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2014 IAS Event

Discussion in 'Europe Pickets and Protests' started by Axiom142, Oct 18, 2014.

  1. Lord Xenu

    Lord Xenu Patron Meritorious

    I like playing 400 seat regional venues ....:rock:
  2. xenusdad

    xenusdad Patron with Honors

    I just got a 24 hour ban on Facebook as I was reported as having violated guidelines. The good news is that I didn't so it should get sorted out pretty soon. OSA :duh:
  3. Axiom142

    Axiom142 Gold Meritorious Patron

  4. La La Lou Lou

    La La Lou Lou Crusader

    The guy's TRs really were poor. all of them, Janet's were not too bad, the Policeman's were OK and the SP's of course but the other chaps really looked afraid of being suppressed. They seem to be off the streets type converts or guys who came to the UK to get a job paying more than they could get in Eastern Europe, not knowing anything about anything. Sad sad people, I hope they all walk out, thank xenu I'm no longer in the church's clutches!
  5. Little David

    Little David Gold Meritorious Patron

    More Scientology photos:

  6. Osiris

    Osiris Patron with Honors

    Looks like no expense was spared ..... all the decorations ..... Tents ..... 30th Anniversary designed Props .... etc ... etc .... etc ....

    Looks like a Fairytale setting .... manicured lawns ..... strategic placed lighting etc ...
  7. Axiom142

    Axiom142 Gold Meritorious Patron

    It has been suggested that we should not have gone onto the cult’s property and that we opened ourselves up to being sued and all that crap.

    Well firstly, it clearly states on the cult’s website that they are ‘open to the public’.


    Secondly, I am a Lifetime Member of the IAS – my payments to the IAs were a little over $10,000 (US) – and so I expect to get all the benefits of that Lifetime membership, which includes, but is not limited to, the right to visit the scene of the annual IAS event held at St Hill.

    Thirdly, I would love it if they tried to sue me. I would eagerly look forward to having Laveau and co on the witness stand, explaining why they thought they could take $10,000 from me but subsequently (apparently) cancel my membership without my consent or even informing me of the fact.

    I can imagine a scene something like the following:

    Barrister acting for Axiom142 – So, Mrs Laveau – is it Mrs?

    Janet Laveau – Ms.

    B – I beg your pardon, Ms Laveau. Could you describe your position at the Cu- excuse me, The Church of Scientology, England and Wales Ltd. (registered as a business)?

    JL – I am the commanding officer of the Office of Special Affairs UK.

    B – Commanding officer? That hardly sounds like an ecclesiastical position. Why the military rank?

    JL – We are tough sons of bitches. We aren’t a turn the other cheek religion. We aren’t panty-waited, namby-pamby dilettantes. We are tigers and only tigers survive … (etc for 10 minutes solid).

    B (looking slightly bemused) – Yes, yes, I think we get the picture. What does OSA do exactly?

    JL – It forwards Command Intention by annihilating critics of CoB and the Church in general. We hunt down suppressives like ducks in a barrel and we ruin them utterly. We are merciless in our righteous anger, we make Captain Bligh look like a Sunday school teacher, we are relentless, we … (etc for 20 mins).

    B – I see. In fact, I think we can all see what the nature of OSA is. (a knowing smile directed at the jury elicits a barely-suppressed titter) Tell me, what is the definition of Lifetime membership of the IAS?

    JL – Lifetime refers to the physical existence of a meat body identity operated by a Thetan in this universe. It is deemed terminated by bodily death or spiritual death.

    B – Er, I see. And how would you determine spiritual death?

    JL – Anyone who is deemed an Enemy of Scientology is clearly dead in a spiritual sense. As the sole experts of all things spiritual, we reserve the right to solely determine which beings are dead in a spiritual sense.

    [30 mins of argument over the meaning of ‘spiritual death’]

    B – So you are claiming that my client, Axiom142, had his lifetime membership of the IAS terminated because it had naturally expired and therefore no refund was due?

    JL – Yes.

    B – And you felt no need to inform him of this fact?

    JL (looking smug) – Obviously not.

    B – This is ridiculous! You can’t make up your own definition of lifetime. My client is entitled to all the privileges of membership in the IAS.

    JL – No he isn’t. He is an SP, the worst type of being in the known universe. He is evil, he, he –

    B – That’s enough of that. You claim to have cancelled his membership. For what reason?

    JL – He broke the rules of membership.

    B – Specifically?

    JL - He was deemed to be a Suppressive Person.

    B – By whom?

    JL – By a fully open and transparent process – a Committee of Evidence.

    B - And when and where was this held?

    JL – That information is confidential.

