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ANON ORANGE ARRESTED AT GOLD BASE

alex

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That is because the first video contains evidence crucial to our case. You will not be seeing it before AO's court date.

But the things I mentioned were documented on wwp. The gold security tactic of going near cars then backing up in a big hurry (video from orange), a classic reach and withdraw process.

The swearing mentioned by other protesters...

The private property...notice how quick barb retreats when told...she knows where the property lines are. And her aikido training served her well in not fighting back....
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The swearing was a result of AO being attacked. We were not provoking them by swearing. And no, ALEX, I did not "know where the property lines are." Nor did I know who the property belongs to. And I never took aikido, so stop lying. I swear to god, you are such a vicious POS in a mild wrapper. You have accused me of "knowing" about the property in other forii as well. I have not been to the county land use office to look at maps. I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY! Is that clear? Quit putting your spin on the incident. You weren't there and your assessment is not accurate. WTF is Aikido? I took KENDO you stupid cultie. KENDO. And I did not use it, not having my shinai handy.



I have already explained this. AO's lawyer has advised him to keep the video showing initial contact under wraps. Do you think your curiosity is more important than legal advice? You are not going to see it until it is shown in court. Deal with it.

Hi Barb. All I can say is that I like you better when you call me a squeeky chew toy, than when you call me a piece of shit. And sorry about the aikido, honest mistake.

alex (who will wait patiently now that proper chastisement has been administered, the video will surely be seen sometime next year...)
 

Axiom142

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Hi Barb. All I can say is that I like you better when you call me a squeeky chew toy, than when you call me a piece of shit. And sorry about the aikido, honest mistake.

alex (who will wait patiently now that proper chastisement has been administered, the video will surely be seen sometime next year...)

So what does humble pie taste like Alex?

Or are you only pretending to chew and then spit it out when nobody is looking? :coolwink:

And, surely 'POS' stands for Pedantic Old Sod? Not so insulting really? :unsure:

Axiom142
 
If there's nothing incriminating on AO's camera why were the security guards fighting to get it away from Barb? They knew what was on that
 

Björkist

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Videos which, for instance, involve police abuse and also find their way onto the 'net don't deter the evildoers from receiving justice.

The first video likely shows AO doing something incriminating which justified his handling (which is why there have been instructions from a paid lawyer not to put it on the internet).

Once it's out there, it's out there.

Let's just show a member of Anonymous having been roughed up...but let's not show what led up to it.
 

Axiom142

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Videos which, for instance, involve police abuse and also find their way onto the 'net don't deter the evildoers from receiving justice.

The first video likely shows AO doing something which justified his handling (which is why there have been instructions from a paid lawyer not to put it on the internet).

Once it's out there, it's out there.

Björkist, do you have additional information to support your assertion?

Or are you just speaking from a prejudiced viewpoint?

In any case I cannot see how having 3 men sitting on a man, forcing his face into the dirt can be justified. And I notice that you didn’t mention the thuggery, excuse me, ‘handling’ meted out to Barbz when she attempted to retrieve a camera containing actual evidence. The assault on her was clearly shown on video. Or do you claim that she deserved this as well?

Axiom142
 

Zinjifar

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Apparently both Bjorkist and Alex have been doing some 'remote viewing'; however, on some bizarro parallel Time Track.

Zinj
 

Björkist

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Björkist, do you have additional information to support your assertion?

Or are you just speaking from a prejudiced viewpoint?

In any case I cannot see how having 3 men sitting on a man, forcing his face into the dirt can be justified. And I notice that you didn’t mention the thuggery, excuse me, ‘handling’ meted out to Barbz when she attempted to retrieve a camera containing actual evidence. The assault on her was clearly shown on video. Or do you claim that she deserved this as well?

Axiom142

No assertion. Just speculation and opinion based on the evidence available.

Same sorta theory as some Scientology critics who never knew Hubbard acting like they personally inspected his ass and found Vistaril.

Apparently both Bjorkist and Alex have been doing some 'remote viewing'; however, on some bizarro parallel Time Track.

Zinj

It's very similar to your "remote viewing" and time travelling into the annals of all things Scientology related.

How's that Flux Capacitor treating you, Zinj?
 

Zinjifar

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No assertion. Just speculation and opinion based on the evidence available.

Same sorta theory as some Scientology critics who never knew Hubbard acting like they personally inspected Hubbard's ass and found Vistaril.

