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Wishing you both the best outcome, Fixer!

Here is a good resource for anyone dealing with Asperger's syndrome. It is far more common than you might think. :)

http://grasp.org/

I have several dear friends in my life (both male and female) who have Asperger's syndrome...they are all living happy, healthy, productive lives, although slightly out of the mainstream of American lifestyles, and I love them to bits, also! :)

It just takes patience and a whole lot of understanding to interact and relate with them in a fashion and to a degree that they can handle well. God bless you and your son! :rose: :rose: :love2:
 
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The_Fixer

Class Clown
Thanks you for your post Fixer and I'm so happy your son is improving. I also want to thank you because your post made me realise something.

Yesterday I was visiting with Jenni With an Eye and we were taking about Scn scars, those bits of so called tech that are still sitting under the skin. One of them was wondering what you had done wrong to pull something in when things aren't going right.

When I started reading your post I felt myself gasping in horror internally that your son was in "psych" hands but as I kept reading and you explained that everything was OK and nothing evil was happening I realised that this is one of my scars. Sometimes spotting these things is hard as they are so deep inside you you don't realise they're there.

So, :bighug: to you and your son Fixer.

Hi Perty, :wink: and thank you.

You raise an interesting point there, one that has been going through my mind for some time now. We were all indocrinated in the Co$ speak and doublethink. After I left, a lot of these stayed with me. For instance, the "pulled it in" and anti gay attitudes. Psychiatry was a big one as well. It took many years for me to dismiss these and redevelop my own thinking and to rediscover my own truths.

Even on this board and some others as well, there are a number of people who seem to hold onto the old belief system without any valid reason. My assumption here is that they have not really let the old ways go and in some ways are still stuck in their past. Even the ex SO members seem to carry the old aggressions to this day, despite their aversions to the church.

I once started a thread on another board "How many people still cling to the old Scientology ways?" quite some time ago. To date, it has received no replies. I have observed on this board several people who would fit that description.

Many scars do indeed run deep.
 

The_Fixer

Class Clown
As an update to those who are interested, my son is still an inpatient. He may be in for another week or so.

They are working with his meds and he has become more responsive and beginning to take an interest again.

I visited him this afternoon and had a good conversation with him.

I haven't seen him smile like he did for some time now. The sun is starting to shine.

When he was first assigned to his ward we went in with him. It was a very confronting experience to see all those people with their myriad of issues. My heart sort of stopped at that moment and sank like a stone and I thought "I'm leaving my boy in here? God, no..."

Over the last couple of visits, I began to see the other patients as people, not SP's or PTS's. Just people with their problems. It has been quite a learning curve for me as well. Made me think how damn lucky we are to have our sanity.
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
The Fixer, I recognise what you say about caring people in the health service dealing with people with learning difficulties and anxiety issues. People that do this work are not there for the money as many of them would get more in a cleaning job, they are there from a sense of duty.

However Australia and Europe is a different scene from the American model. If you google things like self harming or anxiety or even Asperger's you'll have helpful stuff come up, but you'll also find aggressively but covert forums and sites there only to get paying patients, or sell cd's and books. There are tests you can do for free that are heavily weighted to make it seem like you are fatally affected by stuff with phone numbers of specialists that are there to take your money and some of these are awful. These remind me of the OCA, as a way of getting victims. One forum post was by a teenager worried that they might have PTSD because they saw their father getting changed. When I posted that nudity in itself was not harmful my post was pulled by the moderators. It soon became obvious it was a site to get in money. Make the kids make mountains out of mole hills then sort it out with a long course of counselling, that their parents would pay for. I have nothing against Psychiatry only the commercial industry.
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
The Fixer, I was wondering about you saying how your son's smiling now. Do you think it could be that he's enjoying socialising in a safe environment. People don't always understand Aspies and there he is with people that do understand, even if he stands too close to people or talks too loudly or goes on a bit too much about the subject he's interested in.

Just a thought, perhaps when he's out you could get him to join some social group. There are also Aspie forums on line.
 

The_Fixer

Class Clown
The Fixer, I recognise what you say about caring people in the health service dealing with people with learning difficulties and anxiety issues. People that do this work are not there for the money as many of them would get more in a cleaning job, they are there from a sense of duty.

