Am I OT?

[Mimsey Borogrove]

I think this thread should become a conversation with Mimsey.

Oh - my apologies for my attempt at humor on your earlier post - in hind sight it was in bad taste.

I did originate the thread, and I did get my knickers in a twist more than once in the passion of the moment - it (the nature of the spirit etc.) is a subject near and dear to my heart... Sigh. My bad.

Best, Mimsey

 

[oneonewasaracecar]

Oh - my apologies for my attempt at humor on your earlier post - in hind sight it was in bad taste.

I did originate the thread, and I did get my knickers in a twist more than once in the passion of the moment - it (the nature of the spirit etc.) is a subject near and dear to my heart... Sigh. My bad.

Best, Mimsey

Protip: in moments of passion men should always take off their underpants very slowly and carefully. G-strings are particularly dangerous. The vasectomy was not so much pioneered as discovered. True story.

 

[Anonycat]

Protip: in moments of passion men should always take off their underpants very slowly and carefully. G-strings are particularly dangerous. The vasectomy was not so much pioneered as discovered. True story.

Please expand on this.

And Mimsey, I have you on Ignore, so no need to direct a comment to me. I can only see your posts when someone else has it in their reply.

 

[oneonewasaracecar]

Please expand on this.

And Mimsey, I have you on Ignore, so no need to direct a comment to me. I can only see your posts when someone else has it in their reply.

I am going to resist the temptation to make a serious of very tasteless expansion jokes.

 

[strativarius]

Protip: in moments of passion men should always take off their underpants very slowly and carefully. G-strings are particularly dangerous. The vasectomy was not so much pioneered as discovered. True story.

Any man who wears a G-string deserves everything they get IMO.

Edit: And tight-whites as well for that matter (this from a [strike]died[/strike] dyed in the wool commando)!

 

[Dulloldfart]

Have you ever read Zecharia Sitchin? He wrote The 12th Planet, among others. The books are about his studies of the Sumarian tablets he translated. They go into ancient aliens that have visited our planet many times in the past.

Yeah. I really liked his books -- with some reservations about Nibiru -- until that sitchiniswrong guy with his website came along. Shame.

Paul

 

[Bost_Bobby]

The King James version has no 'we' in the Genesis creation stories. I don't know what version you mean, but it sounds a bit goofy that way. AFAIK, the King James version is still the best translation. There are two creation stories, Genesis I and Genesis II. They don't mesh together perfectly, either. In one God creates man and woman at the same time, in the other, God offered animals as mates for Adam, Adam refused, so he took a rib from him and created a woman. Eh. Too incredulous to take either one literally.

The Trinity idea is ancient and its first (known) origin is in Hinduism.

On a quick smoke break from work I found this site. May not be the greatest.
http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-26.htm

 

[Mimsey Borogrove]

Please expand on this.

And Mimsey, I have you on Ignore, so no need to direct a comment to me. I can only see your posts when someone else has it in their reply.

As you wish, Buttercup.

 

[Leland]

As you wish, Buttercup.

Is this an outing Mimsey?

 

[uncover]

Is this an outing Mimsey?

What, this is Mimsey ?

Westley from "The Princess Bride" ?​

And he is outing himself with a two year old picture from ..... BuzzFeed ?

 

[Mimsey Borogrove]

What, this is Mimsey ? And he is outing himself with a two year old picture from ..... Buzzfeed ?

See what taking a lot of vites can do for you? My latest I'm taking is L serine:

L-serine is a non-essential amino acid. It is formed from another amino acid called glycine. Serine is important for both mental and physical health. It has a critical role in ensuring that the central nervous system and the brain are functioning correctly.

Obviously the brain part is a failure, but looking as hot as I do now....

Mimsey

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

The consensus of Biblical scholars is that Adam and Eve were Russians.

They had no clothes. They had no house. They had no car. They had no jobs.

And they thought they lived in paradise. (I kid the Ruskies)

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[JustSheila]

The consensus of Biblical scholars is that Adam and Eve were Russians.

They had no clothes. They had no house. They had no car. They had no jobs.

And they thought they lived in paradise. (I kid the Ruskies)

The Anabaptist Jacques

I always got a kick out of the part where God offers Adam animals as mates...

Why did the animals already have ready-made mates? Was God teasing Adam, or telling him he was no better than the animals?

