no relation.

I do know for sure that that isn't Donat Perbohner - I had a lot of dealings with him when I was there in 71 and he worked in the Guardians office. He did not have side burns like that and his hair was dark but not that curly or wavy.

Well think that identifies everyone pretty much.


PS Marinowitz was the name of Eddie - a Scottish lad who was originally connected to Morag Bellmaine. He did marry someone there but Im not sure that it was Eva and I know her name wasn't Marinowitz originally
Ozzie