However Australia and Europe is a different scene from the American model. If you google things like self harming or anxiety or even Asperger's you'll have helpful stuff come up, but you'll also find aggressively but covert forums and sites there only to get paying patients, or sell cd's and books. There are tests you can do for free that are heavily weighted to make it seem like you are fatally affected by stuff with phone numbers of specialists that are there to take your money and some of these are awful. These remind me of the OCA, as a way of getting victims. One forum post was by a teenager worried that they might have PTSD because they saw their father getting changed. When I posted that nudity in itself was not harmful my post was pulled by the moderators. It soon became obvious it was a site to get in money. Make the kids make mountains out of mole hills then sort it out with a long course of counselling, that their parents would pay for. I have nothing against Psychiatry only the commercial industry.

Unfortunately I cannot say much about the American model other than what I see in the movies, and that would be pretty suspect as well.

There are money grubbers and scamsters everywhere in this world. Idealists can be nearly as bad as well. I agree with what you're getting at here. Things do get a bit carried away at times.

I can remember a counsellinng session for my son many years ago with my ex wife and I. Us as parents didn't agree about a lot of things, but we saw this psychologist was crap. You get them too. I guess it's hard, but we learn to keep our wits about us and try to practice common sense where we can. I'm not perfect and I do slip up at times, but I try. The psychologist we saw was an avant garde feminist. I don't know about you guys, but if I see an "ie" or "ist" on the end of their name (eg feminist, greenie, activist, etc), I'm instantly suspicious of what they have to say. This woman was only interested in pushing mothers issues and not my son's. My ex wasn't too impressed either.
But that's all another story for another time.

The Fixer, I was wondering about you saying how your son's smiling now. Do you think it could be that he's enjoying socialising in a safe environment. People don't always understand Aspies and there he is with people that do understand, even if he stands too close to people or talks too loudly or goes on a bit too much about the subject he's interested in.

Just a thought, perhaps when he's out you could get him to join some social group. There are also Aspie forums on line.

He has been researching Aspies and I have been as well. I am trying to point him towards these and he seems to be interested.

I think he is smiling because he is out of the world for some "space" and quiet. He wasn't so happy today, but it's just another day. It's a work in progress. My wife and girls are not happy with him at the moment because of what he has done, but time can be a good healer. The psychs will want us all to get together for a family meeting soon so maybe we can work it all out there?

Many thanks for your thoughts Lou.
 

Mick Wenlock

Admin Emeritus (retired)
Fixer,

My Daughter is Certified Master Teacher for the deaf , blind and special needs children. Some of the children she teaches by sign language are not only deaf or blind but also have Asperger's syndrome.

I have sat in on her classes from time to time and watched her teach and, through her, had lunch with and chat with the kids. It is a remarkable and Heart stirring and amazing thing to see. Not only is there tremendous real Tech and Science to teach these children, but, there are also Angels like my Daughter that love, care about and devote their lives to helping these children have a better life. I also thought to myself during those hours that this is a World of People that Scn knows nothing about, doesn’t want to know anything about and pretends to care about.

There is a World of Highly Competent, Dedicated and very skilled Professional’s and Loving Families daily “walking the walk” to help folks that Scn, in effect, spits on. Quite honestly, I found in my conversations with and observing these children that they were fascinating, funny, sincere and giving their best to learn and live…they were Alive and Life emanated from them same as thee and me.

My Very Best Wishes to You and Your Son, :yes:

Face :)


Fixer - our sone is now 32, he was born with Congenital Rubella Syndrome and is legally deaf and blind and suffers from several other conditions. Thanks to the Sea Org we got to experience how three different countries dealt with the challenges. The worst? England/Britain by far. They had nothing in the way of placement for a child with those kind of handicaps and told us it would be a year or two before there were any possibilities. The best? By a nose - Denmark, they are swift and efficient and Sean was absorbed into the system (he was born in Denmark, he is a British citizen) , the middle one is the USA. One thing was common to both the US and Denmark - the caring people. The UK doe shave caring people and we did manage to meet some of them later (SENSE) but the system doesn;t connect you to them immediately.

Face - just wanted to say that your daughter seems to be one of those people who just bring a whole light to the subject of special education or the needs of the handicapped. Such people are just amazing. Sean, in his final year of HIgh School (at Thomas Jefferson High School in Denver) happened to have one of the finest special ed teachers I have ever seen. Let me set the picture for you - the Special ed class at TJ was, of course, in the basement. Out of the way of the 'real' students (I suppose) the class had five special needs young adults, none of whom had the same type of disability. There was the teacher and one full time aide and a part time aide Jill Lauchle was the teacher, Martha Reardon the aide and those two people ran an upbeat, friendly supportive and learning classroom.

