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Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
This a piece of Scio History - back in the "great old days."

Ron came by and watched me play cricket - he took all the photo's that appeared in the Auditor Mag in those days.

Interesting enough the day he took the photo - was the day I hit my highest score ever. (86 not out.) :)

He caused quite a stir as he arrived in his Chevy, Catelina convertible, loaded with camera euipment, etc.

http://weappreciate.com/pictures/

Sorry about the quality of the pics.

One of the most wonderful times of my life was playing village green cricket in Sussex, England - there were so many beautiful villages and the countryside was heavenly around them.

Alan
 

Div6

Crusader
This a piece of Scio History - back in the "great old days."

Ron came by and watched me play cricket - he took all the photo's that appeared in the Auditor Mag in those days.

Interesting enough the day he took the photo - was the day I hit my highest score ever. (86 not out.) :)

He caused quite a stir as he arrived in his Chevy, Catelina convertible, loaded with camera euipment, etc.

http://weappreciate.com/pictures/

Sorry about the quality of the pics.

One of the most wonderful times of my life was playing village green cricket in Sussex, England - there were so many beautiful villages and the countryside was heavenly around them.

Alan

Wow. That is a piece of history. Thanks Alan...hope to see more.

Heaven is a GPM word, you know....:whistling:
 

Veda

Sponsor
This a piece of Scio History - back in the "great old days."

Ron came by and watched me play cricket - he took all the photo's that appeared in the Auditor Mag in those days.

Interesting enough the day he took the photo - was the day I hit my highest score ever. (86 not out.) :)

He caused quite a stir as he arrived in his Chevy, Catelina convertible, loaded with camera euipment, etc.

http://weappreciate.com/pictures/

Sorry about the quality of the pics.

One of the most wonderful times of my life was playing village green cricket in Sussex, England - there were so many beautiful villages and the countryside was heavenly around them.

Alan

1964 - before 'KSW', and before so many other things that would forever change the nature of Scientology.

Whatever happened to Julia Salmen? Stan Stromfeld? Sheila and David Aldrich? Herbie Parkhouse? Bob Deobler? Joy Walter? Deon Satterfield? And Ian Morrison?
 

Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
1964 - before 'KSW', and before so many other things that would forever change the nature of Scientology.

Yes, it was a pretty safe environment......no ethics (just honesty), no GO, no SO, no Grade Chart.

Just audit the pc on what they wanted.

Both sides of Bridge cost about $2,000.

Auditing $20 an hour.

Whatever happened to Julia Salmen? Stan Stromfeld? Sheila and David Aldrich? Herbie Parkhouse? Bob Deobler? Joy Walter? Deon Satterfield? And Ian Morrison?

Julia Salmen and Stan Stromfeld deceased.

Sheila and David are still in.....I believe.

Herbie, been declared SP, is a successful businessman in Brighton.

Bob Deobler was one of the 1st US declared SPs.

Joy married Bob Earl. Both out of Scio., left in 1982.

Deon Satterfield is in Hawaii.....very successful life. Also left Scio., 1982.

I do not know what happened to Ian Morrison.

Alan
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
In 1964, a class VI in 12 weeks... WOW... I can't imagine it. :)


Amazing!!!


in 98/99 it took me one year, full time. 40-50 hours in the chair weekly for months on Level O and P (both are practical levels). I was considered one of the fastest of the time.

Of course, we couldnt play the tapes in faster speeds, like what was being done before.
 

Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
Amazing!!!

in 98/99 it took me one year, full time. 40-50 hours in the chair weekly for months on Level O and P (both are practical levels). I was considered one of the fastest of the time.

Of course, we couldnt play the tapes in faster speeds, like what was being done before.

The reason many could do it in that time was they had already listened to most of the tapes. All the tapes were available even in the Missions....that included the GPM tapes.....there were no confidential levels.

In those days you had to a 100% star rate check out on the tape.....or you would go back and listen to it again.

Also the check-sheets were much shorter.

But each day there were 3 hour co-audits each way. So 6 hours a day was spent there.

I don't know of many who finished in 12 weeks.

Most took 8 to 12 months.

By the time you got to the Z unit the co-audits were often 5 hours each way.

The Z Unit was the research tech and GPM tech levels.

By the time I had finished my 2nd SHSBC I had co-audited roughly 4-5,000 hours each way. (including my earlier years.) Most of which was C/Sed by Ron.

You get pretty good after awhile. :)

Alan
 

Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
Of course, we couldnt play the tapes in faster speeds, like what was being done before.

Well it was not easy to get Ron to deliver his live lectures at faster speeds :)

Also I don't think the tape machines could be run at double speed. I doubt that anyone did that in those days.

Ron would lecture 2 or 3 times a week. So most of the time we had to check out on his live lectures!

