1989 orange county org Calif...I was there....

me myself & i

Patron Meritorious
Just wondering if anyone here knew anyone there on staff back then. Lol.

Thats just about when and where I died on earth and was introduced to scientology heaven. And then was born again back onto earth. Moar laughter.

The only two individuals I recall (well, three) was a very pleasant young couple that operated a satelite facility (a mission?) about a 1/2 mile to a mile west of the org, and the gentlemen (whom was my immediate superior in the wog world heirarchy of high-level real estate games at the time that introduced me to scientology). His name was/is Tim. The names of the young couple I can't recall. John seems to come to mind for the male.

The couple were both OT 7s at the time, I believe. And he loved cars I recall.

Tim was a wonderfully gentle and unassuming man and had a wife that was equally and perfectly matched to his spirit. And I shall never forget (until memory fails me) of having lunch with Tim one innocent autumn day in a restaurant that only the Cream of the Crop of the Real Estate Corp of Southern California at the time would even dare to dream of patronizing. So to speak. Lol. And hearing his story about his envolvment with scientology.

Which story was almost spellbinding. But, I digress. Although I would love to find Tim, either free of scientology or happy with it in the now, I was just wondering if anyone here might know of the young couple that were most assuredly responsible for all of the up-stats of that org at that time. As now I realize, in hindsight, they were spiritually deceived and deceptful, but humanly beautiful still.

mm&i
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
John and Claire Woodruff

Just wondering if anyone here knew anyone there on staff back then. Lol.

Thats just about when and where I died on earth and was introduced to scientology heaven. And then was born again back onto earth. Moar laughter.

The only two individuals I recall (well, three) was a very pleasant young couple that operated a satelite facility (a mission?) about a 1/2 mile to a mile west of the org, and the gentlemen (whom was my immediate superior in the wog world heirarchy of high-level real estate games at the time that introduced me to scientology). His name was/is Tim. The names of the young couple I can't recall. John seems to come to mind for the male.

The couple were both OT 7s at the time, I believe. And he loved cars I recall.

Tim was a wonderfully gentle and unassuming man and had a wife that was equally and perfectly matched to his spirit. And I shall never forget (until memory fails me) of having lunch with Tim one innocent autumn day in a restaurant that only the Cream of the Crop of the Real Estate Corp of Southern California at the time would even dare to dream of patronizing. So to speak. Lol. And hearing his story about his envolvment with scientology.

Which story was almost spellbinding. But, I digress. Although I would love to find Tim, either free of scientology or happy with it in the now, I was just wondering if anyone here might know of the young couple that were most assuredly responsible for all of the up-stats of that org at that time. As now I realize, in hindsight, they were spiritually deceived and deceptful, but humanly beautiful still.

mm&i

Yes, I hung out there for 15 years, 1986 to 2001. When I started, the ED was John Woodruff who was OT 7, his wife was Claire, also OT VII. The other top execs were Dave Petit, who went on to fame or infamy as the current Commanding Officer at CCLA, then there was a real nice guy who I had known a bit at ASHO by the name of Bob Bushling and another veteran and pretty nice guy was Dave Worthen. Kathy Moore was in tech, probably Tech Sec, this is a different Kathy Moore than the beautiful young dancer at CCLA in the 70's. Bob Bushling is a really nice guy and he is sane, just a very good person and smart and stable. He was always there for you if you needed a "terminal". Paul Trozzi was the head Supervisor in the Academy and he had very good certainty on tech matters. He really knew his tech.

On the E meter dating drill, I would do it for hours and get some reads Okay and miss a lot of them. Paul held the cans for me and I got about 5 or 6 dates from him without a miss. I mean to get one date would take about 6 metered questions and I got 5 dates in a row without a miss or about thirty reads in a row that were correct and I passed the drill.

Ed Dearborn was in Div 6 with his former wife, Tina. When Woodruff was pulled up to L.A. Org by Miscavige, Dearborn took over as E.D. and is still there. A guy who was from South America and had a thick Spanish accent, Oscar. was the Ethics officer and his wife was in Tech. They were both OT's.

Up in L.A., I met tons of friends and people to hang out with. It is a big city atmosphere and high randomity. At the O.C. Org, I just came and did my courses and then left. I really did not even go to lunch with anyone for about 12 years, I always went alone. It was a low randomity place, comparatively speaking and I was already OT V and most of the people there were lower on the bridge. I did make friends with a beautiful young woman, Kim Whitworth. She was only about 19 or 20 and I was in my 50's. We were on the Academy Levels together and did drills and kind of made friends. She dropped out of Med School at the University of Washington to join staff. Her parents were on lines as were a brother and sister of hers. She is some sort of mission holder now, with her husband, down in Sourth Orange County around Newport Beach. I was friendly with the chief Registrar, Nancy Phearson. She was a strong registrar and a good person.

I know more names but a lot of it is blanked out. I only have about 1/3 the recall on the O.C. Org from '86 to '01 as I do on CCLA, ASHO and AO from '70 to '85. The O.C. Org was never like home to me, I did not fit in well there, it was just too low of a randomity. The only memorable thing about the place was the fish pond in the middle of their courtyard. Those fish were extremely large goldfish type creatures, weghing a good 5 or 6 pounds. They sold fish food for a dime and you could feed the fish and they would come up and eat from your hand and let you pet them. That was the only fun thing there for me. Woodruff was runing a pretty good Org when he was there. Many of the divisions were actually run on policy. One thing I liked was that the stats were posted in a room called the Org Information Center, OIC, which had its door always open and I would often walk in and check out how all the stats were doing. Quite a contrast to today when all stats are secrete.

