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ABC News: Scientology shatters families and enforces Disconnection!

Discussion in 'Fair Game and Disconnection Victims' started by Knows, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. of course the organ grinder is presumed to be in the room but fukk 'em...
  2. by the way, you're a newbie here and welcome!

    nice to see you jumping right on in!

    i don't know how much lurking you've done but william birdwood posting as commander birdsong is a one-of-a-kind on esmb. like anyone, you are entirely welcome to swing from the hips in responding to anything i say. i'm easygoing and difficult to offend


    welcome xenuphobe!
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2014
  3. yeah...

    now using lisa's death to go after CoS contretemps and peccadilloes is whole other animal

    this respects and honors her life work...

    aw right...

    of course first off, we're not sure it happened. though i can't offhand give details of the report i do recall it looked credible when i read it an i tend to believe it happened

    whoops! time running out

    be back soo
  4. MrNobody

    MrNobody Who needs merits?

    The fact that your blinders don't bother you enough for you to even notice them, doesn't mean that you aren't wearing them.

    This might be true. Or not - how would I know?

    As far as your "intelligent comprehension" skills go, jus' let me say that I have my valid doubts about that.

    You are twisting facts here, pal.

    DOX or GTFO.

    Twisting facts again.

    Look, William or whatever your name is... Why is it that you need to identify yourself as an "auditor"? Isn't there any chance for you to find anything truly worthwhile to do with your life? Can you really produce more and better "life-changing" results with your "auditing" than I can produce during let's say a 5-minute-conversation with a random cashiers lady in some random supermarket? Is there anything that makes your "auditing" better, more effective, whatever, than a normal, friendly, honest and open conversation between two people?

    I still have to see that.
  5. i am a cabdriver for forty years

    i am noted poet who has worked with a small press organ more than thirty years

    my pro bono work has twice been featured on CBS's "60 Minutes"

    i am a military veteran whose talents and expertise have been engaged by the american intelligence community

    and my resume goes on quite a bit further

    and it includes formal training and practice as a dianetic/scientology auditor which has enabled me to produce some very remarkable results
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2014
  6. MrNobody

    MrNobody Who needs merits?

    :lol: And still, you haven't managed to answer any of my questions. :biggrin:
  7. i answered each question individually

    take another look. i'm toulouse low tek and can't do the colored script thing etc. but if you look at the post my response to each question is in the same script as the question
  8. hmmm...

    lemme edit the rwq to make the answers more legible...
  9. actually...

    if you take a look at my writing it's not case closed for me

    i'm right here talking about it


    if any evidence to support a charge of murder were to arise the case could be reopened

    as far as a verdict goes...

    there's actually no verdict. the civil case was ended with an undisclosed settlement and the criminal charges were dropped

    why would anyone be "outraged over this murder" when there is no evidence to indicate murder

    and if you want to be outraged over the wrongful death it is fitting and proper to criticize CoS for it's practices or procedures but if anyone can dispute the statement that using lisa's wrongful death to assault her life's work is a vile and ignoble act...

    that person has yet to post on this thread
  10. Lamb

    Lamb Patron with Honors

    Too bad there is no emoticon for "talk to the hand"...there is no point in talking to you because your preconceived notions have a solid curtain all around.
  11. Intentionally Blank

    Intentionally Blank Scientology Widow

    Here's how I see it. None of us knows what how Lisa felt about scn during her final days. That she made cos her life's work may be, as you say, indisputable. But it is certainly not unheard of for someone to have a change of mind at heart during the last days of their life -- especially if those final days are needlessly painful and hastened due to the neglect of what was one's life work.

    In truth - none of us knows how Lisa felt about scn during her final days and moments.

  12. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    whitewashing the COS's responsibilities about how she died is what is vile.
    I repeat, vile.
  13. it would appear lamb, that in this post you are talking to yourself
  14. this is a point to be considered

    in fact we do know lisa was fighting with her attendant/captors. it is doubtless possible and i would be among those who would think it likely that if lisa had broken free and recovered she would today be one of the vehement posters here on esmb


    this is conjecture

    if we are to act in accord with the noble forms we must respect that lisa's life work was scientology
  15. and who is whitewashing CoS's responsibilities?
  16. and just by the way...

    CoS is SCREWING!!!! lisa's life work all to hell and gone

    to say nothing of MY life work

    and for the benefit of any newcomers let me note once again CoS is partially culpable in the wrongful death of my beloved first born son
  17. Intentionally Blank

    Intentionally Blank Scientology Widow

    So...... perhaps Lisa would not find it abhorrent that her death is used to show up the destructive work of the cos?
  18. Ogsonofgroo

    Ogsonofgroo Crusader



    A person driven insane, used, abused, reaped & pillaged to her very last cent...... I may not know her exact feelings (if she was even able to have any... :( ) but I pretty sure it wasn't 'Oh gee, scientology, what a nice group.'

  19. no, not at all. one presumes she would be entirely in favor of showing up the destructive works. would she also be someone who would entirely denounce the subject? we don't know. we do know men and women are different and probably most battle of the sexes experts would say she would be more likely to be totally anti-scn today than a man
  20. JBWriter

    JBWriter Happy Sapien

    For those who'd like to learn more about the last days of Lisa McPherson's life, please read the contents of the 'care' logs* here:

    None of the people serving as 'baby watchers' directly asked Ms. McPherson what she thought about scientology and/or the efficacy of scientology-based 'treatment'.


    *Note: Some of the pages/entries were not submitted to the court @ that time and are presumed to have been forever 'lost'.