America is broken...

[Bill]

Anyone on ESMB who LOANS me $100 will get back $110 within the year.

Birdy, I like you and wish you very well on this venture -- but, given what I know about your grasp on reality ("Hubbard was a genius" and your belief that you have OT powers due to Hubbard's "tech"), I'll pass.

 

[phenomanon]

So anyway...within one year (along with a C-note) and over the next ten years receive somewhere between $100,000 and $15,000 in cash and stock sitting around waiting for you to stop by the house for dinner and a pleasant evening's conversation.

But the web monitor's senior is pulling out Ron's writings on SP's telling them "Remember! SP's love practical jokes! This obvious pie-in-the-sky scam! There's no big payday. He's just a DB living on the street!!!"

Are they going to crap in their pants when they see me on CBS's "Sixty Minutes" in early December?

Want to see me tighten the screws a little bit harder?

Stay tuned.

So anyway...

The thing that really cracks me up is watching the scilons and the antiscilons falling all over themselves trying to outstupid each other.

Obviously the OSA web monitor has his nose up my ass and has from post one in 2010 when he/she/it learned I was married to Greg Wilhere's sister and held him and CoS accountable for the wrongful death AND subsequent AND continuing coverup of my first born son (ticktickticktickticktick). They know who I am and where I am and when they don't they're getting PI's to track me down PRONTO!

Now any one of them who reads my current posts knows if they come up to me with $1000 they'll get the grand back within one year (along with a C-note) and over the next ten years receive somewhere between $100,000 and one million bucks.

They gotta be squirming..,

They gotta be begging their seniors who are telling them that I'm nothing but an entheta DB, SP out-ethics piece of SHIT and sticking their noses into the "dead agent" pack...

Heehee...

Which I intentionally salted with some (picayune, humdrum) SALACIOUS! SCANDALOUS! DREADFULLY PEJORATIVE material!!!

Telling them it's a hoax and a sham when anyone with two brain cells to rub together would be all over this and telling their friends to get on to the gravy train.

AND!!!

I just tightened the screws again by letting them in on my plan to give Phenomama's daughter 50 shares and putting them in her mother's grouch bag AND recommending those on ESMB with friends and family still in to do the same...

Quite seriously (though you needn't restrain your laughter) think about it. If you LOAN me $500 you will get $550 back within in one year

AND!!!

You will have 50 shares in your friends name collecting dividends. Within two years you'll be able to tell them there's $15,000 in cash and stock sitting around waiting for you to stop by the house for dinner and a pleasant evening's conversation.

But the web monitor's senior is pulling out Ron's writings on SP's telling them "Remember! SP's love practical jokes! This obvious pie-in-the-sky scam! There's no big payday. He's just a DB living on the street!!!"

Are they going to crap in their pants when they see me on CBS's "Sixty Minutes" in early December?

Want to see me tighten the screws a little bit harder?

Stay tuned.

 

[strativarius]

I'm sure your post was interesting phenom. Unfortunately, nobody saw it. :(

 

[Clay Pigeon]

. . .

Okay, just for fun (and in the remotest of possibilities that you will recognize and use this strategy):

Let's pretend someone came to me and pitched a venture like this. You for example. Well, founding and launching companies is my profession, so I might be able to save you a few hours (or decades) of wasted time and dead ends, lol

Let's further pretend that you tell me you need to raise "X" dollars and asked for my professional advice.

Let's assume for this hypothetical, that I was willing to give a month of my time to develop a plan that MIGHT increase your odds of getting the dough and business model you are dreaming of. Let's say, I will waive the $100K fee for the month and do it pro-bono.

Well, I already know what I would advise you, so now you have saved $100K, lol:

If I were in your position, with your resources (or lack thereof) and knowledge of business (or lack thereof), this is what i would do:

1) Recognize that I don't have a fucking clue how to raise money.
2) Recognize that I don't have any realistic idea of how to run and manage a company, especially one with investors' capital on the line.
3) Realize that my lack of a home/office or any business track record and all of the transiency of my existence would make it nearly IMPOSSIBLE to raise capital and run a business---without some other help/resources.
4) I'd then try to figure out a CREATIVE way to bring in some resources and this would be my first avenue to try....

• Try to find someone who knows how to do CROWDFUNDING and appeal to them to do it pro bono.
• Try to find someone who has a home or an office who is willing to lend a hand with banking, an address to deliver to, ship from, a phone, computer, etc.
• Give it your best shot to find both of the above.
• But, since the above is not very likely to happen (since it will require someone to spend time/money to help you) start working on "Plan B" right away at the same time

PLAN B: Find a documentary filmmaker or a wannabe documentary filmmaker or a student filmmaker and pitch them the idea of doing a documentary called "CINDERELLA STORY". They will follow several dreamy eyed idealists, would be entrepreneurs and future Facebook founders in their quest to make a billion dollars (or whatever their dream is). You, sir Clay Pigeon, would be in that documentary right now, they would begin videoing you and/or giving you video cam (or good Mobile device) to track your exploits. You would represent the spectrum of the entrepreneurial scale that is starry-eyed utopian-belief. Not a bad thing, just not a very practical thing for making money, right?

