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haiqu

Patron Meritorious
After running Power Plus there was something distinctly missing. I had flattened 1B (What person have you known?), 1C (What place have you known?) and 1D (What subject would you like to know more about?) but was left with a hollow, empty feeling afterwards. There was a sense of loss that I couldn't shake off. I had laid bare the situation but there hadn't been any handling for it.

In the Power materials, under the Conditions process, is this statement:

"One does not run the secondary or engram as an Auditor. One just goes on running the Conditions Process commands. It is a severe goof to stop or change processes just because the Pc has hit a secondary or the key engram. One runs the process exactly. When the Pc revivifies a few more commands usually gets him into PT and ends the process. It is a severe goof to overrun or underrun the process."

Well, I had hit a secondary, revivified the damned thing and was now sitting right square in the middle of Sad Sack City, regretting missed opportunities. There had to be more, but Power and Power Plus weren't handling it.

In looking over the dynamics and my interactions with them, and with reference to the SHSBC tape "Moral Codes: What is a Withhold?" it occurred to me that the dichotomy of SEPARATING / JOINING was being keyed in here. May be an actual GPM pair (as distinct from an implant GPM pair), or may be more basic than that. I say this because we originally separated from a larger body of theta, and because joining has occurred as a major enforced action to aberrate. i.e. the OT III / NOTs materials.

I wrote a simple process pair that directly handles this situation and ran it this way, alternatively:

Get the idea of separating
Get the idea of joining

If any specific event / situation / occurrence popped into view it was immediately modified to the specific, such as:

"Get the idea of joining THE SALVOS / Get the idea of separating from THE SALVOS"

Fake item there obviously, but you get the idea. When that item flattened I returned to the general version until there was no change for some 10-15 minutes, at which time I ended off. It took me about 90 minutes to run in total, as a solo metered process.

Well I have to tell you, the change was dramatic.

I have NO attention on past losses. ZIP. NADA. None at all. I ran off past deaths, losses, separation from theta, even the beginnings of earlier universes, and found that this process undercuts both O/W and Out Int. It cleans up and gets rid of yearning and regret. I felt as if lost bits of me were rejoining and I was becoming a "whole thetan" again. In short, completely miraculous.

I just blew through chest pains, irritable bowel syndrome and an aching back that had been dragging me down for some 6 months. They're just GONE.

I've also had a problem with erratic sleep patterns, can't say if this has improved because quite frankly life is way too interesting to be sleeping right now. I guess I'll know the answer to that later today.

The first thing I did afterwards was look at what gains I had made in the theta universe, and immediately realized I fully understood the Factors for the first time. Especially Factor 6: "The action of a dimension point is reaching and withdrawing."

Ken Ogger (aka The Pilot) once lamented that there didn't seem to be any processes that specifically handle major loss and secondaries. This process is hereby offered to the Freezone and dedicated to his memory.
 

RogerB

Crusader
After running Power Plus there was something distinctly missing. I had flattened 1B (What person have you known?), 1C (What place have you known?) and 1D (What subject would you like to know more about?) but was left with a hollow, empty feeling afterwards. There was a sense of loss that I couldn't shake off. I had laid bare the situation but there hadn't been any handling for it.

In the Power materials, under the Conditions process, is this statement:

"One does not run the secondary or engram as an Auditor. One just goes on running the Conditions Process commands. It is a severe goof to stop or change processes just because the Pc has hit a secondary or the key engram. One runs the process exactly. When the Pc revivifies a few more commands usually gets him into PT and ends the process. It is a severe goof to overrun or underrun the process."

Well, I had hit a secondary, revivified the damned thing and was now sitting right square in the middle of Sad Sack City, regretting missed opportunities. There had to be more, but Power and Power Plus weren't handling it.

In looking over the dynamics and my interactions with them, and with reference to the SHSBC tape "Moral Codes: What is a Withhold?" it occurred to me that the dichotomy of SEPARATING / JOINING was being keyed in here. May be an actual GPM pair (as distinct from an implant GPM pair), or may be more basic than that. I say this because we originally separated from a larger body of theta, and because joining has occurred as a major enforced action to aberrate. i.e. the OT III / NOTs materials.

I wrote a simple process pair that directly handles this situation and ran it this way, alternatively:

Get the idea of separating
Get the idea of joining

If any specific event / situation / occurrence popped into view it was immediately modified to the specific, such as:

"Get the idea of joining THE SALVOS / Get the idea of separating from THE SALVOS"

Fake item there obviously, but you get the idea. When that item flattened I returned to the general version until there was no change for some 10-15 minutes, at which time I ended off. It took me about 90 minutes to run in total, as a solo metered process.