I have been constantly amazed throughout our journey at the sheer amount of great people who work in the arena of special education and special needs.

Good luck to you and your son, Fixer.
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
Mick, you're right, in the UK it just depends on how clued up the council is. Usually big rooms, oppressive soulless and institutional, full of 'special needs' children. They should have noticed the words, special needs, surely, means you don't shove everyone in the same room despite their abilities and with one supervisor who doesn't know what he's doing, let alone anyone else.

I have seen people with pretty severe difficulties able to support themselves, it depends on the school and attention they get. When their needs are dealt with they can move forward gain confidence and actually learn useful skills and get jobs. I have also seen a girl who did great at school, but had a boyfriend and parents who did everything for her, she lost her ability to cook and to read and spent most of her life watching TV.

In the Danish system they were able to work nearly one worker to each child. They do have high taxes but they also get the benefits. In the UK there's fairly high taxes but much of the money is wasted on having more execs than workers.

Much of the actual 'work' done by unpaid volunteers. Councils will use who ever is cheapest and not look for results.

The Fixer, I think it's great that your son is doing the research, it's always tempting to do everything you can do, but it's not helpful. He has to be able to stand on his own feet. Many parents make things worse by not letting their kids be independent. You won't always be there, so the skills they have to learn are the ones that give them the power to survive without you. Harsh, but true.
 

The_Fixer

Class Clown
Fixer - our sone is now 32, he was born with Congenital Rubella Syndrome and is legally deaf and blind and suffers from several other conditions. Thanks to the Sea Org we got to experience how three different countries dealt with the challenges. The worst? England/Britain by far. They had nothing in the way of placement for a child with those kind of handicaps and told us it would be a year or two before there were any possibilities. The best? By a nose - Denmark, they are swift and efficient and Sean was absorbed into the system (he was born in Denmark, he is a British citizen) , the middle one is the USA. One thing was common to both the US and Denmark - the caring people. The UK doe shave caring people and we did manage to meet some of them later (SENSE) but the system doesn;t connect you to them immediately.
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Good luck to you and your son, Fixer.

Thanks Mick. I have a Danish friend who told me once that taxes in Denmark are amongst the highest in the world, but a lot of it comes back in services. He went on to say that if you have disabilities in the family, it is a pretty good country to be in.

Interesting observation. I would have thought the US would be the worst for disability services and not the UK, from what I thought I knew of their health systems.

Support is not always available here readily either. We have to know where to look and what questions to ask to get anywhere at times. Sometimes it falls into your lap, other times it's full on researching...

It is hard enough on the kids going through their situation. I don't know about you guys, the stresses being the parents are tough enough as well. At least we have our faculties to help deal with it. Did you ever feel the sense of guilt for your child not being *normal* and not being able to fix it for them?

<snip>The Fixer, I think it's great that your son is doing the research, it's always tempting to do everything you can do, but it's not helpful. He has to be able to stand on his own feet. Many parents make things worse by not letting their kids be independent. You won't always be there, so the skills they have to learn are the ones that give them the power to survive without you. Harsh, but true.

Hi Lou, my research is mainly for my own benefit. For the most part he is ahead of me there and I only point out some things that he may have missed as his impatience tends to make him gloss over and miss things occasionally.

His IQ was recently tested with a result of 148. So I think he is capable of research, just the coping with life part is the challenge for him.

I agree totally with the point you are making there. I try to include him in researching to get him started and back off a bit so he can follow it through.

Now to teach my daughter the art of fixing her own car....
 

La La Lou Lou

Crusader
Fixer, best of luck with the car/daughter thing, that does sound like a challenge.:eyeroll:

Though I have seen a few ladies who know their way round a car pretty well. I've also seen the satisfied look of a young lady who's just fixed her car when a guy strolled over to help the ''poor little lady'' out, and watching him loose his smug patronising smirk. She is devastatingly pretty and a black belt, too.
 
Just in case anyone missed it: GRASP (The Global and Regional Asperger Partnership) is an online resource and community for folks on the Autism Spectrum, especially Aspies. (What many people with Asperger's syndrome here in the US prefer to call themselves. They call those of us not on the spectrum NT's or Neuro-Typicals! :) ). It was started by an Aspie who is also an author and lecturer, John Michael Carley. Just like there is "Deaf culture" here in the US, there is starting to be an awareness of "Aspie culture", too.

