A Live Unit & Private Parts

[Vinaire]

Ok, here is "the hypnotism". - One cannot exist without the Whole. The whole is what one belongs to, whether he's willing to admit or not.

For the Whole it takes at least TWO.

When you are alone, you may be "hypnotized" by another by his resemblance of the Whole to you (when you connect with him/her).

Stray cats and dogs are "hypnotized" by humans, just like humans are "hypnotized" by some philosophy and philosopher.

I guess it's that Law of Attraction at work.


Just some random thoughts for you, Vinaire, to consider and settle down a bit in your endless philosophical search.

That's a speculation just like what you are accusing me of.

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[VaD]

That's a speculation just like what you are accusing me of.

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Accusing?

- Well, Vinaire, it's quite a speculation ON YOUR PART there.

 

[VaD]

See *Thesaurus* on the word "think" here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/think
("speculate" is there as well)

 

[Vinaire]

Accusing?

- Well, Vinaire, it's quite a speculation ON YOUR PART there.

Haha!

 

[Vinaire]

See *Thesaurus* on the word "think" here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/think
("speculate" is there as well)

Good! So when are you going to stop thinking and speculating now that you know (I presume) what these actions are?

Do you grasp the difference between thinking and looking?

Some people just seem to think with their private parts (I don't mean that you do that).

 

[Kutta]

I think that most females have fixed attention on private parts too but in a different way.

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Please explain. Please be explicit. How different? In what way different?

 

[VaD]

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[Vinaire]

Please explain. Please be explicit. How different? In what way different?

Women are more methodical then men. They want a secure, non-violent, and pleasant environment before using their private parts. Most love motherhood. I have a suspicion that they love feeding a baby. The physical sensation is just lovely.

Men are just driven to plant their seed. They don'r care for a secure, non-violent, and pleasant environment as women do, because they are not prgrammed to carry, bear and nourish a child.

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[uniquemand]

Women are more methodical then men. They want a secure, non-violent, and pleasant environment before using their private parts. Most love motherhood. I have a suspicion that they love feeding a baby. The physical sensation is just lovely.

Men are just driven to plant their seed. They don'r care for a secure, non-violent, and pleasant environment as women do, because they are not prgrammed to carry, bear and nourish a child.

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The above is bullshit.

Every person is different. Some women love violence. Some men love violence. It is their element. Some men are nurturers, some women are nurturers.

There is certainly a social "archetype" that women are "supposed" to conform to, but while they MAY have done so during some periods of history, or in some societies, thanks be to Allah they don't do it HERE, NOW.

 

[Vinaire]

The above is bullshit.

Every person is different. Some women love violence. Some men love violence. It is their element. Some men are nurturers, some women are nurturers.

There is certainly a social "archetype" that women are "supposed" to conform to, but while they MAY have done so during some periods of history, or in some societies, thanks be to Allah they don't do it HERE, NOW.

People may be different because of later layers of programming. I am looking more at fundamentals.

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[Kutta]

Women are more methodical then men. They want a secure, non-violent, and pleasant environment before using their private parts. Most love motherhood. I have a suspicion that they love feeding a baby. The physical sensation is just lovely.

Men are just driven to plant their seed. They don'r care for a secure, non-violent, and pleasant environment as women do, because they are not prgrammed to carry, bear and nourish a child.

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'Methodical' doesn't describe what you are referring to Vinny, imo. But, yes, I think most women would not choose the back seat of a car, for eg, as an ideal place to share their private parts. Especially if the gear lever gets in the way. Nor would too hot, too cold, or too public an environment be conducive to optimal pleasure.

But at a more fundamental level, perhaps pleasure is not the operative impulse. Perhaps it is the safety, protection, and self preservation of the nurturer of potential offspring. Of course men can be nurturers and many are wonderful in that role, but they are not required to supply nutritional sustenance during infancy.

Men also prefer a secure and pleasant environment, don't they??? :confused2: Or does danger, violence, and/or discomfort add to their pleasure?

For uniquemand: Of course every person is an individual, but generalizations can be made, as long as exceptions are recognized.
To say that some women love violence may be true, but I don't believe it incorrect to indicate that most women would not choose to reveal their private parts under duress of violence.

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

People may be different because of later layers of programming.

What programming? - Who did that? When?

Sounds like some Hubbard shitthink... Oh yeah.. Said so in the 'Pain & Sex' PL didn't he.. The whole track evil psychs did it..

Some 'implant' that is.. What's the EP of running it out? - Private parts disappearing?

 

[Vinaire]

The subject of Live unit and Private Parts is still quite a taboo in spite of all the talk of liberalization in the modern societies. I started this thread primarily to take an honest look at this subject without any filters, and sincerely state whatever has been sitting in the mind without being defensive about it.

There is nothing wrong or right about this subject. Yes, one can be made fun of in this area. So what? One can laugh at oneself and learn from the silliness of it all. It is about putting it out there in plain view without holding it back. It is viewing it all that you thought and what others thought. These ideas must have come from somewhere... mostly absorbed from the culture. To me it is looking behind the taboo sincerely and honestly.