Well I have to tell you, the change was dramatic.

I have NO attention on past losses. ZIP. NADA. None at all. I ran off past deaths, losses, separation from theta, even the beginnings of earlier universes, and found that this process undercuts both O/W and Out Int. It cleans up and gets rid of yearning and regret. I felt as if lost bits of me were rejoining and I was becoming a "whole thetan" again. In short, completely miraculous.

I just blew through chest pains, irritable bowel syndrome and an aching back that had been dragging me down for some 6 months. They're just GONE.

I've also had a problem with erratic sleep patterns, can't say if this has improved because quite frankly life is way too interesting to be sleeping right now. I guess I'll know the answer to that later today.

The first thing I did afterwards was look at what gains I had made in the theta universe, and immediately realized I fully understood the Factors for the first time. Especially Factor 6: "The action of a dimension point is reaching and withdrawing."

Ken Ogger (aka The Pilot) once lamented that there didn't seem to be any processes that specifically handle major loss and secondaries. This process is hereby offered to the Freezone and dedicated to his memory.

Nice, haiqu . . . very well done. And a nice write up. :yes:

R
 

haiqu

Patron Meritorious
Thanks Roger.

Just an update, after 24 hours my attention is still outward and I'm feeling great. I've noticed that a cloud of crap that I previously used to filter my interactions with other people has all but vanished. And for the first time in 17 years I'm considering the possibility of entering into a 2D relationship. My eyesight has improved and I feel younger and less tired.

Hopefully this data will be of use to anyone in the same situation. I would definitely want others to have similar gains.

A further note is that I audit very quickly solo, and if this were done in a formal session with an auditor I'd expect it to take most of an intensive (12 1/2 hrs) to fully handle.
 
... And for the first time in 17 years I'm considering the possibility of entering into a 2D relationship. ...

Reversing the process?

1. Get the idea of joining.
2. Get the idea of separating.

Repeat 1 & 2 to f/n, vgi's, & cognition.


Mark A. Baker :whistling:
 

haiqu

Patron Meritorious
Uhhhh Mark, are you suggesting I'll regret doing that, and that backpedalling is a better option?

You do have a point ...

... but then maybe my eyesight will get worse again. :coolwink:
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
I think Mark is suggesting a sort of int-ext process with regard to the 2D, otherwise known as a bit of the old in-and-out.

Paul
 

haiqu

Patron Meritorious
Ah yes, I see.

I guess I'd forgotten about that aspect ... after all, I did say it had been 17 years.

Something to look forward to. I hear that at my age, it helps to pass the time.

(I'm sure Paul will get that reference ...)
 

nozeno

Gold Meritorious Patron
You are the same before, during and after the "process", only the story in your head changes and it isn't even your head.

But there is nothing you can do about it so keep doing what you're doing.

Do you have a choice?
 

FoTi

Crusader
After running Power Plus there was something distinctly missing. I had flattened 1B (What person have you known?), 1C (What place have you known?) and 1D (What subject would you like to know more about?) but was left with a hollow, empty feeling afterwards. There was a sense of loss that I couldn't shake off. I had laid bare the situation but there hadn't been any handling for it.

In the Power materials, under the Conditions process, is this statement:

"One does not run the secondary or engram as an Auditor. One just goes on running the Conditions Process commands. It is a severe goof to stop or change processes just because the Pc has hit a secondary or the key engram. One runs the process exactly. When the Pc revivifies a few more commands usually gets him into PT and ends the process. It is a severe goof to overrun or underrun the process."

Well, I had hit a secondary, revivified the damned thing and was now sitting right square in the middle of Sad Sack City, regretting missed opportunities. There had to be more, but Power and Power Plus weren't handling it.

In looking over the dynamics and my interactions with them, and with reference to the SHSBC tape "Moral Codes: What is a Withhold?" it occurred to me that the dichotomy of SEPARATING / JOINING was being keyed in here. May be an actual GPM pair (as distinct from an implant GPM pair), or may be more basic than that. I say this because we originally separated from a larger body of theta, and because joining has occurred as a major enforced action to aberrate. i.e. the OT III / NOTs materials.

