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ABC Lateline TONIGHT - Imprisonment on the Freewinds - 2011-11-28

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Gottabrain

Guest
:wow::wow::wow:

That was a terrific news cast! GREAT JOB, Romana and Valeska!
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Steve Cannene is also my hero. So much more handsome than Tommy Davis, and brave, too. Go Aus media! Go ABC!

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Romana and Valeska, Thank you very much for coming out and telling the truth on television. I know how intimidating and scary it is to speak out for the first time against COS, but you young ladies looked terrific, spoke well, and got your stories across beautifully. The program brought tears to my eyes.

I hope you both get the opportunity to meet the rest of the ex's here in Aus, if you haven't already, because they're amazing, wonderful, warm people who will support your fight against the Cult in every way.

Would you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post your escape story for us, too? :begging:

I hope you plan to sue COS for everything you can and name every person responsible for your kidnapping and abuse, too.
 

FoTi

Crusader
So, how many gaggles of "just a handful of apostates" does it take to arouse the justice system?? I'm starting to wonder if the justice system has less brains than the slimentologists. :grouch::grouch::duh:

The Justice System does include people that could care less about what happens with the Church of Scientology or it's victims.....and some who can be bought off by the CoS with all the money that DM collects in donos from Scientologists who are still involved with the CoS.

It can't be assumed that the Justice System is full of honest people that want to see real justice done. Brains do not necessarily determine the level of honesty or integrity that a person has. There are some very smart and clever criminals in this world....in society, and in our government as well as in Scientology.
 

FoTi

Crusader
I really like that post. And that line in particular:

Lives destroyed ... and families wrecked and for what? So that some tin pot guru wannabee criminal could steal money and smirk knowingly while doing it?


Yet more proof that there are no OTs.

Because it's the OT's in Scientology who think that Miscavige is OT.

The OT's stand up and cheer for a criminally insane liar who defrauds them, steals from them, beats them, disconnects them, bankrupts them, terrorizes them and fair games them.

Anybody have any other questions on how we know that there are no OTs?

Why do the OTs think DM is OT?

Thanks to all who speak out publicly and let the truth be known. They are all heroes and heroines.
 
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Sindy

Crusader
I really like that post. And that line in particular:

Lives destroyed ... and families wrecked and for what? So that some tin pot guru wannabee criminal could steal money and smirk knowingly while doing it?


Yet more proof that there are no OTs.

Because it's the OT's in Scientology who think that Miscavige is OT.

The OT's stand up and cheer for a criminally insane liar who defrauds them, steals from them, beats them, disconnects them, bankrupts them, terrorizes them and fair games them.

Anybody have any other questions on how we know that there are no OTs?

A big shot SO member (one that many know) told me that he thought DM was like god. He was TOTALLY serious. Some of these people revere him like a deity. I am not kidding.
 

Zhent

Leakus Maximus
SCIENTOLOGY CRUISE SHIP SCANDAL

The win keeps rolling in with this A Current Affair report!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez-SBtRrYmU

Really impressed with ACA on this, instead of just regurgitating the Lateline report they actually added and complemented it in an excellent way, fleshing out the story in ways Lateline might have skimped over. And they even interviewed Steve Cannane!

Reporter was Nick Coe.

Well done ACA, keep kicking some cult ass! :thumbsup:

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/investigations/8381873/scientology-abduction-claims
 
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scooter

Gold Meritorious Patron
Hi mate, if I remember correctly, Ramana is one of Jancis' daughters.

Your memory is working just fine, Panda.:biggrin:

Go ACA - great report that spells it out and does enhance what Steve Cannane said. :thumbsup:

Feeling the heat, Wee Davey? :roflmao:

There's more to come yet :shark:
 

Kookaburra

Gold Meritorious Patron
A big shot SO member (one that many know) told me that he thought DM was like god. He was TOTALLY serious. Some of these people revere him like a deity. I am not kidding.

OH dear! :melodramatic:

It's hard to imagine how anyone could be that far gone.
 

Kookaburra

Gold Meritorious Patron
SCIENTOLOGY CRUISE SHIP SCANDAL

The win keeps rolling in with this A Current Affair report!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez-SBtRrYmU

Really impressed with ACA on this, instead of just regurgitating the Lateline report they actually added and complemented it in an excellent way, fleshing out the story in ways Lateline might have skimped over. And they even interviewed Steve Cannane!

