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A comment re " The Shocking Truth behind the Scientology Xenu Story " by aaron saxton

the-ghostwhowalks

Patron with Honors
I would like to bring to your attention the satement in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6bjCtWMsOg that Hubbard believes that Xenu is still operating today - and that BT's are controlling people for destructive purposes.
This potentially raises many issues , and I would like to raise the following : How is it that the alleged biggest criminal mass implanter and murderer has the ability to do so much work as an "OT" ? - He alledgedly has been active committing even more crimes scince Inc 2 - Is'nt it true that the more overts one has the more "downscale" one becomes and ultimately loses ability ? - Is'nt that one of the ideas that attracted us to scn in the first place ? How is it that zenu gets to have such power ? What does he know that we don't ?
BT's manipulating people ? How is this so ? - Wouldn't a BT want to go off and get a body to join the rest of the kids at school ? If a BT could do that , he/she would have a ball as a human in a human world .
Now of course on one hand you say , " Well Ghostie , there is nothing to worry about as it's all BS " . But let's explore this hypothetically at least - I would to attempt to bring my favourite hobby horse to the table , and that is the subject of exteriorization /working communicating without a body - It has allways intrigued me that Hubbard dropped this subject - apparently with little or no explanation .
Perhaps ( and only perhaps , as I know there are good folk reading this from all viewpoints and I am quite prepared to be wrong ) that Hubbard KNEW that achieving an exterior operating state regardless of case or ethic level was quite possible - or even likely if one ran the appropriate processes long enough. It was NOT a case of "more resarch to be done - we will come back to it later" . Imagine if the creepiest person became exterior and able to work and communicate without a body - "Well they couldn't because they have'nt done the bridge and got their ethics in etc " some may say - Yet it appears that Hubbard believes that Xenu can do and does do just that .....

I personally don't believe in Xenu or Inc 2 - but there is my "hypothetical" , and at the moment , I have no reason to disbelieve what aaron is saying in his video . Also , I hope and pray that someone will professionally reasearch the area of exteriorization processes , for I believe we are in for some wonderful discoveries - thanks for reading this post- GWW.
 
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the-ghostwhowalks

Patron with Honors
I thought I'd comment on my own post !

Well , It's been a while and no one has commented on this post , I was hoping a thread may develop - no such luck -a bit unusual, but that's the way it goes ! :confused2:
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
The Ghost, dont take it personally, I think if youde have linked in the video Id have known what you were talking about and might have commented.
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
The question for me has always been; 'Up till Incident II, the people weren't implanted with all the R6 sheit. Yet, they were so far from Clear and OT that they actually *elected* Xenu, before he froze them and blew them up. So, how's that happen? What good are Clear and OT if you're still a putz?'

Zinj
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
Well, it's going to be kind of pointless to try to discuss the 'bankers' and 'jews' with Public Scientologists, because, as Aaron states, they don't *know* this policy letter. They're not allowed to see it. Who is?

But, I'd like to point out that it's completely in keeping with the 2nd half of Battlefield Earth, which I doubt will be made as a movie :)

Zinj
 

the-ghostwhowalks

Patron with Honors
It's NOT the banker bit or the jewish bit I am on about

It's the idea that Hubbard supposedly believes that Zenu can influence people and so can BT's - how could such low scale beings do this ? - If they can , then there may be more to the inherent abilities of beings / spirits , as the body of my post attempts to suggest...
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
The question for me has always been; 'Up till Incident II, the people weren't implanted with all the R6 sheit. Yet, they were so far from Clear and OT that they actually *elected* Xenu, before he froze them and blew them up. So, how's that happen? What good are Clear and OT if you're still a putz?'

Zinj

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: :lol: :thumbsup:
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
Wrong believed that we were all degraded being, he and his nemisis were real OT's and the rest of us just extras on the set.

He was a miserable tosser.

He was just playing with us, I dont know why he bothered, we dont exist, we were just figments of his imagination.
 

the-ghostwhowalks

Patron with Honors
Well , I guess that's quite possible ...

I dont know if you have contemplated what I'm on about , however - Are you really in Bulgaria ?
 

smartone

My Own Boss
Well, it's going to be kind of pointless to try to discuss the 'bankers' and 'jews' with Public Scientologists, because, as Aaron states, they don't *know* this policy letter. They're not allowed to see it. Who is?

But, I'd like to point out that it's completely in keeping with the 2nd half of Battlefield Earth, which I doubt will be made as a movie :)

Zinj

And I thought there was "no hidden data line" :unsure:
 

the-ghostwhowalks

Patron with Honors
yeah - No hidden data line

Xenu can operate at a distance controlling people and we can't ? - The processes that could teach / show us how to do this were dropped , Yet a low life like Zenu or his BT's or similiar ilk can and do these things ? Have we been cheated out of operating exterior for 50 years ? Is what we are looking for in those processes of the early fifties ? - In wonder...:melodramatic:
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
Well theres speculation, lovely!

There's many many expat people living in Bulgaria, and a lot of Brits. It's cheap, quiet and cheap. My three bed house with stables and outhouses cost about 1000 dollars. A bottle of wine costs about a dollar. The local people are friendly, and so helpful.

On the subject though, Wrong Cupboard knowing that we mere mortals are so degraded also would know that our BT's are bigger than us, so are vitally important. He was twisted.
 

the-ghostwhowalks

Patron with Honors
wow ! - I love sunnybeach ! Are you near there ?

I like your point that we were just "extras on the set" -Was that a $1000 a month rent or did you get an amazing bargain as houses are so cheap ? - Is your internet speed up to scratch ?
 

Ladybird

Silver Meritorious Patron
Ghostie, on OTVII you find out you mocked up all your BTs so what is the point of discussing them?

Here are a few more zingers from mankinds greatest jester:

The EP of Clear: I mocked up my own reactive mind. (Of course you wouldn't have known you had one if the old joker hadn't made up all those funnies about engrams, past lives, AAs and basic basic, etc.)

The EP of OT7: I mocked up my own BTs. ( You wouldn't have imagined those either without his hilarious rendition of the Sci Fi xenu story, which he told with a straight face, only laughing behind your back all the way to the bank.)

And of course the ever popular "Highest Holy Level" OT8, where you find out you mocked it all up. (But are still kept on the edge of your seat by the buffoonery of being assured that "History of Man" holds the TRUE keys to the universe.)

Keep it in your pants, please (your WALLET, sheesh!) for this newest voyage of discovery into the outer limits of mans gullibility.

This truly is an epic journey "L. Reel-em-in Huckster has devised for his enjoyment at your expense.

So for those of you who still don't get the joke, here are a couple of Ladybirds favorite rundowns: (at a cost considerably less than $360,000.00)

The EP of scientology is: I mocked up my own enemies.

The EP of SP is: I am now free from scientology and can clearly see reality.
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
I think Im an SP completion!

I might celebrate by going to Sunnybeach, no perhaps not it's like a cross between Blackpool and Las Vegas, and it's a hell of a long ride, even if I could find a gypsy with a horse and cart that wants to go to the sea side, this time of year. Tacky place, no mud, no cow dung yech!
 
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