They (the student documentary producers) would front you some dough and "sponsor" you and your project. They could easily set up your CROWDFUNDING account and handle the particulars of it for u (e.g. get someone in business classes to do your business plan, get someone studying marketing to give you kill-ass cool marketing materials, logos, powerpoint, et al)

Then you would have backing by an industrious GROUP of enthusiastic people who have a motivation OTHER THAN betting that you will make a lot of money.

They would do it as brilliant and compelling "content" for their documentary project.

And it would be incredibly colorful material for them, whether you succeeded at astral levels or crashed and burned from unrealistic ideas. See what I mean?

Perhaps then you could do what you are trying to do and get the "backing" (not just a few guys handing you a hundred bucks each, which will surely make you fail due to undercapitalization). Get it?

Okay, that'll be $100,000. Oops, forgot, it's pro bono.

But that advice is worth a lot more than $100K if your commercial venture succeeds even at the most modest of levels.

This is entrepreneurial ju-jitsu, dude. You use your weaknesses and leverage them into strengths. It's judo where you use the foes power and size against him. You have every conceivable weakness for a new venture, so don't fight it. Make it work FOR you.

I would say that there is a 99.999999999% chance that you will NOT follow this advice.

And even if you do, there's a 98% chance that your business will fail unless the team behind you fills in all the missing reality and functions that you will never bring to the venture.

This is how reality works.

If you find some really talented folks to throw down with you, maybe your idea goes viral and its a sensation.

You are in a labyrinth right now. You think you need a hundred bucks here and there to move to the next segment of the labryrinth, towards the "exit". But there is no exit in the labyrinth you are in. Viewed from above, it's just a closed trap that gives you the sensation that you can navigate it by yourself. You can't.

You need a plan that takes you OUT OF that labyrinth and OUT OF that paradigm and OUT OF that mythological view of how business works. You need a super creative idea to bring about an alchemical event.

That's what i would do if i were you. Find sponsors who want to make a documentary. Even if that doesn't work, you will then be hooked into the same network that can get you up and running with a crowdfunding site and partner(s).

Many would-be entrepreneurs have asked my advice "how to succeed". I always tell them one thing. I'll give you free advice but only if you follow it. Otherwise, I won't.

99.99 % of the time they don't follow it very early on and I stop helping them quite soon, even during the first conversation, lol.

But they later will tell people "the market is bad right now" or some other absurdity to explain why their brilliant idea failed.

I can tell stories all day long about this, but hey, "free service free fall!" LOL LOL

I will help someone who really deserves help.

I hope Clay Pigeon goes viral. That'd be sooooo cool.

I did my part. Not a $100 check---a $100,000 plan.

The consulting was free, keep it so. LOL




ps: Just in case by some intergalactic miracle you try to follow the advice, DO NOT ASK OR EXPECT anything from any documentary filmmakers. You are content. You are not the film's producer or a partner. Give it all away because that is the only slightest hope you have to attract people to your koolaid. (i.e. don't go all "Hollywood" and think you are making a movie, you ain't. Consider yourself blessed and lucky beyond imagination if someone actually "bites" and catches fire on doing an extended documentary like this.

p.s. You are hereby awarded ten shares of D Sea Enterprises.

And though I rarely offer or accept bets...

Would you accept a gentleman's wager?

I would wager ten American silver dollars of the Morgan and Peace varieties you will receive $100,000 (current American) dollars from your honorarium NLT 21 October Anno Domini 2028.

Is this acceptable to you sir?

 

[Type4_PTS]

As I said, I don't need the money of anyone on ESMB.

My primary demographic is homeless and I can raise $50,000 from them easily.

Maybe so, but with the use of crowdfunding you don't have to take money from homeless people.

And if your business is as successful as you anticipate you can still help those homeless people however you see fit.

 

[Clay Pigeon]

Maybe so, but with the use of crowdfunding you don't have to take money from homeless people.

And if your business is as successful as you anticipate you can still help those homeless people however you see fit.

I'm not taking any money from homeless people.

They will loan me $100 which will be repaid within one year with ten percent interest.

And they will also receive ten shares of D Sea Enterprises.

Moreover, after one week they will have the option of returning the promissory note for the shares and getting $150 back.

