Terril park
Sponsor
First I would like to state my position. I have done the purif twice to
excellent results.
I have and continue to praise David Love's enormous efforts to handle
problems with Narconons's delivery of this action.
I consider care and especially medical attention has been criminally negligent.
I consider monitoring liver function is vital and especially in the light of those
who've had a long drug history may have severely diminished capacity to do such a rundown. This best I know is not done at all!
I thank Mimsey for setting me off on looking at this further.
Although I think in general the Purif, or any Detox regime is a good thing, I
have some criticisms of Purif tech.
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On my first purif I was suprised to find it took 2-3 months. The only drugs I'd taken
were mariuanha once, general anaesthetics twice, never smoked, drank beer which was possibly less poluted than London water which is recycled 7 times!!! Yikes! I eventually concluded, rightly or wrongly that the reason for this long time on the purif is that I'd ingested a lot of lead from decades of driving in London when there was lead in petrol.
Was inspired to see how and if the purif can actually get rid of lead and other heavy metals, My tentative conclusion is that it might possibly have a mild effect on them, but dosn't really have the right intake of substances to do much about them. Amino acids
seem to be the most effective thing.
There are it seems some natural methods which appear to work quite well, and don't involve long hours in the sauna etc.
On using medical chelation therapy to detox lead, one reaches a point where after
high levels are gotten rid of there remains lower levels of lead excreted.
This is lead being extracted from bone. This seems to be a pathway Hubbard didn't comment on or possibly consider. Other toxins may well be stored in the bone.
The addition of Alpha Lipoic Acid is used medically, as this is perhaps the most potent
anti oxident known and is both fat and water soluble and is made by the body in small quantities. Thus heavy metals released into the body by chelataion therapy can be handled, or at least partially by ALA.
The usual medical chelating agents can be difficult and dangerous to use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylen...traacetic_acid
An apparently safer option is dmsa. This URL shows that lead for example has no safe dose. In fact in general heavy metals are all neurotoxins. Also indicates that treatment can go on for months.
http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/
There is a natural chelating therapy "HMD" which contains Chlorella, Chorella growth factor and cilantro tincture which is it says very safe. Its expensive, but there may be cheaper alternatives. Cilantro or coriander is also a neavy metal detoxifier.
It seems established that Chlorela does indeed help remove heavy metals from the body.
Chlorella contains much proteins and thus amino acids [ sythetic amino acids are used medically for chelation therapy] and a high percentage of vits and minerals.
Its possible that the purif may have a very mild chelating effect. One can buy chelating products that contain vitamins and amino acids.
http://www.oralchelation.com/ingredie.htm
Looks to me that the purif can be improved by adding these natural chelating methods. Or
probably better to do this before the purif.
Not only do they handle heavy metals, but also PCBs and Dioxins. Note that Dioxins have spread worldwide including the arctic regions and are known to accumalate in bodies.
http://www.naturalways.com/chlorella...l-analysis.htm
http://www.detoxmetals.com/pages/Scientific-Proof.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorella
"Because of its unique ability to bind with mercury, lead, and cadmium, the plant (chlorella vulgaris) has become increasing popular as a heavy metal "detoxifier". Studies indicate that chlorella (vulgaris etc) demonstrate a superior ability to (safely) draw these toxic metals from the gut and intestinal tract (where they tend to accumulate).[7][8][9] Like blue-green algae, clinical studies on Chlorella suggest effects including polychlorinated dibenzodioxins detoxification in humans[10] and other animals,[11] healing from radiation exposure in animals[12] and the ability to reduce high blood pressure, lower serum cholesterol levels, accelerate wound healing, and enhance immune functions in humans.[13]"
http://www.naturalways.com/chlorella.htm
http://www.detoxmetals.com/pages/Chlorella-Facts.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylen...traacetic_acid
en.wikipedia.org
Purif series 14 of 27 March 1990 is very suspect from the date alone.
The problems of Dioxins seem to have been known in some areas since the late 19th century. It was not an issue in the US until the mid 1980's research.
Its unlikely Hubbard knew about this area at all. If he did, despite being a quick and dirty researcher his brilliance and intuition may have looked at this in more detail. It seems it only made the news as a component of agent orange.
Its possible the purif handles these. I don't know.
Heavy metal toxicity has been known for centuries, but has been mainly specific to working with them. In modern times treatment was started after poison gas exposure to arsenic in world war 1.
It seems unlikely that LRH considered this area as best I know its only mentioned
tangientially in this 1990 issue.
" But workers in factories which produce or use such things as pesticides,petroleum products...........plated metals, preservatives..........etc.
Thus further analysis of neavy metals are completely glossed over. Not really what one
expects from Hubbard. If he gets something wrong he corrected it. It seems VERY unlikely this is written by Hubbard.
Heavy metals are neuro toxins.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotoxin
" Macroscopic manifestations of neurotoxin exposure can include widespread central nervous system damage such as mental retardation,[4] persistent memory impairments,[15] epilepsy, and dementia.["
One may have enjoyed partying, recreational drugs ect. But can one imagine greater barriers to auditing gain than the above?
Don't think LRH would have missed this, and the people in charge don't give a damn!!!
They appear to have no one researching other than for legal reasons and PR reasons!!!
excellent results.