I know a lot more if someone wants information on somebody I may know it, give me a try.
Lakey
 
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thetanic

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Yes. Thank's Thetanic. John and Claire Woodruff. That's them. Do you know if either or both of them are still Scientologists?

I expect so: they're both OT VIII completions, and according to Kristi's site, Claire has completed VIII three times.

That said, I don't know of any satellite site OC had near the org. Nor do I have any clue who Tim is.

I'm not sure they'll let John do more OT stuff (if there's any to do) given the indictment, but maybe I'm wrong.
 

palehorse

Patron
Just wondering if anyone here knew anyone there on staff back then. Lol.

Thats just about when and where I died on earth and was introduced to scientology heaven. And then was born again back onto earth. Moar laughter.

The only two individuals I recall (well, three) was a very pleasant young couple that operated a satelite facility (a mission?) about a 1/2 mile to a mile west of the org, and the gentlemen (whom was my immediate superior in the wog world heirarchy of high-level real estate games at the time that introduced me to scientology). His name was/is Tim. The names of the young couple I can't recall. John seems to come to mind for the male.

The couple were both OT 7s at the time, I believe. And he loved cars I recall.

Tim was a wonderfully gentle and unassuming man and had a wife that was equally and perfectly matched to his spirit. And I shall never forget (until memory fails me) of having lunch with Tim one innocent autumn day in a restaurant that only the Cream of the Crop of the Real Estate Corp of Southern California at the time would even dare to dream of patronizing. So to speak. Lol. And hearing his story about his envolvment with scientology.

Which story was almost spellbinding. But, I digress. Although I would love to find Tim, either free of scientology or happy with it in the now, I was just wondering if anyone here might know of the young couple that were most assuredly responsible for all of the up-stats of that org at that time. As now I realize, in hindsight, they were spiritually deceived and deceptful, but humanly beautiful still.

mm&i

Well, I am late to this thread by about 2 years. Was Tim a short, somewhat balding young man? If so, I recall him marrying one of my housemates, yet I have forgotten her name. She was quite a bit younger, with long dark brown hair.
 

GoNuclear

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Re: John and Claire Woodruff

I did make friends with a beautiful young woman, Kim Whitworth. She was only about 19 or 20 and I was in my 50's. We were on the Academy Levels together and did drills and kind of made friends. She dropped out of Med School at the University of Washington to join staff. Lakey

And to this day, I bet you are still kicking yourself for not getting in her pants.

Pete
 
... That said, I don't know of any satellite site OC had near the org. ...

At one time (1980) there was a satellite mission in anaheim (near Magnolia & the 5 Fwy i think). Woodruff's were running SOC and opened the anaheim facility for public courses and as a local feeder to the SOC facility's HGC.

They had Dave Worthen run it for them as ED. Dave was recently returned to staff from a period of absence (possible ethics trouble, something like that) and John was training him as a big money reg. Worthen was generally quite popular among staff, although I remember him as possessing all the worst qualities which Woodruff himself had along with Woodruff's ability to charm others. In particular, he was long on making promises and short on honoring them. He was also quite the 'good reg' in that he sold people packages without any regard to how that affected their actual well being, financial or otherwise, and recruited individuals to work under him at his mission who simply could not afford to do so. In other words, typical Co$ management tech.

The Woodruff's recruited Greg Moore & his wife about that time also, followed a little later by Terri Folis, formerly of GOLA.


Mark A. Baker
 

OutFO38

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I was there :D It was so fun back then. The place was really booming.
From what I know, John Woodruff was recruited to be the ED LAD and then later was busted from that post (don't know why). Seems like OC Scientologists have a negative view of him now.
 
I was there :D It was so fun back then. The place was really booming.
From what I know, John Woodruff was recruited to be the ED LAD and then later was busted from that post (don't know why). Seems like OC Scientologists have a negative view of him now.

JW got into 'ethics trouble'. That tends to lose one friends in high places. FWIW, he was playing a bit 'fast & loose' even while at SOC. It's a part of how he managed to take it over after the Kemps were expelled. However back then he was perceived as a winner and on the side of church management. That coupled with a charming & affable personna goes along way towards making friends in scientology.


Mark A. Baker
 

Elronius of Marcabia

Silver Meritorious Patron
At one time (1980) there was a satellite mission in anaheim (near Magnolia & the 5 Fwy i think). Woodruff's were running SOC and opened the anaheim facility for public courses and as a local feeder to the SOC facility's HGC.

They had Dave Worthen run it for them as ED. Dave was recently returned to staff from a period of absence (possible ethics trouble, something like that) and John was training him as a big money reg. Worthen was generally quite popular among staff, although I remember him as possessing all the worst qualities which Woodruff himself had along with Woodruff's ability to charm others. In particular, he was long on making promises and short on honoring them. He was also quite the 'good reg' in that he sold people packages without any regard to how that affected their actual well being, financial or otherwise, and recruited individuals to work under him at his mission who simply could not afford to do so. In other words, typical Co$ management tech.

The Woodruff's recruited Greg Moore & his wife about that time also, followed a little later by Terri Folis, formerly of GOLA.


Mark A. Baker

I knew Dave Worthen fairly well and helped him set that Anaheim place up, I once asked him who the Kemps were and
I thought he was gonna turn white, I think thats where his ethics troubles stemmed from, just a guess but i think he was
good friends with the Kemps and on staff during their time.

Charming guy Dave behind that dedicated glaze and yup the staff liked him, he was married for like 2 seconds to probably the most
popular and sparkling personality at Orange County at the time Patti Maier.

I quit a short time after that so that was a strange thing I never got to ask him about, although it probably would
have gotten the same blank no answer I got about the Kemps.

Woodruff struck me as a failed college boy yuppie type, yeah kinda charming in a way but I did'nt trust him
had that kind of used car salesman vibe to him.
 
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