This requires standing outside of oneself and looking at this self. This self is made up of both a live unit and also of private parts. The importance that has been given to these things cannot be denied.

Looking is quite different from thinking. I have just finished rewriting my essay about it. Please see

KHTK 2: LOOKING AND THINKING

Looking may also be compared to thinking as follows.

1. When looking, one actually perceives one’s considerations that define what is there.
2. When thinking, one perceives what is there through the filter of one’s considerations.

It is actually the filter that does the thinking. It colors what is being perceived by labeling, evaluating and judging it.

I have been in trouble because of both live unit and private parts. Both have occupied my mind quite a bit. I don't have to talk about my life history. But I would like to put out there what I can make out of my filters (considerations), and get some feedback.

My filters come from the eastern culture that I grew up in. The filters of this western culture are quite different. I am looking forward to an interesting interaction among these two sets of filters.

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[Vinaire]

What programming? - Who did that? When?

Sounds like some Hubbard shitthink... Oh yeah.. Said so in the 'Pain & Sex' PL didn't he.. The whole track evil psychs did it..

Some 'implant' that is.. What's the EP of running it out? - Private parts disappearing?

I see you using a strong filter of Scientology.

There has been programming way before Scientology if you care to look. The society does a great job of programming.

Freud was on to something very interesting. He looked but then got distracted by thinking.

You seem to be thinking of private parts with your cap. It seemed to be seductive when the frequency of your cap was lower in the beginning. But you seem to be getting more impatient in your old age.

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[Vinaire]

'Methodical' doesn't describe what you are referring to Vinny, imo. But, yes, I think most women would not choose the back seat of a car, for eg, as an ideal place to share their private parts. Especially if the gear lever gets in the way. Nor would too hot, too cold, or too public an environment be conducive to optimal pleasure.

But at a more fundamental level, perhaps pleasure is not the operative impulse. Perhaps it is the safety, protection, and self preservation of the nurturer of potential offspring. Of course men can be nurturers and many are wonderful in that role, but they are not required to supply nutritional sustenance during infancy.

Men also prefer a secure and pleasant environment, don't they??? :confused2: Or does danger, violence, and/or discomfort add to their pleasure?

For uniquemand: Of course every person is an individual, but generalizations can be made, as long as exceptions are recognized.
To say that some women love violence may be true, but I don't believe it incorrect to indicate that most women would not choose to reveal their private parts under duress of violence.

I copy you, Kutta. And, at a certain level, you seem to copy me.

To me, the adult idea of survival translates ultimately to private parts. The people who wrote the VEDAS seem to have preoccupation with private parts too, but they also seem to be busy drinking soma and looking at the live unit. Yes, I like looking at the live unit too.

The primary difference between woman and man in this area seem to be patience. Men get into violence when they get impatient. Biologically, men can be impatient because they don't have to carry a child. Women may get impatient too when they deny their biological nature. But Biology demands women to be patient.

So it seems.

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[Kutta]

The subject of Live unit and Private Parts is still quite a taboo in spite of all the talk of liberalization in the modern societies. I started this thread primarily to take an honest look at this subject without any filters, and sincerely state whatever has been sitting in the mind without being defensive about it.


Vinny, I still don't understand the terminology 'live unit'. What is this? Aren't private parts live too? Are you making this distinction just for the purpose of exploring people's thoughts and attitudes to, let's say it, sex?

Yes, the subject of sex still carries some taboos, and especially for women. Men can discuss tits and bums and pussies and hotties with impunity, even here on ESMB. (And I for one would not want to censure them at all) If us gals were to carry on in this fashion about, well you know .... I'm not going to spell it out ... we would I think be thought of as at least a bit crude and lacking in any kind of feminine class, for want of a better word.







I have been in trouble because of both live unit and private parts. Both have occupied my mind quite a bit. I don't have to talk about my life history. But I would like to put out there what I can make out of my filters (considerations), and get some feedback.

My filters come from the eastern culture that I grew up in. The filters of this western culture are quite different. I am looking forward to an interesting interaction among these two sets of filters.

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The filters that I bring to this topic have transmuted over time as society has changed ... growing up through adolescence and teenage years in the late 50s/early 60s, then into the global sexual revolution of the late 60s through the 70s. Then the 80s through to the present. I can enlarge on these changes later.

The primary difference between woman and man in this area seem to be patience. Men get into violence when they get impatient. Biologically, men can be impatient because they don't have to carry a child. Women may get impatient too when they deny their biological nature. But Biology demands women to be patient.

I am trying to understand what you are saying here, Vinny. When you say men get impatient (and that leads to violence), I think you may be describing how men feel when sexually aroused, that beyond a certain level or arousal they find it very difficult to reign themselves even if their advances are rejected and may resort to force.

I had thought this was primarily experienced by young men, but it seems I need to review this idea.

I haven't grasped what you are getting at with respect to women and patience and biology.

 

[Vinaire]

Vinny, I still don't understand the terminology 'live unit'. What is this? Aren't private parts live too? Are you making this distinction just for the purpose of exploring people's thoughts and attitudes to, let's say it, sex?

