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TheSneakster
Guest
Mimsey, Sylvia posted what I should have written. I'm sure you meant well, so I'm sorry for responding too harshly.
Mimsey, Sylvia posted what I should have written. I'm sure you meant well, so I'm sorry for responding too harshly.
Sindy
Crusader
Mimsey, Synthia [STRIKE]Sylvia [/STRIKE]posted what I should have written. I'm sure you meant well, so I'm sorry for responding too harshly.
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Mimsey Borogrove
Crusader
OMG!!!!!!!
Mimsey
Mimsey
Div6
Crusader
If she died in California, a copy of her death certificate can be obtained here:
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/Pages/default.aspx
if anyone is so inclined.
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/Pages/default.aspx
if anyone is so inclined.
freethinker
Sponsor
Yeah, he appologized.
Terril park
Sponsor
Vittorio
Patron Meritorious
This thread is about Annie.
I would appreciate Terril actually saying something in regards to Annie, a much loved SO member and trusted by LRH with practically everything who has died prematurely.
I also understand why there is distrust over her death. So much in Scientology is PR, spin, TR's, case, SP's that it's hard to discern the truth.
I have no reason to believe that Annie is still alive.
I would appreciate Terril actually saying something in regards to Annie, a much loved SO member and trusted by LRH with practically everything who has died prematurely.
I also understand why there is distrust over her death. So much in Scientology is PR, spin, TR's, case, SP's that it's hard to discern the truth.
I have no reason to believe that Annie is still alive.
Panda Termint
Cabal Of One
Another couple of pages and it'll probably be all about Arnie!
Sautez
Patron with Honors
These are a few links and quotes re: Ron the misogynist. It is long and I hope all this c and p translates well in this post. The Penthouse link farther down is a super juicy one on the subject.
From http://www.ronthenut.org/
The biography of L. Ron Hubbard shows a man who was incapable of telling the truth: a pathological liar who hated and despise humanity; a sociopath caught between the conflicting desires to earn the admiration of humanity, and his desire to inflict great pain and misery upon those who ignored him and refused him his self-perceived due measure of honor and reverie (which was and is 99.999% of his fellow human beings). As such, Mister Hubbard was constantly trying to purchase glory and recognition when he had the funds to make the attempt, or stole that recognition by lying and deceiving when money wasn't enough. Mister Hubbard was driven by greed and megalomania.
He was a devout racist who wrote in praise of South African Apartheid; he was a crazed misogynist who insisted women were inferior intellectually--- later in life his venereal disease (caught from a whore while on leave from the Navy) instilled within him a fear and dread of womankind that expressed itself in insanity and impotency.
The life of Hubbard was that of one long series of pathetic failures, punctuated with a few greed-driven successes once he developed what he called "The religion angle" for the worthless "self-help" sham he fabricated called "Dianetics® / Scientology®."
Hubbard was a petty thief; a wife beater; and sociopath; a drug-addicted, rum besotted schizophrenic who once begged the United States government for psychiatric help but was ignored, to the detriment of his many victims. One FBI agent wrote of Hubbard, "appears mental," which is a short and accurate summation of Mr. Hubbard.
This web site is dedicated with compassion, kindness, and sympathy to all Scientologists throughout the world--- may the truth within these pages set you on the true path to freedom. -- David M. Rice
________----- _________---
Ron the wife-beater:
http://www.ronthenut.org/northrup.htm
' He strangled her so hard that her hearing in one ear became permanently impaired. Hubbard also used the family car to deliberately run into Sara. Hubbard also kidnapped Sara's child and used the threat of violence toward that child against Sara.'
________------________
Ron the bigamist:
http://www.ronthenut.org/bigamy.htm
'She did not know Hubbard was married when she married him.'
' Ms. Northrupt later was very sorry she married Hubbard, as he constantly tortured and beat her.'
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http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
'Ron Jr. also recalls a hard-drinking, drug-abusing father who would mistreat his mother and other women, but who, when, under the influence, would delight in telling his son all of his exploits.'
