I'd like to see an "Advance" from the last few years since the Anons started protesting.
From that date their was a new rash of defections that would surely show in the completion numbers, however bolstered they are from Dave's bogus "Basic completions"
Yes recent mags would be great and a worthy project. I agree when stats are down they tend to fill the pages with Div 6 type courses. When did a AO start delivering Div 6 courses? -- Obvious stat push for comps when they don't have them.
The information would be great, not just for us to see, but to promote to those still in what the stats actually look like over the long term. You never know what's going to break the wall of indoctrination. I'm thinking hard core stats might crack a few and it's one of the reasons I do this project.
http://www.filestube.com/look_for.html?q=scientology&select=zip will show a whole bunch of uploaded Scn mags. Maybe you uploaded them all yourself, but it might be worth a look if you haven't already done so.
Paul
What can I say? Yes, a lot have now left and many (too many) have died.Shit! I'm still not listed in HORTON!
I finished my metering course around 1998 at AOSH ANZO but you mustn't have that mag.
A LOT of these completions are folks who have left. Panda & Scooter will be able to give more analysis.
Thanks for posting these!
I have a resource for current Mags, I'll round 'em up and post 'em off.
Very interesting! Not many names I recognise except for Steve Stevens who completed a couple of book courses. Could it be THAT Steve Stevens redoing the basics?
I calculate 229 completions and 135 unique names, of whom 84 appear only once, leaving 51 repeat completions, ie people who did more than one course.
Not such a great result, really, given the cost of delivering the services ... not what you'd call viable.
Yes, that'd be Steve. A lot of the old hands hold the AO off by doing Basic Book Extension Courses (where you don't have to physically show up at the AO, just send in your answers a la Correspondence Course). It's a relatively painless way of placating the demand for participation in scientology. I've done it myself.Very interesting! Not many names I recognise except for Steve Stevens who completed a couple of book courses. Could it be THAT Steve Stevens redoing the basics?
I calculate 229 completions and 135 unique names, of whom 84 appear only once, leaving 51 repeat completions, ie people who did more than one course.
Not such a great result, really, given the cost of delivering the services ... not what you'd call viable.
Yes, that'd be Steve. A lot of the old hands hold the AO off by doing Basic Book Extension Courses (where you don't have to physically show up at the AO, just send in your answers a la Correspondence Course). It's a relatively painless way of placating the demand for participation in scientology. I've done it myself.
Yes, that'd be Steve. A lot of the old hands hold the AO off by doing Basic Book Extension Courses (where you don't have to physically show up at the AO, just send in your answers a la Correspondence Course). It's a relatively painless way of placating the demand for participation in scientology. I've done it myself.
There seems to be a problem with the Advance 200 page.
Eg, SCIENTOLOGY LIFE IMPROVEMENT COURSES is listed twice, and Bianca (Yun-Jung) Hu is listed 3 times for the same course.
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/advance-anzo/advance-anzo-200.html
Norman O'Leary's page is also broken - http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/n/norman-o’leary.html
Edit: wow check out Hiroko Fukuda's page - http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/h/hiroko-fukuda.html Thats a lot of completions. And note some of the double ups where they try and pad out their stats over different issues.
BTW I have noticed a number of names, for example Rebecca Collen - http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/k/keiko-jefford.html , have a number of OT completions in the same issue. For example OT ELIGIBILITY, OT III, NEW OT IV. How does that work? Shouldn't such a process take a long time? Are they fudging the stats big time?
More lulz: Truls Foshaug did Study Certainty in 1998, then again in 2007, looks like he wasn't so certain about it after all!
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/t/truls-foshaug.html
It occasionally happens that a magazine lumps all the Life Improvement Courses into one big list rather than saying which Life Improvement Courses-- there 20 or so of them -- That's why you see the names listed more than once.
Very generally speaking.
OT I takes less than a week
OT II takes a couple of weeks
OT III takes a couple of weeks to a couple of months
OT IV takes less than a week.
OT V- can take months and a lot of money
OT VI can take many months
OT VII-- many years
OT VIII a couple of weeks.
Again that's general and some take much less or much longer.