Round 2 occured this morning between Mitchell and CCHR's Shelley Wilkins at 11.25 this morning. She crapped on about the CCHR's history, claiming they are funded by "occasional" donations from "members" of the COS, but they don't get donations from the Church (right..), and that their members aren't all Scientologists (uh-huh), but that she is, and the CCHR is not an arm of the Church (sure...).
Mitchell really prodded her about their links. He said straight out "you're not a human rights group" and that when he spoke to the Church about CCHR, they insisted he contact them. Whilst asking her about the Chuch, she said he should call them!
When asking her about documented effects Anti-Depressants, she quotes a whole bunch of Cos Stats. He keeps demanding she provide her stats and sources, and attacks the CCHR's independence, and the fact that their only focus is CoS policy, rather than any other field of human rights advocacy.
When she admits that one of CCHR's reports is written by her, he points out the inherent conflict of interest in an avowedly anti-psychiatry group writing a report of Psychiatry.
He repeatedly askes her if she thinks there are any circumstances in which Anti-Depressants are acceptable. In turn Wilkins repeatedly parrots the Scieno line that people should go to a GP first to determine a physical cause of their problems. After demanding that she actually answer his question, she responds by saying it would be irresponsible of her to give medical advice (!!!!!!!), which Mitchell points out is exactly what the CCHR is doing.
He asks her one more time if she thinks anti-depressants are acceptable, she finally admits that she doesn't. She also claims most psychotic episodes are down to lack of sleep. He finishes the call by saying "I think we all really know what you're about."
In the following phone calls, one caller decries Wilkins as an idiot. The following caller (a man named James) starts with "I'm not a Scientologist Neil (uh-huh), but on this issue you are 100% wrong." and he calls them "alter-minding drugs" twice. That's that communication tech for you.
Bravo Neil. Someone should email him about Scieno bull-baiting though, because Shelley Wilkins did that through the whole interview. Still, as expected, Mitchell gave as good as he got.