Alan
 

programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
Amazing!!!


in 98/99 it took me one year, full time. 40-50 hours in the chair weekly for months on Level O and P (both are practical levels). I was considered one of the fastest of the time.

Of course, we couldnt play the tapes in faster speeds, like what was being done before.

How long was your internship? Just curious.
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
Bea Kiddo,

Now I'm confused.

Level O and P are not the internship. the levels A - N are all theory. Mainly tapes, books and clay demos and so forth. Some Golden Age of Tech Drills, but not really.

Level O is the big one. On that checksheet (which is like a final practical, if you will) you must audit A LOT of actions and rundowns. I had to audit the entire Grades on a PC, 6 NED RDs (stop me for word clearing if any of these are misunderstoods), Method One, Objectives, C/S 53 to F/Ning, GF40X to F/Ning, etc etc. In addition, I had to get an RTC video pass on it, even though it is not an intership. It is student auditing.

Level P is the tech specialist rundowns such as Happiness RD, Allergy/Asthma RD, Fear of People RD, South African RD, things like that. I had to audit 5 of them I think. Plus RTC video pass.

Once I completed all of that, THEN I went onto the VI Internship.

Level O and P are delivered in Div 4 (Tech).

Internships are delivered in Div 5 (Qual).

Does that help? :)
 

Winston Smith

Flunked Scientology
Yes, it was a pretty safe environment......no ethics (just honesty), no GO, no SO, no Grade Chart.

Just audit the pc on what they wanted.

Both sides of Bridge cost about $2,000.

Auditing $20 an hour.



Julia Salmen and Stan Stromfeld deceased.

Sheila and David are still in.....I believe.

Herbie, been declared SP, is a successful businessman in Brighton.

Bob Deobler was one of the 1st US declared SPs.

Joy married Bob Earl. Both out of Scio., left in 1982.

Deon Satterfield is in Hawaii.....very successful life. Also left Scio., 1982.

I do not know what happened to Ian Morrison.

Alan

Yeah, having married a successful doctor. :duh:
 
My point being her "success" was in marrying the right guy. Scn had not a fucking thing to do with it.

What are the odds that someone who was involved with Scientology will become 'successful' ... about exactly the same as someone who never heard of Scientology becoming successful.

The only difference is the one involved with Scientology will be stupid enough to think Scientology has something to do with it and be thanking Ron for it.
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
By the way...

Julia Salmen was an original Class VIII and is the person that developed the OCA and the testing indoc line and "gave" it to El Ron.

RIP Julia.

Face:)
 
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afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
What are the odds that someone who was involved with Scientology will become 'successful' ... about exactly the same as someone who never heard of Scientology becoming successful.

The only difference is the one involved with Scientology will be stupid enough to think Scientology has something to do with it and be thanking Ron for it.

:yes:
 

Veda

Sponsor
By the way...

Julia Salmen was an original Class VIII and is the person that developed the OCA and the testing indoc line and "gave" it to El Ron.

RIP Julia.

Face:)

An old post from the 'stably exterior with full perception' thread mentions Julia:

-snip-

But there was one stuck picture that would not go away. Behind it was at that time an unthinkable thought.

Ron had Julia Salmon thrown overboard.....Julia was about 64 years old, terribly overweight and could not swim. [In a later post, Alan revised his estimate of her age to that of middle aged.]

The people who threw her overboard struggled to get her over the side; she was terrified; she kept crying out "I cannot swim!" On her way down she hit the side of the ship - I could hear her screams - it was obvious she was injured and drowning.

The people on the deck all stood around too afraid to do anything. Fearing to originate any action less the become the target of LRH's displeasure.

I ran and jumped over the side and rescued her. I then pulled her over to the ladder that led up to the ground level of the dock........it was about 20 feet straight up. She could not climb the steps. I had my shoulders under her butt pushing her up..... no one still had come to help.......but at the top of that ladder stood LRH filming us.....such evil.......

Anyway after an immense struggle with Julia's help I was able to push her up to the top of the ladder....finally some help arrived.

Over the years the unthinkable thought pushed forward more and more....it was "that I observe that LRH was demonic at that time." I did not want to know that, did not want to believe that.......that was too incredible to be believed - even for me - I did the usual make nothing of myself...."you're seeing things" "what do you know" "you got overts" - much easier to blame self than confront what is.

-snip-
 

clamicide

Gold Meritorious Patron
By the way...

Julia Salmen was an original Class VIII and is the person that developed the OCA and the testing indoc line and "gave" it to El Ron.

RIP Julia.

Face:)

Wow, from smatterings here and some vague recall of other things I've read, I think maybe a thread just on her might be warranted, unless it's all elsewhere, in which case a link would be lovely. Lots of people in the history here, and I know it gets smooshed together, but I kind of like getting to 'know' and hear about the individuals in all of this. Actually, maybe a bio/key player section might be an interesting addition to the board and those who have info could contribute.
 
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