Then there was always the question of the missing belly button.

ADDED: This is why Christian cults insist on interpreting the Bible FOR people, so they can't see the contradictions in the original when they take it literally.

 

[uncover]

The consensus of Biblical scholars is that Adam and Eve were Russians.

They had no clothes. They had no house. They had no car. They had no jobs.

And they thought they lived in paradise. (I kid the Ruskies)
.....

Then Adam and Eve must have been Americans.
Americans don't own a house: after ~ 10 years of property tax they have paid for their house a second time.
Americans don't own a car: Have a look at the number of (non-performing) subprime car-loans and then you will know who is the real owner of the cars.
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.c...rime-delinquencies-rising-on-the-dealer-lots/
Americans don't have enough jobs: otherwise there would not live ~ 20% of the population on food stamps.

But they think they live in paradise because they can vote e.g. for the corrupt Clinton-clan (and else).

 

[strativarius]

I always got a kick out of the part where God offers Adam animals as mates...

<snip>

I'm far from being a bible scholar, but doesn't it say somewhere that anyone who lies with an animal should be put to death, and isn't that at odds with what you're saying god said?

 

[JustSheila]

I'm far from being a bible scholar, but doesn't it say somewhere that anyone who lies with an animal should be put to death?

Yeh. It was a trap.

(or just another of those senseless contradictions. If Adam was so innocent from the getgo, why would God make a suggestion like that anyway? This was pre-Apple/original sin stuff)

 

[strativarius]

Yeh. It was a trap.

(or just another of those senseless contradictions. If Adam was so innocent from the getgo, why would God make a suggestion like that anyway? This was pre-Apple/original sin stuff)

Well, unfortunately for me I'm none the wiser since you don't seem to have made up your mind which was the case. BTW, there is nothing about apples in genesis, just 'fruit'.

 

[JustSheila]

Well, unfortunately for me I'm none the wiser since you don't seem to have made up your mind which was the case. BTW, there is nothing about apples in genesis, just 'fruit'.

True about the fruit.

I don’t understand the rest of your comment. I was pointing out the contradiction. In one Genesis story, Adam is superior to the animals, but in the other he is offered animals for mating, suggesting God didn’t see him as anything more than an animal in the first place. The two Genesis stories contradict each other in huge ways.

Of course humans having sex with animals is horrible, disgusting and wrong. That goes without saying. Don’t read into things.
I don’t take the Bible literally, but the New Testament definitely beats the Old Testament and Jesus was pretty cool. The Christian church not so much.

 

[strativarius]

True about the fruit.

There's no intellectual overdrive allowed here on esmb JS, you know that.

I don’t understand the rest of your comment. I was pointing out the contradiction. In one Genesis story, Adam is superior to the animals, but in the other he is offered animals for mating, suggesting God didn’t see him as anything more than an animal in the first place. The two Genesis stories contradict each other in huge ways.

Perhaps the 'later data' rule should apply.

Of course humans having sex with animals is horrible, disgusting and wrong. That goes without saying. Don’t read into things.
I don’t take the Bible literally, but the New Testament definitely beats the Old Testament and Jesus was pretty cool. The Christian church not so much.

I don't know, but I'm guessing the 'put to death' clause sounds a bit 'old testament' to me.

 

[JustSheila]

There's no intellectual overdrive allowed here on esmb JS, you know that.

Perhaps the 'later data' rule should apply.

I don't know, but I'm guessing the 'put to death' clause sounds a bit 'old testament' to me.

Yup, Old Testament, but I’m rusty on it. Probably Leviticus. Ah, found it:

Leviticus 20:16

If there is a woman who approaches any animal to mate with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.

There is a similar Old Testament quote in Leviticus against homosexuality, too. Then there are quotes in the Bible both condoning and prohibiting polygamy. And they were always stoning women to death for something or other, too. Genesis is Old Testament, too, btw.

IMO, It’s too hard to take much out of the Old Testament besides the history of the Israelites family lineage and understanding it in a cultural background context. There were some good ideas about avoiding diseases there though, since it was pre-antibiotics and before hygiene standards were known. The Ten Commandments are good, too.

As for Jesus, he taught some solid moral lessons. He spoke in parables, though. Stories can be effective that way and always have been. The problem is when they are taken literally or when churches manipulate others with the ol' "your eternity is at stake" and through their communities.