Reporter was Nick Coe.

Well done ACA, keep kicking some cult ass! :thumbsup:

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/investigations/8381873/scientology-abduction-claims

This is great! It seems that James Packer has totally lost control of what Channel 9 says about Scientology.

For those overseas who are used to dozens of TV channels, Australia only has 5 major ones. The ABC and Channel 7 (Bryan Seymour) have been giving Scn a roasting. Now Channel 9 joins in, we have the majority with CoS firmly in their sights. :yes: :biggrin:
 

Happy Days

Silver Meritorious Patron
Great segment on ACA.... what a week we are having :biggrin:

Valeska telling her story is so wonderful. She was Jordi's sec check auditor after we demanded the SO/cult give our girl back. So Valeska is very aware of what occurred during Jordi's last 4 days of hell. :angry::angry:

In speaking out she also validates Jordi's recent article of sleep deprivation, hard labour and disconnection.

So we are very very grateful to Valeska for sure :hug:
 

Infinite

Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
Brave exes are brave . . .

First they took her father's fortune, then they took his life, then they took her mother's daughter, then they took the best years of the daughter's life and set her to work in a ship's bilge . . . "new realms of freedom indeed":

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. . . and when it was over, even amongst her captors, there was a friend who came to support her speaking up and bring to the world a story of how the human spirit can survive even the engine room of Scientology's hell:

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. . . who else is there now and how much longer must they wait?
 

Feral

Rogue male
Valeska was terrific. I think the world of the Guiders and their little boy Declan is a real charmer.

Of course the cult denies all of the accusations in this statemant that I lifted from the ACA website;

"The claims made Valeska Paris and about her time aboard the Freewinds religious retreat are incorrect and her claims are baseless. Ms Paris was a member of the Church of Scientology’s clergy and she was a minister and trained counsellor.

"Ms. Guider was a member of the crew through 2007 and there is evidence of her selfdetermined, willing and continued participation as a volunteer staff member on The Freewinds."

Seriously, was the Cof$ PR that wrote that drunk? They're not even trying anymore.

In any case as you can see it never happened, just like this other time it never happened;

Don Jason escapes
 

Arthur Dent

Silver Meritorious Patron
It's good to see the slavery and human trafficking of scientology, being exposed.

Yes it most certainly is! :yes: Romana and Valeska are brave and they did a fabulous job on camera. And Kudos to the Australian press! :clap:

I am wondering if there is a lawsuit? Will there be one? I just want to see some legal justice on their behalf (and others). Anyone know? It's getting to be so long overdue. Story after story after story of criminality perpetrated by the cult and, yet, where are the handcuffs?? :confused2:
 

jenni with an eye

Silver Meritorious Patron
SCIENTOLOGY CRUISE SHIP SCANDAL

The win keeps rolling in with this A Current Affair report!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez-SBtRrYmU

Really impressed with ACA on this, instead of just regurgitating the Lateline report they actually added and complemented it in an excellent way, fleshing out the story in ways Lateline might have skimped over. And they even interviewed Steve Cannane!

Reporter was Nick Coe.

Well done ACA, keep kicking some cult ass! :thumbsup:

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/investigations/8381873/scientology-abduction-claims

Thanks Zhent for putting this up, I've just watched it.

I thought the choice of background music chosen by the ACA producer to be priceless...starts off with a tribute to the theme from 'The Love Boat' followed by an insertion of the "Titanic' theme and then back to the 'Love Boat' :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

Ain't much love on that boat...and yes the whole cofs is sinking
:shark::shark::shark::shark:
 

Cherished

Silver Meritorious Patron
Valeska was terrific. I think the world of the Guiders and their little boy Declan is a real charmer.

Of course the cult denies all of the accusations in this statemant that I lifted from the ACA website;



Seriously, was the Cof$ PR that wrote that drunk? They're not even trying anymore.

In any case as you can see it never happened, just like this other time it never happened;

Don Jason escapes
Interestingly, Valeska was taken to the ship THE SAME YEAR THAT DON JASON ESCAPED FROM IT!
 

mnql1

Patron Meritorious
Translation of a French article posted on Nov. 29, 2011 on the website of the Swiss daily newspaper Le Matin:
La Genevoise esclave du bateau des scientologues
The Genevan woman who was a slave aboard the Scientology ship

by Renaud Malik
November 29, 2011

For 12 years, Valeska was held against her will on the "Freewinds", Scientology's floating headquarters. She talked to Le Matin about her long ordeal.