And a little farther down the page:
' His father's autocratic and arbitrary control of Scientology often led to violence, and the young Hubbard began to be disturbed by his own participation. '
_______------______
More from Hubbard Jr:
' One of the important things was to destroy the evidence if you failed at this immaculate conception. That's how my father became obsessed with abortions. I have a memory of this that goes back to when I was six years old. It is certainly a problem for my father and for Scientology that I rememoer this. It was around 1939, 1940, that I watched my father doing something to my mother. She was lying on the bed and he was sitting on her, facing her feet. He had a coat hanger in his hand. There was blood all over the place. I remember my father shouting at me. "Go back to bed!" A little while later a doctor came and took her off to the hospital. She didn't talk about it for quite a number of years. Neither did my father.'
Penthouse interviewer: 'He was trying to perform an abortion?'
Hubbard Jr: 'According to him and my mother, he tried to do it with me. I was born at six and a half months and weighed two pounds, two ounces. I mean, I wasn't born: this is what came out as a result of their attempt to abort me. It happened during a night of partying --he got involved in trying to do a black-magic number. Also, I've got to complete this by saying that he thought of himself as the Beast 666 incarnate.'
___________-----__________
Relevant to this thread (RIP sweet, sweet unsung woman
) and farther down the page is comments on Cancer and what LRH thought caused it.
'the problem is a sexual thing. Therefore the cancer is rooted in a sexual problem'
(What a bunch of justifiers for sec-checking and using private sexual info for later extortion)
________----------__________
With a little more digging I am positive we would find quite a bit more on Ron as misogynist. (Unlike Marty's 'I am positive' statement about the dead and his allusions to psychic revelation.) I think it is disgusting for an older man as "King' to have his nubile young minions literally at his feet cleaning his old fat body and dressing him. I understand the deluded[SIZE=+1]. I mourn the dead and dying. I am greatly saddened by the loss of life and of the few last witnesses to what really happened near the time of Lrh's death and from all who were very close to him.
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From http://www.ronthenut.org/
The biography of L. Ron Hubbard shows a man who was incapable of telling the truth: a pathological liar who hated and despise humanity; a sociopath caught between the conflicting desires to earn the admiration of humanity, and his desire to inflict great pain and misery upon those who ignored him and refused him his self-perceived due measure of honor and reverie (which was and is 99.999% of his fellow human beings). As such, Mister Hubbard was constantly trying to purchase glory and recognition when he had the funds to make the attempt, or stole that recognition by lying and deceiving when money wasn't enough. Mister Hubbard was driven by greed and megalomania.
He was a devout racist who wrote in praise of South African Apartheid; he was a crazed misogynist who insisted women were inferior intellectually--- later in life his venereal disease (caught from a whore while on leave from the Navy) instilled within him a fear and dread of womankind that expressed itself in insanity and impotency.
The life of Hubbard was that of one long series of pathetic failures, punctuated with a few greed-driven successes once he developed what he called "The religion angle" for the worthless "self-help" sham he fabricated called "Dianetics® / Scientology®."
Hubbard was a petty thief; a wife beater; and sociopath; a drug-addicted, rum besotted schizophrenic who once begged the United States government for psychiatric help but was ignored, to the detriment of his many victims. One FBI agent wrote of Hubbard, "appears mental," which is a short and accurate summation of Mr. Hubbard.
This web site is dedicated with compassion, kindness, and sympathy to all Scientologists throughout the world--- may the truth within these pages set you on the true path to freedom. -- David M. Rice
________----- _________---
Ron the wife-beater:
http://www.ronthenut.org/northrup.htm
' He strangled her so hard that her hearing in one ear became permanently impaired. Hubbard also used the family car to deliberately run into Sara. Hubbard also kidnapped Sara's child and used the threat of violence toward that child against Sara.'
________------________
Ron the bigamist:
http://www.ronthenut.org/bigamy.htm
'She did not know Hubbard was married when she married him.'
' Ms. Northrupt later was very sorry she married Hubbard, as he constantly tortured and beat her.'