It also has elements for teachers, clinicians and researchers, as well as family members. It has helped me a lot in my work with people. :thumbsup:

GRASP's Mission: "GRASP’s mission is to improve the lives of adults and teens on the autism spectrum through community outreach, peer supports, education, and advocacy."

Do give it a look...Fixer, your son might enjoy the threaded discussions or chats with other Aspies. (You might like connecting with other Parents, or reading the newsletters.) :)

http://grasp.org/
 

Moosejewels

Patron Meritorious
My son is 25 and suffers from Aspergers syndrome. He is in the psych wards at the moment whilst they handle his other issues and try to get him back on track. In short, they all care.

Progress so far:

:omg:No shock treatment :omg:

:omg: No debilitating psych drugs :omg:

:omg: No lobotomy scheduled :omg:

:omg: He is not going to die in there with the industry of death in charge.:omg:

:thumbsup:They talk to him. He is on drugs, but only the ones that help ease the stress until he can cope himself. He was about to do himself in very soon. He was put in because he was cutting himself.

I am grateful for the psychiatric intervention. I have also found everyone involved is keen to stabilise him and get him back into a position where he can cope by himself and move ahead.

I have found no evidence of Tom Cruise's hate spew about "the industry of death". Obviously he has been reading LRH's "parrot sheets".

Does anyone who was involved with Scientology ever found a line that really cared and helped as well? Meaning that in a practical sense.

Incidentally, all this help and treatment is free of charge under Australia's public health system. That part would read as the ultimate horror story to the Co$.

Last year, he mentioned he was interested in looking at Scientology. When my family told me that I went - ":omg::nervous::angry::melodramatic::duh:", etc.

When I finally got to him a couple of weeks later, I asked him about it and he told me they were a pack of crazy wankers and wouldn't go near them. He hadn't even heard of OCMB or ESMB yet. I was proud that he had figured it out on his own.

There you go Davey boy, even the crazy ones think you're a pack of fuckheads as well! My boy ain't all that crazy after all! Love him to bits.

Best of luck to you and your son
 

The_Fixer

Class Clown
Fixer, best of luck with the car/daughter thing, that does sound like a challenge.:eyeroll:

Though I have seen a few ladies who know their way round a car pretty well. I've also seen the satisfied look of a young lady who's just fixed her car when a guy strolled over to help the ''poor little lady'' out, and watching him loose his smug patronising smirk. She is devastatingly pretty and a black belt, too.

LOL. Strangely enough, my daughter (20) does show a little interest as she is a bit of a tomboy. But hey, sex doesn't matter, it's the interest that is the key. If she wants to know, I'll show her what I can.
 

The_Fixer

Class Clown
Update time

OK guys, there have been a few things happening.

My son is back in the psych ward under watch. He tried to kill himself Thursday night. Almost suceeded.

The trigger was his girlfriend decided to call it quits, as the stress was taking over as his conditions steadily worsened. She was talking to him on the phone and felt something was odd about him and she went over to check him out. He was unconcious on the floor when she arrived. He had taken about 30 Xanex tablets with a bottle of Southern Comfort. She called the ambulance just in time. He was just coming out of last effects Saturday when I visited him.

He was very angry he was found. At that time he was hoping for another chance to finish the job. When I spoke to him he was Robbie one moment and another entity the next. That's the one I wanted to punch out. But I didn't, thankfully.

There has been a lot going on since he was released last time. He didn't want to move back with us, opting to move into transitional lodgings. He said it would help to get set up more quickly that way than if he was living with us.

Xmas night he came over. He went to the bathroom and it went quiet. My sister in law and daughter went inside and found him coming out of our bedroom with some money he had just lifted from my wife's purse. Shit. After he went home, we were informed about it. The wife has banned him from our house now. We have not cut him off, just he cannot come to the house anymore, at least for the time being. We just cannot trust him anymore.

He came over a couple of weeks before Xmas and stole his present. It was the only thing to go missing and it had his name on it. We just knew it was him.

As we found out recently, he had been over my ex's family Xmas dinner and stole a bottle of wine and someone's maglite torch, a big one. Denied everything. Got everyone doubting about accusing him.

My ex went to sort out some stuff for him whilst he was in hospital and found some of the stolen stuff.

He still has to face court on more stealing charges, has collection people after him for money. We are getting all his mail here, he won’t change his address. We can’t believe much of what he tells us as it is mostly lies.

Apparently he tried to kill himself again in the ward. Don’t know many details there yet.

Come Monday, the hospital discharged him. WTF? He’s still high risk.