Photo caption: Behind its impressive conference rooms, some say, the ship holds Scientology's secret documents. © DR

What exactly is hidden inside the "Freewinds", the luxurious yacht that cruises the Caribbean, flying the colours of Scientology? For some, it is a place of retreat and study. For others, it is a "floating Vatican" said to house the organisation's secret documents. The reality may be far more disturbing, if one believes the story that Valeska Guider told a few days ago on the American [sic] ABC network. This woman, who is originally from Geneva, explained that she was detained for twelve years on the "Freewinds".

When contacted by Le Matin, the 34-year-old former Scientologist forcefully stated that she was taken to the ship against her will in 1996, and that she led the life of a "slave" until she was transferred in 2007. It was this long ordeal that decided her to finally leave the organisation in which she was immersed from a very early age.

Valeska was born into Scientology. "My parents, Ariane and Jean-François, were both members of the church. I have fond memories of my first years in Geneva. My life was turned upside down when I was 6 years old, in 1983." Her parents divorced, her father obtained custody of the children, and he decided to send them to England, to a Scientology centre that had a boarding school. For Valeska, it was the beginning of a life of chores: "We were worked to exhaustion, my sister and I. It was unbearable." Her respite was the vacations in Meyrin (Canton of Geneva) with her mother and her new husband, Albert Jacquier, a wealthy Genevan Scientologist. "We enjoyed spending time in that house where we could eat well and sleep in heated rooms!"

Little by little, Valeska became accustomed to a life dedicated to the cause of Scientology. In 1992, at the age of 14, she decided to join the Sea Org, Scientology's elite corps. She signed the famous "billion-year contract" that is imposed on all its members. "I had always heard that dedication to the Sea Org was a way to help humanity. I believed it." She then went to Clearwater, the Sea Org's land base in Florida. There, once again, her mission consisted of housekeeping chores - mostly laundry and ironing - for senior executives. A convict's life? Perhaps. But, at that time, Valeska was still consenting.

Maternal influence

Everything changed in 1996 when Valeska's mother publicly broke with the organisation, going so far as to tell the TF1 television channel about how Scientology had stolen her children. She was then declared "suppressive" (antisocial). The mother still tried to remain in contact with Valeska. The Sea Org's decision was irrevocable: the young woman had to embark on the "Freewinds" to escape her mother's influence. "I was told it would only be for two weeks," recalls Valeska.

Soon after her arrival on the ship, she could not help showing resistance. She paid for this by being assigned exhausting work and by being constantly monitored. "I was put to work on ship maintenance, and then as a waitress in the restaurant. I worked every single day for 50 dollars a week. I couldn't walk off the ship unless I was accompanied, and I had to ask for permission to have a day off." Sometimes, she says, she tried to rebel. But escaping was totally impossible: "My passport was confiscated, I had no bank account. I was in the middle of nowhere, and a guard was watching the ship. I didn't know where my parents were. I wouldn't have known where to go."

Her salvation came from her repeated disobedience. In December 2007, she was sent to Australia for a period of "rehabilitation". There she met her present husband, Chris. "We got married in secret in March 2009. A month later, we left Scientology." Today, she still lives in Australia with her husband and their little boy. She is more determined than ever to alert the public to her past as a "slave". She is also aware that her testimony might have an impact on trials against Scientology in Australia or in France.

The leaders of the organisation, however, are seeking to minimise her story. "It's an isolated case," the spokeswoman for Scientology in western Switzerland, Francine Bielawski says dismissively. An isolated case, really? The president of the Switzerland's Inter-Cantonal Centre for Information on Beliefs (CIC - Centre intercantonal d’information sur les croyances), Brigitte Knobel, emphasizes that other cases of forced labor in Scientology "have been brought to the attention of judicial authorities". Valeska is convinced that others have experienced the same fate as she did. "And I will do everything I can to make it known."
 
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Gottabrain

Guest
Valeska is just going OFF, with WORLDWIDE major media, blowing the place up like a New Year's celebration!

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This young lady has some real drive, courage and integrity. She's doing a terrific job with all these interviews. YOU GO GIRL! WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN!

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