Re: Adventures with scnforum.org-- I really would like to get some feedback from you
I came by to check out what's happening in the outskirts of Scientology - only to discover a big thread about a forum I started 18 months ago.
I think Mark hit the mark and that Panda is doing some intense but graceful Kung-fu.
The forum have two value as as I see it; Discussion on Scientology in a space where Scientologists are treated with respect and where logic rules the day - and to keep for posterity important knowledge that has surfaced on the board's discussions.
Fine, Geir, but that should be happening here on ESMB. I shouldn't have to go to another board to find it. If it isn't happening here, then there's something wrong IMO. Respect for people as people should be the sine qua non of everything that takes place here.
I see a red flag here though. By "respect," some people would take that to mean that no one has the right to challenge other people's sacred cows. That was my problem with John Nunez's board - he didn't want anyone posting anything about LRH or the Tech which he didn't like, irrespective of whether it was true or not.
Some would say that "we're all entitled to our own viewpoints"; sure we are, but some viewpoints approximate more closely to Truth than others (a damn sight more closely in some cases), and without seeing discussions in which all get to have their say you're not going to know which is which.
The closer you get to the truth of how the mind actually works, the better the results you're likely to get, and that's why it matters to find out and then practice that knowledge when you find it or follow the guidance of someone who does have that knowledge.
For example, some people say on here that you don't need to run your Grades - all you need are some caring friends to talk to. Sure, caring friends can help, but caring friends coming round to help you fix your house aren't necessarily going to have the same skills and knowledge as a professional and it's the same with counselling or auditing.
Another one - can you do it all on your own (as, say, Pilot used to maintain) or do you need someone else to work with you at least some of the time? Another very vexed question on here and I've seen passionately held views on both sides.
We should all be able to have our say and then agree to differ if needs be without the whole thing deteriorating into a slanging match. IMO, things are far less likely to get personal if we all realise from the outset that all - yes ALL - of us are whistling in the dark to some extent and no one knows everything about the mind and spirit.
It's impossible on this low vibration plane IMO. To quote Corinthians 13, "Now we see through a glass darkly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I am known."