I wrote a simple process pair that directly handles this situation and ran it this way, alternatively:

Get the idea of separating
Get the idea of joining

If any specific event / situation / occurrence popped into view it was immediately modified to the specific, such as:

"Get the idea of joining THE SALVOS / Get the idea of separating from THE SALVOS"

Fake item there obviously, but you get the idea. When that item flattened I returned to the general version until there was no change for some 10-15 minutes, at which time I ended off. It took me about 90 minutes to run in total, as a solo metered process.

Well I have to tell you, the change was dramatic.

I have NO attention on past losses. ZIP. NADA. None at all. I ran off past deaths, losses, separation from theta, even the beginnings of earlier universes, and found that this process undercuts both O/W and Out Int. It cleans up and gets rid of yearning and regret. I felt as if lost bits of me were rejoining and I was becoming a "whole thetan" again. In short, completely miraculous.

I just blew through chest pains, irritable bowel syndrome and an aching back that had been dragging me down for some 6 months. They're just GONE.

I've also had a problem with erratic sleep patterns, can't say if this has improved because quite frankly life is way too interesting to be sleeping right now. I guess I'll know the answer to that later today.

The first thing I did afterwards was look at what gains I had made in the theta universe, and immediately realized I fully understood the Factors for the first time. Especially Factor 6: "The action of a dimension point is reaching and withdrawing."

Ken Ogger (aka The Pilot) once lamented that there didn't seem to be any processes that specifically handle major loss and secondaries. This process is hereby offered to the Freezone and dedicated to his memory.

Ooooooo......Thank You!!!!
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
_snip_

The first thing I did afterwards was look at what gains I had made in the theta universe, and immediately realized I fully understood the Factors for the first time. Especially Factor 6: "The action of a dimension point is reaching and withdrawing."

Ken Ogger (aka The Pilot) once lamented that there didn't seem to be any processes that specifically handle major loss and secondaries. This process is hereby offered to the Freezone and dedicated to his memory.

I think that's wonderful haiqu. :thumbsup:

I wonder how many will try your process out. :clap::clap::clap:

I was Reading The Pilot's drills on improving one's ability to place intention yesterday. I just stumbled across some of his self-clearing materials. I'll second a dedication to his memory.

http://sandorian.us/newslog2.php/__show_article/_a000245-000164.htm
 

haiqu

Patron Meritorious
Thanks Hatshepsut. It was a personal dedication, I didn't know Ken but his work is outstanding and he was once very complimentary to me on a.r.s. when commenting about the various denizens of that newsgroup.

I also appreciate the enormous work he did in categorizing both tapes and R6 era lectures, which has been invaluable to me.
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
Thanks Hatshepsut. It was a personal dedication, I didn't know Ken but his work is outstanding and he was once very complimentary to me on a.r.s. when commenting about the various denizens of that newsgroup.

I also appreciate the enormous work he did in categorizing both tapes and R6 era lectures, which has been invaluable to me.

Yes. He had clarity in the beginning. In 1998 I obtained Super Scio on floppys. :D

What is amazing is I think he did all of his research alone when scouting for track incidents. I remember LRH having Mary Sue help him in recording the Targ tape. Electropsychometric Scouting ..Battle of The Universes or some such. Taking shots in the dark...seeing if things read as he tossed ideas out and mofifying them to see if they got a better read. He was not SOURCE then. Just a receiver....a channeller of impressions being picked up. :blush:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=322153&postcount=1
 

haiqu

Patron Meritorious
HCL-Spec 5204?? Electropsychometric Scouting—Battle of the Universes (MSH audits Ron)

Yes, Ken's work is outstanding from that perspective, although he started researching from a trained, OT VII viewpoint which must have helped enormously. There are few IMHO who have given so much, and so freely, to further the understanding of Scientology.

I've been updating his tape list, will post a copy once it's completed. The new version includes names of recent CD collections, and an indication of whether each lecture is known to be available on the internet.
 
HCL-Spec 5204?? Electropsychometric Scouting—Battle of the Universes (MSH audits Ron)

Yes, Ken's work is outstanding from that perspective, although he started researching from a trained, OT VII viewpoint which must have helped enormously. There are few IMHO who have given so much, and so freely, to further the understanding of Scientology.

I've been updating his tape list, will post a copy once it's completed. The new version includes names of recent CD collections, and an indication of whether each lecture is known to be available on the internet.

You might want to send it to frrezoneamerica.or and .com, and freezoneearth.org . Put it up on the web for posterity.
 

Ogsonofgroo

Crusader
You are the same before, during and after the "process", only the story in your head changes and it isn't even your head.

But there is nothing you can do about it so keep doing what you're doing.

Do you have a choice?

It's within or without you.


o/O
 
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