PCS was at college in Florida, and not happy with life when introduced to Dianetics. It changed his life. The core principles of Book One have not changed in the last 60 years. ie. running (reliving) incidents, repeater technique, earlier similar, the file clerk. PCS and I still use the concepts when we audit. The damn book has longevity. I never thought that it was particularly well written, but the concepts are as true for me today as when PCS was first audited in 1950.
Reactive mind is still a crock concept, it disregards the working and development of the brain wich however is not important if you just run these psychological and selftraining practices to atain your goals some of wich can put you in a trance like state wich is not uncomon in day to day live. I do see that there is value in the personal hang ups that get councilled in the auditing process but it gets dangerous with the claims it can cure anything
Hubbard was born in 1911. To PCS, Hubbard was an adult. PCS was a college student. There was natural respect for someone older and wiser, who had, additionally saved PCS's bacon.
Anonymous wisdom: NEVER trust leaderfags or so called "authorities"
My wife held national records in the breast stroke. She swam for Dick Smith in Phoenix. She was 18. Upon her introduction, Scientology did quick miracles with her. By this time the framework of the organizations was in place, and Hubbard had a respectful following.
SHE did the miracles herself it is HER acomplishement and following a leaderfag like mindless adepts is nothing to respect.
MEW got involved with Scientology after a marriage fell apart. She was OT when I met her. She was quite in command of her life. Some of that is definitely a reflection of the workability of the auditing that she had gotten.
Do not forget the support of and the belonging to a group, OT is alsoo just a concept or label like Status. What is gained can be lost. Like "Clear" it is no absolute. It's a concept and even a construct as a word. What one time is clear can get foggy again. OT gained can get lost again. Why ? because it is a artificial thought up term.
My friend, SF, and I, for years before we heard of Scientology, would sit for hours at a time, several times a week, just looking at one another - not talking. Similar to, but better than TR 0 from Scientology. As beings, we would get huge. When we got involved with Scientology, the momentum was just really getting into gear. We were just kids.
Getting huge as a being is just your perception. It is wonderful but it is still onley in your mind. Oh and congratulations on having discovered a buddist method (TR0). Oh and congrats on the other TR's Are they still in ? Training Routines follow the same concept as training Pavlov's dog.
Both of us had our personal issues. By 1971, those issues were behind us because of Scientology auditing. My girl friend, MEW, said at the time (before she was my girl friend) that I went down to LA, "a boy," and returned "a man." The Solo Grade 6 Course and the Clearing Course are probably the most valuable things I've done for myself, that I know of. There is no way on Earth that I could have ever come up with them independently at my age then. The whole effect was most impressive.
Congratulations. I am glad they are avalable in the Freezone now at low costs
In all of these examples, LRH is older and gets our "free pass" because of our personal wins.
And this may well be the "crux"of the problem. It is understandable. Own gain often wins out over the "bad stuff that is happening wich often times is not believed.
I see us all as spiritual beings. Drugs (grass and acid, other psychedelics) had popped lots of us out of our heads.
HALLUCINATIONS , Your new drug of choiche was just called Scientology. On the spiritual beings thing, Yes I agree but get over your delussional self-hypnotizing regarding to popping out of your head
We are all connected. MEW and I could verbally agree to meet at noon at the Scientology center. We would both arrive within a minute or two of each other at 3. This was long before cell phones.
Nothing remotely special unless you ment to write non-verbally
As early as when I was in 6th grade, I could turn to the exact page in a dictionary for the word I was looking for.
You are not the onley one but that comes in real handy
My wife and I often answer phones without Caller ID, knowing exactly who is phoning.
seen and heard that before, no biggy
The Beatles sensed that they were connected to everyone. I think I read that in Playboy interview.
Many sense that before the get old, cynical and stuck in their ways
My feeling is that LRH got the right combination for Book One (DMSMH) close enough to the truth from the great ether of our connectedness. Just as SF and I got TR 0 better than right prior to Scientology, he got older knowledge, and put it into writing and practice.
At least he acknowledges his sources somewhat in the first edition that changed later. Although it obscures the real processes in the brain it must have been pretty novel for it's time
MEW, as an archaeologist, told me of groups in Attic Greece that had processes that rendered the students more able much like the power processes did for the preclears of the 1960s.
intresting do you have a link ?
I remember auditing a preclear, Larry Dahlquist, on the death of his father, the day before. The feeling I had was that of being "home" as a being. Auditing was the most natural activity for me. Much like the Beatles have been musicians for millennia, I have audited forever. it is a part of me.
Have you asked the beatles that ?
As the processes of Scientology reached their magic on a critical mass of people, the Scientology rumor line was deadly accurate. PCS's sister phoned him telling him she'd heard he was leaving one center, and going to another before he had even decided to do it.
Seems like scuttlebuck and gossiping round the waterfountain, again nothing new or magical or inherent to the scientology organization exlusively. "
When we Scientologists across the world really connected, you could walk into any center or org and feel welcome and safe (except probably Flag).
I am sure you did but it has a too high of a treehugging factor for me. I creeps me out. But maybe that's just me
The rumor line was so good that even in 1969, as a lowly staff member, I knew lots of dirt on LRH.
Did you know he ordered an R2-45 on 12 people back than ? Or that he liked putting lil kids in chain-lockers back in 1968?
What I wanted for myself, I got, ie. Clear and auditor training. Both commodities are valuable to me today.
Clear is a concept not an absolute. And congratulations that you got what you wanted. But OT and Clear are figments of the mind.
My thinking is that the quality of connectedness was too close of an approximation to the earlier oneness that we had all shared well prior to the physical universe. Alan Walter called this universe the Heavens Universe. When that universe broke apart, it was a traumatic event. The mass exodus of tens of thousands from the Co$ in the 80-82 period is, as I see it, a harmonic of the Heavens Universe break up. Many roles were relived as new, but were rooted in an age old event. As each of us individuated from the group consciousness, we started the process of dissolving the one time harmony. It's Camelot one more time.
Wow you are pretty persistant. You could write fiction
I had seen it in the Haight Ashbury in 1968. The Summer of Love in the Haight went quickly to meth and harder drugs. My girl friend and I were at The Beatles' movie, Magical Mystery Tour. Fifteen minutes after we bought our tickets, and were seated, someone was killed (murdered) in the line we had just been in. Love had turned to hate in less than three years.
Summer of love is massively glorrified, Normal hard reality was still moving along as usuall.
The story is rooted in spiritual beings and our ability to connect and harmonize and, conversely, to individuate and attempt manipulation, domination of and / or become subjugated by others.
What I get is that you got out of it what you wanted and lard it with a lot of fuzzy wuzzy rose colloured views.
Overall the personal gains do not justify the mindfuck and abuses purpetrated.
Even today when you talk about the abuse that goes on in Scientology it goes: "But what about MY wins, MY gains that proofs it does more good than harm"