Got a call last night from my ex. He has OD’d again and is back in hospital.

I was quite distressed (along with the family) last week about all this, now I’m angry with him. We all are.

My family has decided to support him, not enable him anymore. He is to be keep at a certain distance (emotionally), as we can’t take the stress he spreads. I haven’t been up to see him yet. I’m too angry to face it just yet.

I know he is hurting, but he refuses to take charge and get on with things. Even the support network around him can’t do much as he thinks he’s above that.....and it’s like he spits in their faces.

He has become like a heroin addict that has to be evicted from the family until he dries out.

Excuse me. I just gotta go and kick the shit out of something.
 
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Gottabrain

Guest
Re: Update time

OK guys, there have been a few things happening.

My son is back in the psych ward under watch. He tried to kill himself Thursday night. Almost suceeded.
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He has become like a heroin addict that has to be evicted from the family until he dries out.

Excuse me. I just gotta go and kick the shit out of something.

Please see my post below.
 
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Gottabrain

Guest
Didn't see the earlier post, that changes things a bit, doesn't it?

What drugs was your son given for the Asperger's?

I am in touch with a young man's family and this young man had Asperger's and was VERY SUCCESSFULLY TREATED.

The psychiatric drugs saved his life, his sanity, his family's. NOTHING worked before then.

Only drawback was he gained a lot of weight. Drugs were adjusted a bit and he has lost some of the excess weight and is still losing it.

I am in recent touch with an older man who also has Asperger's but has not been treated with psychiatric drugs of any kind. He is kept in a routine with lots of limitations. He finds time alone in his room with others around the house to be comforting. He loves routines. Anything harmful is kept away from him - he can be destructive though not personally so. He takes a huge amount of personal attention and care, far too much.

He is incapable of normal adult relations. He likes his dog but cannot be trusted to care for her properly. He can't be trusted to do any one good thing consistently, he often creates potentially dangerous fire conditions and he is a chronic, excellent liar.

My opinion is he and everyone else would be much better off if he were on the psychiatric drugs. He has not improved without them - others have just learned better ways of dealing with him.
 

Ogsonofgroo

Crusader
Aw man! :cry:

Never ever stop all around him from telling him how much he is loved (no matter what~unconditionally), and welcome (even if is isn't quite).
I lost my brother almost 40 years ago, he was my best friend, but convinced himself that the only way out was to be really out. It devastates me to this day, (and pretty much destroyed my family for years), and the list of 'if only if's' is so large it has been an invisible chain on my virual foot and soul.
I am so sorry to hear of this, but take heart, with your love and respect and that of the family, decent doctors and community supprt, there is hope.
I hope you are looking for any resources, community or gov't, I think you must find someone who councels young people with an understanding of cult influences, addictions, depression.
All my projected heart to ya good person, please keep us in the loop eh.

Respectfully,

Ogs

:hug:
 

The_Fixer

Class Clown
Didn't see the earlier post, that changes things a bit, doesn't it?

What drugs was your son given for the Asperger's?

I am in touch with a young man's family and this young man had Asperger's and was VERY SUCCESSFULLY TREATED.

The psychiatric drugs saved his life, his sanity, his family's. NOTHING worked before then.

Only drawback was he gained a lot of weight. Drugs were adjusted a bit and he has lost some of the excess weight and is still losing it.

I am in recent touch with an older man who also has Asperger's but has not been treated with psychiatric drugs of any kind. He is kept in a routine with lots of limitations. He finds time alone in his room with others around the house to be comforting. He loves routines. Anything harmful is kept away from him - he can be destructive though not personally so. He takes a huge amount of personal attention and care, far too much.

He is incapable of normal adult relations. He likes his dog but cannot be trusted to care for her properly. He can't be trusted to do any one good thing consistently, he often creates potentially dangerous fire conditions and he is a chronic, excellent liar.

My opinion is he and everyone else would be much better off if he were on the psychiatric drugs. He has not improved without them - others have just learned better ways of dealing with him.

Thanks GB.

The first stay in hospital diagnosed him with an anxiety disorder with poor coping skills. When I asked about the Asperger's, they just told me that they don't diagnose those kind of things there. I assume that is for the more privatised sector to address.

They prescribed him drugs can't remember the first lot just now, then it got changed - he told us lithium - for managing the anxiety. He was on Xanex which they took him off. He was abusing it and was getting addicted to it.

Problem here is that he won't stop abusing his meds and/or alcohol which keeps compounding the issues.