    B (mutters something inaudible) – What specifically were his alleged crimes?

    JL – He broke our rules of membership.

    B – Which rules specifically?

    JL – He publically criticised us.

    B – I see. But doesn’t it say in The Creed of a Scientologist, “We of the Church believe - That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others.”? Therefore criticising the CoS, publically or not, is entirely consistent with your own ‘rules’?

    JL (looking flustered) – Obviously ‘freely’ doesn’t include being rude about the COB!

    B – Isn’t that rather cultic logic?

    JL (going very red)– How dare you! I’ve have enough of your counter-intentioned, c**k-sucking bulls**t, you, you, wog! You have no right to question me or my religion, I am so far above you on the tone scale you are not fit to even speak to me. You…. (etc for 25 minutes, until the men in white coats arrive and escort her away)

    B – Tempted, as I am to rest my case, I would now like to call our next witness…

  8. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Axiom142, Brilliant.

    I wonder if I could do the same with my Lifetime HASI membership which I bought in 1972? Here in the States....

    (Hubbard Association of Scientologists International) The official membership organization of the Cult PRIOR to the IAS.

    Last edited: Oct 23, 2014
  9. uncover

    uncover Gold Meritorious Patron

    Simply: no ..... by logic

    As the name says, your membership was from an association owned by El Con Hubbard ("Hubbards Association...."). Your membership was for the "Lifetime" (of course of the owner). Hubbard is dead, therefore your HASI-lifetime-membership is expired .... since 1986. :coolwink:
  10. eldritch cuckoo

    eldritch cuckoo brainslugged reptilian

    Is there really no clause in the contract for the lifetime membership that tells (in other words) "if you become SP-ish, it gets all cancelled"?

    Like the ex-Scientologist (FZ now, I think) who wanted back some money - from another pre-paid Scn "service". He got a letter which basically told that if he wanted this refund, he had to go into an org - but also that he wasn't allowed to enter any org! I don't know who won that (or will win), but is there no "SP clause" whatsoever in the contract for the lifetime IAS membership?
  11. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    I don't' know Uncover.....I think I have some Legal Ground here....IMO :p

    The Cult is still everything about Hubbard....and only far as I know....:eyeroll:

    Now, if the Cult claims....that they are now the Miscabage Association of Scientologists........perhaps you have a point...? :omg:
  12. uncover

    uncover Gold Meritorious Patron

    They dont need to claim anything.... you only have to follow the money - where does it end ?
    In Hubbards pocket, then its the "Hubbard Association..." or in Miscabages pocket.... ?
  13. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    My whole point was to follow the lead of Axiom142's far as physical access to Cult of Scientology property.

    Could I use my membership to help me in my protests at Flag....?

    I can walk anywhere in Clearwater on public property....but the Cult Security watch me and report me to Police, anytime I "step" on Cult owned property....

    But if I am a "member"....then that throws that situation into legal uncertainty....IMO.
  14. La La Lou Lou

    La La Lou Lou Crusader

    How many people have been literally ripped off Scn Honor rolls as well as having their lifetime memberships unofficially cancelled, without the dignity of a cancellation. Repayment should be automatic.

    Dear Mr Axiom,
    thankyou for your once active membership, however our policy states that we can no longer accept you as a member as you have been publicly criticising us. so we are therefore refunding the membership moneys that you donated, minus the annual fees for the years you have 'spent' I trust this is agreeable to you, I notice that you also have services paid for which as you will not be attending I am also refunding,
    sincerely Ivor Nolan-Maiyed Continental justice Chief UK, etc etc.
  15. uncover

    uncover Gold Meritorious Patron

    I already gave you the answer - the content of my postings are the arguments the cult will present in any legal dispute...
  16. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    And what, in you opinion, would be the arguments of opposing council? :)
  17. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    And in addition, he looks like a game show host from the 70s. His hair is wack.
  18. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    Actually, no. When I was the Membership Officer, the HASI Lifetimes were still honored because the truth is that ONLY HASI memberships are actually covered in LRH policy. Nowhere is the IAS mentioned. The IAS membership is not senior to the HASI. Truth is, though, hardly anyone still has one.
  19. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Thanks Sindy. :cheers2:

    Hubbard did write and talk about the HASI quite a is all in Cult "Policy Letters."
  20. Elronius of Marcabia

    Elronius of Marcabia Silver Meritorious Patron

    "Lets Make a Deal" starring Davey the Dwarf !!

    Behind door #1 an exciting all expense paid trip to the hole !!

    Behind door #2 a trip to LAX to make a complete ass out of yourself !!

    Behind door #3 A mental image picture of 6 weeks in The Bahamas !!