___________----------_____________
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
'Ron Jr. also recalls a hard-drinking, drug-abusing father who would mistreat his mother and other women, but who, when, under the influence, would delight in telling his son all of his exploits.'
And a little farther down the page:
' His father's autocratic and arbitrary control of Scientology often led to violence, and the young Hubbard began to be disturbed by his own participation. '
_______------______
More from Hubbard Jr:
' One of the important things was to destroy the evidence if you failed at this immaculate conception. That's how my father became obsessed with abortions. I have a memory of this that goes back to when I was six years old. It is certainly a problem for my father and for Scientology that I rememoer this. It was around 1939, 1940, that I watched my father doing something to my mother. She was lying on the bed and he was sitting on her, facing her feet. He had a coat hanger in his hand. There was blood all over the place. I remember my father shouting at me. "Go back to bed!" A little while later a doctor came and took her off to the hospital. She didn't talk about it for quite a number of years. Neither did my father.'
Penthouse interviewer: 'He was trying to perform an abortion?'
Hubbard Jr: 'According to him and my mother, he tried to do it with me. I was born at six and a half months and weighed two pounds, two ounces. I mean, I wasn't born: this is what came out as a result of their attempt to abort me. It happened during a night of partying --he got involved in trying to do a black-magic number. Also, I've got to complete this by saying that he thought of himself as the Beast 666 incarnate.'
___________-----__________
Relevant to this thread (RIP sweet, sweet unsung woman
) and farther down the page is comments on Cancer and what LRH thought caused it.'the problem is a sexual thing. Therefore the cancer is rooted in a sexual problem'
(What a bunch of justifiers for sec-checking and using private sexual info for later extortion)
________----------__________
With a little more digging I am positive we would find quite a bit more on Ron as misogynist. (Unlike Marty's 'I am positive' statement about the dead and his allusions to psychic revelation.) I think it is disgusting for an older man as "King' to have his nubile young minions literally at his feet cleaning his old fat body and dressing him. I understand the deluded[SIZE=+1]. I mourn the dead and dying. I am greatly saddened by the loss of life and of the few last witnesses to what really happened near the time of Lrh's death and from all who were very close to him.
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Terril park
Sponsor
I was responding to someone insulting me, and using his post to
inject a note of humour.
Or am I supposed to turn the other cheek and stand on the naughty
step in the freezone corner and keep my mouth shut?
You'd be better off addressing the person who started slinging insults.
Auditor's Toad
Clear as Mud
Poor little TP, he worked hard to derail a thread not going the way he thought it ought to and got called on it...so now he is the poor put upon victim.
How 'bout a round of sympathy for the chap.
I'll lead off by playing a mornful tune on the worlds smallest violin.
When this is over maybe it'll get back to Annie ( if TP will allow it ! ).
Terril park
Sponsor
This thread like all long threads has wandered around. I have
no, problem with whatever way the thread goes, and for you to
say I have is your own delusion.
However you derailed the thread by insulting me, which is also a violation of the rules of conduct here.
And you accuse me of derailing!
" Why do you notice the sliver in your friend's eye, but overlook the timber in your own? Matthew 7-3
Smilla
Ordinary Human
Claire Swazey
Spokeshole, fence sitter
I see absolutely nothing in this thread or in any other thread anywhere, any place, anytime that ever suggests that Terril is against human rights.
Good heavens.
Good heavens.
Smilla
Ordinary Human
Auditor's Toad
Clear as Mud
Might have been what went clank.
Some feel this thing called the FZ is pretty much the Fart Zone.
Not all feel like bowing to the FZ as anything but more of scientology ( which some feel has fostered a destructive cult as its " fruit ")
But, hey some people still want that - LOL !
Auditor's Toad
Clear as Mud
Mimsey Borogrove
Crusader
I think the two of you should be tossed in a WWF ring and R-U-M-B-L-E!!!!!! Maybe Arnie wants to be the ump... Mimsey
Auditor's Toad
Clear as Mud
From the online posting style of the other person, I've found that type to be real meek and back peddling IRL.
Just my experience with that type.
Just my experience with that type.
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