So it seems he's not getting a complete management plan from the hospital, a question of affordability comes into it as well to take things further.

For the moment, we have to jump the current hurdles before we start to look outside where we are.
 
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Gottabrain

Guest
Fixer, Asperger's is the most complex and weird mental illness I have ever dealt with.

You can't leave someone with Asperger's alone on their own, unsupervised. Your wife is going to just have to come to terms with this, just as you must come to terms with the fact that for those that have it severely - as your son - the psychiatric drugs are the only remedy beyond choosing to give up your lives to look after him.

He is your son. You are responsible for him and this compromising with your wife routine or compromising to keep him off any psych drugs is just NOT working. He needs supervision. With the correct drugs he can be happy and have a manageable life and so can you and so can your wife. No doubt he hasn't been taking them - that's clear from all that has occurred since.

It also sounds like you don't know much personally about Asperger's.

Those with Asperger's FIXATE on things. They obsess. The g/f is bad, bad news because Asperger's people can't handle adult relationships. With Asperger's, the "trigger" does NOT resolve with destimulation - once that first relationship loss happens, you get Asperger's in full and now he's got it in full for the rest of his life. Guess what? He's going to fixate on this g/f forever unless he finds something else to fixate on. That means every time they fight, it's a suicide attempt.

It doesn't "get better". It doesn't "go away". You can have short periods of what appears like sanity, but the ups and down will ALWAYS happen if he's not on his medication. Full blown Asperger's sufferers can't be trusted to handle money, finances, property or relationships, with or without the drugs. At LEAST with the drugs they can carry on life happily and in a more normal way and respect social rules and laws. You need to personally ensure he takes his pills EVERY DAY. His home area needs to be as organised and simple as possible. He needs supervision. There is no getting around this.

The other choice is continuing his misery, yours, your wife's and every other life in which he causes destruction. Would you really do all this over some idea that psychiatric meds are bad for him? Stop compromising with everyone. You need to take full responsibility for him, including his finances and that he has a daily routine. You cannot let him out on his own as if he is an adult and it is up to you to ensure your wife understands this.
 
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Gottabrain

Guest
Thanks GB.

The first stay in hospital diagnosed him with an anxiety disorder with poor coping skills. When I asked about the Asperger's, they just told me that they don't diagnose those kind of things there. I assume that is for the more privatised sector to address.

They prescribed him drugs can't remember the first lot just now, then it got changed - he told us lithium - for managing the anxiety. He was on Xanex which they took him off. He was abusing it and was getting addicted to it.

Problem here is that he won't stop abusing his meds and/or alcohol which keeps compounding the issues.

So it seems he's not getting a complete management plan from the hospital, a question of affordability comes into it as well to take things further.

For the moment, we have to jump the current hurdles before we start to look outside where we are.

I wrote the other post before I saw your post here.

You need to complain immediately about the hospital's inadequate handling. Hospitals have experts on staff and they can give referrals as well. To release him like that is good cause for complaint. Go over their heads if you need to do so.

Yes, it's difficult to get Asperger's diagnosed. Friggin' takes years and dozens of people, it seems.

What you can do immediately is complete control. He stays in a room with a lock for a few hours at a time when he's agitated and you send him there and lock it but ensure he has all he needs while there (poddy chair, refrigerator, etc.). The room has to be his safe place and the way he likes it and you need to ensure there is nothing there with which he can hurt himself.

You take over his finances.

You keep everything low key around him. Nothing excitable.

You keep him busy busy busy - he can go to AA meetings day and night. Those work well, believe it or not. The older male with Asperger's goes to them constantly. Gives him something social to do, keeps him off the alcohol and you can arrange a buddy there to assure you that he actually shows to the meetings, too.

When he's not busy, he's alone in his room with others nearby.

Keep him from talking to the g/f, even if you have to take his phone. Get him involved in something he likes doing instead and maybe you can get him to fixate elsewhere, at least for a little while.

Would you like me to find out the exact drugs the young man with Asperger's who is doing well is on? I can let you know in 24 hrs.

ADDED - You need to remember that those with severe Asperger's don't get it that people are reacting angrily to them because of their behaviours. They do not see themselves as responsible for these negative effects at all, don't connect behaviour with consequences and you can't teach them this, either. They do EVERYthing because of emotion. They do it because they feel like doing it or they don't feel like doing it. So if you are happy and nice, he will be more responsive. If not, the results are really ugly.
 
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