These are my HOMIES Pitsy

These are NOT my pigeons

 

[Type4_PTS]

I'm not taking any money from homeless people.

It they're loaning you money than yes, you ARE taking money from them.

Anyways, that's your business. I just made a suggestion.

Anyways, good luck with your endeavor.

 

[Clay Pigeon]

It they're loaning you money than yes, you ARE taking money from them.

Anyways, that's your business. I just made a suggestion.

Anyways, good luck with your endeavor.

It's a matter of semantics Pitsy

In as much as after one week any of them can turn their $100 into $150 it might be thought egregious to characterize my deed as "taking from"

Another shot on goal deflected...

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

p.s. You are hereby awarded ten shares of D Sea Enterprises.

And though I rarely offer or accept bets...

Would you accept a gentleman's wager?

I would wager ten American silver dollars of the Morgan and Peace varieties you will receive $100,000 (current American) dollars from your honorarium NLT 21 October Anno Domini 2028.

Is this acceptable to you sir?

I actively admire, acknowledge, accept & anxiously await the awesomely affluent award! Naturally I do this in compliance with standard application of Church of Hoaxology's "SENIOR POLICY" and "STANDING ORDER #1" and "SO#1 LINE" (see LINK), which states:

"ALL CHECKS SENT TO ME SHALL BE RECEIVED & DEPOSITED BY ME"
-L. Don Hubbard - Founder - Church of Hoaxology
Don is the disagreeing, disaffected & disconnected twin brother of L. Ron Hubbard ​

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

THANK YOU HOAXIE!!!

Good plan; some of it's facets are in my business plan as proffered others match similar points of my own and then much of my business is very, very different because D Sea enterprises is not a new company it was founded by C. Taylor Baisley on July 1, 1957 and I have been CEO ever since running it prosperously on a Confucian business plan as practiced by such figures as Socrates, Jesus of Nazareth and Jacob Boehm.

Interesting.

If you have been "running it prosperously" since 1957, why do you need to raise 100 dollars from someone on ESMB?

In 61 years of operation that's only earnings of 14 cents per month ($1.61 per annum). Hmmmmmmm.....

Correct me if if I am mistaken, but wouldn't a prosperous venture earn at least 2 dollars per year?

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

As I said, I don't need the money of anyone on ESMB.
My primary demographic is homeless and I can raise $50,000 from them easily.

Outstanding!

You, like Dr. Hubbard, are a pioneering visionary blazing a path were no man has walked before.

Dr. Hubbard was the first to safely pass through the WALL OF FIRE.

You, sir, are the first to safely pass though the WALL OF POVERTY, by easily raising $50,000 from impoverished people who don't have enough money to eat and live.

I hope and trust that you will reveal the miracle of how to easily raise money from the destitute.

 

[Clay Pigeon]

Interesting.

If you have been "running it prosperously" since 1957, why do you need to raise 100 dollars from someone on ESMB?

In 61 years of operation that's only earnings of 14 cents per month ($1.61 per annum). Hmmmmmmm.....

Correct if if I am mistaken, but wouldn't a prosperous venture earn at least 2 dollars per year?

You do not yet grasp the basic Confucian business model.

I personally have flourished and prospered far beyond my wildest dreams. My sixtynine years are fantastically rich in life experience and friendships.

And...

D Sea Enterprises has generated hundreds of millions of dollars of economic activity (and thus tax revenue)

You are still drinking that CoS koolaid thinking I must be an SP PTS DB downstat worthless piece of shit because I o not have any $$$$$$MONEYMONEYMONEY!!!!!$$$$$.

I, on the other hand never did drink the koolaid.

(reference: "Leaders Eat Last" by Simon Synek)

Jee-yay-ziss HH...

Buy you a book. Send you to school. What good does it do?

 

[Bill]

Interesting.

If you have been "running it prosperously" since 1957, why do you need to raise 100 dollars from someone on ESMB?

In 61 years of operation that's only earnings of 14 cents per month ($1.61 per annum). Hmmmmmmm.....

Correct if if I am mistaken, but wouldn't a prosperous venture earn at least 2 dollars per year?

HH, You obviously have a "misunderstood". In the WOG world, "prosperous" means having lots of money. In the Scientology world "prosperous" means completely broke but "rich in theta".

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

You do not yet grasp the basic Confucian business model.

I personally have flourished and prospered far beyond my wildest dreams. My sixtynine years are fantastically rich in life experience and friendships.

And...

D Sea Enterprises has generated hundreds of millions of dollars of economic activity (and thus tax revenue)

You are still drinking that CoS koolaid thinking I must be an SP PTS DB downstat worthless piece of shit because I o not have any $$$$$$MONEYMONEYMONEY!!!!!$$$$$.