Yes, the subject of sex still carries some taboos, and especially for women. Men can discuss tits and bums and pussies and hotties with impunity, even here on ESMB. (And I for one would not want to censure them at all) If us gals were to carry on in this fashion about, well you know .... I'm not going to spell it out ... we would I think be thought of as at least a bit crude and lacking in any kind of feminine class, for want of a better word.

The filters that I bring to this topic have transmuted over time as society has changed ... growing up through adolescence and teenage years in the late 50s/early 60s, then into the global sexual revolution of the late 60s through the 70s. Then the 80s through to the present. I can enlarge on these changes later.

I am trying to understand what you are saying here, Vinny. When you say men get impatient (and that leads to violence), I think you may be describing how men feel when sexually aroused, that beyond a certain level or arousal they find it very difficult to reign themselves even if their advances are rejected and may resort to force.

I had thought this was primarily experienced by young men, but it seems I need to review this idea.

I haven't grasped what you are getting at with respect to women and patience and biology.

Thank you, Kutta, for your interest and participation.

I visualize LIVE UNIT - PRIVATE PARTS as OBSERVER - OBSERVED. There is a fascination that binds the two in this case. There seems to be an unresolved mystery. It seems that the binding fascination will lighten up to the degree this mystery is resolved.

This mystery seems to be very fundamental to me. Freud was wrapped up in it, and he investigated it quite explicitly. Hubbard was tormented by it, but he avoided dealing with it explicitly. He just shut himself down in that area and tried to shut others down.

When one looks at these private parts, they seem to have a life their own. As La La Lou Lou said, these private parts are often given an identity of their own. They are situated in a location corresponding to the head (between the legs versus between the arms). When the private parts really become alive they take over the thinking done by the head,

To me the subject here is way more than sex. It is being overcome by a desire... it is becoming a different person... it is being taken over by a different brain. This takeover seems to be more rapid and radical with men than with women. As you can see, I am still struggling to define what is really bothering me in this area. Yes, I want to explore other people's observations in this area. Do others also feel being taken over by a different brain?

I think that the subject of sex still carries taboo because one doesn't like to lose one's identity, and which is what happens when 'private parts' take over the thinking of the head. It is like a virus getting into the rational mind, and the rational mind now starts making justification to actions that it would otherwise censor. This is the kind of virus that brings about the phenomenon of procrastination too. A similar phenomenon occurs between the sleeping and waking state.

Basically, the mind seems to switch from one level of thinking to another level, either gradually or rapidly. And it happens time and again. There seems to be two different logics co-existing side by side. The dominant logic defines our identity. It seems to be very afraid of being taken over by another identity given to it by private parts. I do not know to what degree this scenario plays out with women. I know that, in general, it applies to both men and women.

You said that men can talk about private parts with impunity even on a forum like ESMB without being frowned upon, but women can't. But I think women also do that in a different way among themselves, if not on an open forum. People discuss and laugh about those things that they are influenced by but they do not understand.

Yes, the taboos have lightened up over time, and people are more willing to look at this subject compared to before. In other words, people are more willing to look at those filters that have made this subject an uneasy one to discuss.

Basically, I am talking about one's rational thinking being infected and taken over by private parts (a secondary brain). This may happen to different degree with different people but it happens none the less. It may get suppressed but becomes explosive sooner or later. It is not just a men thing or a women thing. It is a human thing. It would be a distraction to play women versus men here, though the differences may be pointed out as well as the similarities.

My thoughts with respect to women and patience and biology are just thrown out here for brain storming purposes. I am not sure yet where this discussion might lead to. All I know is that a lot of smart brains have tried to look at this area in spite of social taboos.

I am probably quite stupid to venture in this area.

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[SchwimmelPuckel]

<snip> It is being overcome by a desire... it is becoming a different person... it is being taken over by a different brain. <snip>

Hmm.. I can agree on 'being overcome by desire', but becoming a different person or being taken over by a different brain... Well, that would scare the shit outta me.. Would've made me go celibate and have caused me to agree with Hubbard on his 'Pain & Sex PL' if it had ever happened to me!

Shit man!!

 

[Vinaire]

Hmm.. I can agree on 'being overcome by desire', but becoming a different person or being taken over by a different brain... Well, that would scare the shit outta me.. Would've made me go celibate and have caused me to agree with Hubbard on his 'Pain & Sex PL' if it had ever happened to me!

Shit man!!

I think that takeover is a temporary one, and by no means a permanent one. I would say that in that recent episode of rape of the chamber maid by the IMF Chief, this phenomenon did occur.

And you also have the case of the terminator fathering a child through a member of his household. I think his intelligence was momentarily taken over by his private parts.

So this happens, though people can be in denial about it. Why do you think there is such a taboo associated with this area? When the tentacles of the private part start reaching the regular brain, the transformation in thinking can be very slow and insidious.

Now "Pain & Sex" is something different. It is a justification too. It is an unthinking and fearful reaction to what happened to Hubbard. But this discussion is not about promoting that stupidity.

It is about LOOKING, and not about thinking and reacting and speaking as "source."

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[VaD]

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