I have and continue to praise David Love's enormous efforts to handle
problems with Narconons's delivery of this action.
I consider care and especially medical attention has been criminally negligent.
I consider monitoring liver function is vital and especially in the light of those
who've had a long drug history may have severely diminished capacity to do such a rundown. This best I know is not done at all!
I thank Mimsey for setting me off on looking at this further.
Although I think in general the Purif, or any Detox regime is a good thing, I
have some criticisms of Purif tech.
---------------------------
On my first purif I was suprised to find it took 2-3 months. The only drugs I'd taken
were mariuanha once, general anaesthetics twice, never smoked, drank beer which was possibly less poluted than London water which is recycled 7 times!!! Yikes! I eventually concluded, rightly or wrongly that the reason for this long time on the purif is that I'd ingested a lot of lead from decades of driving in London when there was lead in petrol.
Was inspired to see how and if the purif can actually get rid of lead and other heavy metals, My tentative conclusion is that it might possibly have a mild effect on them, but dosn't really have the right intake of substances to do much about them. Amino acids
seem to be the most effective thing.
There are it seems some natural methods which appear to work quite well, and don't involve long hours in the sauna etc.
On using medical chelation therapy to detox lead, one reaches a point where after
high levels are gotten rid of there remains lower levels of lead excreted.
This is lead being extracted from bone. This seems to be a pathway Hubbard didn't comment on or possibly consider. Other toxins may well be stored in the bone.
The addition of Alpha Lipoic Acid is used medically, as this is perhaps the most potent
anti oxident known and is both fat and water soluble and is made by the body in small quantities. Thus heavy metals released into the body by chelataion therapy can be handled, or at least partially by ALA.
The usual medical chelating agents can be difficult and dangerous to use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylen...traacetic_acid
An apparently safer option is dmsa. This URL shows that lead for example has no safe dose. In fact in general heavy metals are all neurotoxins. Also indicates that treatment can go on for months.
http://www.dmsa-chelation.info/
There is a natural chelating therapy "HMD" which contains Chlorella, Chorella growth factor and cilantro tincture which is it says very safe. Its expensive, but there may be cheaper alternatives. Cilantro or coriander is also a neavy metal detoxifier.
It seems established that Chlorela does indeed help remove heavy metals from the body.
Chlorella contains much proteins and thus amino acids [ sythetic amino acids are used medically for chelation therapy] and a high percentage of vits and minerals.
Its possible that the purif may have a very mild chelating effect. One can buy chelating products that contain vitamins and amino acids.
http://www.oralchelation.com/ingredie.htm
Looks to me that the purif can be improved by adding these natural chelating methods. Or
probably better to do this before the purif.
Not only do they handle heavy metals, but also PCBs and Dioxins. Note that Dioxins have spread worldwide including the arctic regions and are known to accumalate in bodies.
http://www.naturalways.com/chlorella...l-analysis.htm
http://www.detoxmetals.com/pages/Scientific-Proof.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorella
"Because of its unique ability to bind with mercury, lead, and cadmium, the plant (chlorella vulgaris) has become increasing popular as a heavy metal "detoxifier". Studies indicate that chlorella (vulgaris etc) demonstrate a superior ability to (safely) draw these toxic metals from the gut and intestinal tract (where they tend to accumulate).[7][8][9] Like blue-green algae, clinical studies on Chlorella suggest effects including polychlorinated dibenzodioxins detoxification in humans[10] and other animals,[11] healing from radiation exposure in animals[12] and the ability to reduce high blood pressure, lower serum cholesterol levels, accelerate wound healing, and enhance immune functions in humans.[13]"
http://www.naturalways.com/chlorella.htm
http://www.detoxmetals.com/pages/Chlorella-Facts.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylen...traacetic_acid
en.wikipedia.org
Purif series 14 of 27 March 1990 is very suspect from the date alone.
The problems of Dioxins seem to have been known in some areas since the late 19th century. It was not an issue in the US until the mid 1980's research.
Its unlikely Hubbard knew about this area at all. If he did, despite being a quick and dirty researcher his brilliance and intuition may have looked at this in more detail. It seems it only made the news as a component of agent orange.
Its possible the purif handles these. I don't know.
Heavy metal toxicity has been known for centuries, but has been mainly specific to working with them. In modern times treatment was started after poison gas exposure to arsenic in world war 1.
It seems unlikely that LRH considered this area as best I know its only mentioned
tangientially in this 1990 issue.
" But workers in factories which produce or use such things as pesticides,petroleum products...........plated metals, preservatives..........etc.
Thus further analysis of neavy metals are completely glossed over. Not really what one
expects from Hubbard. If he gets something wrong he corrected it. It seems VERY unlikely this is written by Hubbard.
Heavy metals are neuro toxins.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotoxin
" Macroscopic manifestations of neurotoxin exposure can include widespread central nervous system damage such as mental retardation,[4] persistent memory impairments,[15] epilepsy, and dementia.["
One may have enjoyed partying, recreational drugs ect. But can one imagine greater barriers to auditing gain than the above?
Don't think LRH would have missed this, and the people in charge don't give a damn!!!
They appear to have no one researching other than for legal reasons and PR reasons!!!