I, on the other hand never did drink the koolaid.

(reference: "Leaders Eat Last" by Simon Synek)

Jee-yay-ziss HH...

Buy you a book. Send you to school. What good does it do?

Why is it that when Scientologists and Social Justice Warriors on ESMB miserably fail to convince another about their wacky misconceptions, they immediately default to the misdirection of posting innumerable books/videos/articles by someone else? Those links that they scoldingly hand out as "homework assignments" are somehow expected to magically convince the bad cynics and debunkers, right? lol

Hey, Scientologist, I am afraid that I have to give you a "flunk" on Ron's the "REPORTERS' TRs", wherein you are supposed to misdirect the conversation when someone asks a question you can't answer. But, I am still thinking about the question you didn't answer, so you apparently are not very good at misdirection, LOL.

NOTE: I am familiar with the Confucian Business Model. You should re-familiarize yourself with Dr. Hubbard's ethics conditions and the "Confusion Business Model", lol.

 

[Clay Pigeon]

HH, You obviously have a "misunderstood". In the WOG world, "prosperous" means having lots of money. In the Scientology world "prosperous" means completely broke but "rich in theta".

I have dual citizenship in the material universe and the transcendent judeochristian sphere.

The word theta is not usually spoken or written within the context of the semantics of your post but it is grasped when spoken or heard.

I always enjoy hearing from you Bill and will be delighted if you ever actually speak or write to me.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

HH, You obviously have a "misunderstood". In the WOG world, "prosperous" means having lots of money. In the Scientology world "prosperous" means completely broke but "rich in theta".

LOL LOL LOL

L. Ron Hubbard states that a man is as rich as he has friends.

TRANSLATION: A man is as rich as he has rich friends--who give him all their money in order to buy magical miraculous powers that will make them millionaires (like they were before they met and "flowed power" to a cult conman wearing a naval costume).

 

[Type4_PTS]

I always enjoy hearing from you Bill and will be delighted if you ever actually speak or write to me.

He just wrote to you. Twenty minutes ago.

 

[Bill]

I have dual citizenship in the material universe and the transcendent judeochristian sphere.

The word theta is not usually spoken or written within the context of the semantics of your post but it is grasped when spoken or heard.

I always enjoy hearing from you Bill and will be delighted if you ever actually speak or write to me.

In this case, I was talking to HH, not you. While I often talk to you, I don't appear to have found the correct wavelength to reach your ... plain of existence. I'll keep trying. "Can you hear me now?"

 

[Clay Pigeon]

Why is it that when Scientologists and Social Justice Warriors on ESMB miserably fail to convince another about their wacky misconceptions, they immediately default to the misdirection of posting videos/articles by someone else? Those links that they scolding hand out as "homework assignments" are somehow expectedly to magically convince the bad cynics and debunkers, right?

Hey, Scientologist, I am afraid that I have to give you a "flunk" on Ron's the "REPORTERS' TRs", wherein you are supposed to misdirect the conversation when someone asks a question you can't answer. But, I am still thinking about the question you didn't answer, so you apparently are not very good at misdirection, LOL.

NOTE: I am familiar with the Confucian Business Model. You should re-familiarize yourself with Dr. Hubbard's ethics conditions and the "Confusion Business Model".

HH, I would not deny being a scientologist but I stake no claim to it.


And...


If you would read my posts more carefully you would see I am pranking OSA and CoS all to HELL and gone with this project

CoS SUXXX!!!

fuck 'em

OSA SUXXX!!!

fuck 'em where they live, fuck 'em where they breathe, fuck they mommas' mommas and if they have any trouble picking up on the gist of what I got to say TELL THEM TO BEND OVER AND I'LL SEE IF AH CAIN'T DRIVE THE POINT HOME!!!





THOSE MUTHUHFUKKAKS ARE FUKKIN' GUILTY OF THE WRONGFUL DEATH OF MY FIRSTBORN SON AND THIS LITTLE OLE CO'NTRY BOY IS GITTIN' JIST ABOUT SICK AND TIRED OF GITTIN' SICK AND TIRED





Ah'm a pool shootin' boy name of Willie McCoy but back home they call me Slim
Ah'm lookin' for the King of 42d Street, drive a flash back cadillac
Said he took all my money and it may sound funny
But I come to git my money back

 

[Clay Pigeon]

In this case, I was talking to HH, not you. While I often talk to you, I don't appear to have found the correct wavelength to reach your ... plain of existence. I'll keep trying. "Can you hear me now?"

I can hear you though you remain somewhat garbled

perhaps if you tried being Garbo'd or Gabled you could do better

but don't go getting gerbil'd...

Now...

If you get Bogey'd you might even be a partner some day