The County Coroner personally inspected Ron's ass and found Vistaril. Then Scientology fed Ron's ass to the fishes, to preclude further inspections.

Zinj
 

Axiom142

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No assertion. Just speculation and opinion based on the evidence available.

Same sorta theory as some Scientology critics who never knew Hubbard acting like they personally inspected his ass and found Vistaril.



It's very similar to your "remote viewing" and time travelling into the annals of all things Scientology related.

How's that Flux Capacitor treating you, Zinj?

OK, then speculation and opinion. I stand corrected.

But you didn't answer my question about Barbz getting assaulted. Or shall I take that as an admission that you know it was wrong and therefore prefer not to talk about it?

Or do you deny that it happened at all?

And BTW, the presence of Vistaril in Hubbard's blood was confirmed by the coroner's report and then admitted by a CoS spokesperson. Just because someone has never met a particular person, it doesn't mean that they cannot criticise that person.

Axiom142
 
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Anon678_

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Videos which, for instance, involve police abuse and also find their way onto the 'net don't deter the evildoers from receiving justice.

The first video likely shows AO doing something incriminating which justified his handling (which is why there have been instructions from a paid lawyer not to put it on the internet).

Once it's out there, it's out there.

Let's just show a member of Anonymous having been roughed up...but let's not show what led up to it.

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Lohan2008

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Hugs for AO

1. hugs for AO , hope you wheren't hurt. :grouphug:
2. OK, so it was stoopid to park near "Gold base"
3. dosnt excuse the EXCESSIVE force to 'detain' you.

to the trolls, AO isnt going to show initial video if its part of an on going federal police investigation.

This assault has convinced HUGE numbers of people to take interest in joining "Anonymous" to fight the criminal activities of Co$.

my hope is that the goons have security liscences, so that AO layers can connect them to ACTING on Scientology's behalf.

:drama:
 

Zinjifar

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They certainly do *not* have 'security licenses', which, however, has nothing to do with them being connected to and acting on behalf of their employer, the 'Church' of Scientology.

Zinj
 

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From OCMB:http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?p=347733#347733

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A person associated with Scientology Gold Base Security -- and it could be a disaffected PI or a Sea Org member who blew and I won't say -- told me the following. I cannot verify this allegation, but wish to report on it:

Scientology Gold Base Security allegedly offered a Hemet Sheriff's Department Deputy $5,000 if he conducted a day of training in arrest and other law enforcement techniques -- such as arrestee compliance techniques -- in his backyard. This training was to be video recorded so that Gold Base Security Personnel could drill on how to legally effect citizen's arrests on, or around, Gold Base in Hemet.

The Sheriff's Deputy declined the offer. I hope he reported the offer to his superiors if this in fact happened. It is to the credit of the Hemet Sheriff's Department that they helped Marc Headley to escape from Gold Base by ordering the "Recovery Team" that had run Marc off the road to leave Marc alone or face arrest. Still, there appears to be one or two Hemet Sheriff's Deputies who seem to be tooclose to Scientology's Gold Base. The Deputy who turned down the alleged $5,000 offer does not appear to be one of the two deputies that Scientology's critics are focusing our attention on.

What my source alleged to me was that Gold Base needed a "Citizen's Arrest and Detention Tech" because they were setting up various schemes to entrap and place Gold Base protesters under citizen's arrest. However, Danny and his Crew at Gold lacked the necessary training in making legal citizen's arrests. Rather, Danny and his fellow thugs are used to essentially overpowering, threatening, or basically kidnapping Sea Org members who attempt to escape from Gold Base. A citizen's arrest is quite another matter altogether, for if it is done improperly a civil lawsuit and criminal charges for false imprisonment and/or assault can follow. Thus, Gold Base needed to be clear on what was legal in Hemet. Scientology's need to "drill" endlessly on techniques apparently created the need for an informal training video.

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I'mglib replied:
Interesting, Swifty.
I forget who it was, but I called somebody in the Sheriffs office to find out about protesting at Gold a while back, and he brought the idea of a citizen's arrest up out of the blue. I was calling to ask about the whether the Keith Henson judgement had anything to do with anyone else, and he said no. He said it's perfectly ok for anyone except Keith Henson to protest, HOWEVER, if they do a citizen's arrest that's another thing. I was like WTF, we're just talking about walking up and down the road carrying signs. He said something about the police not liking citizen's arrests, but if it happens they have to deal with it.
 

Lohan2008

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Gold base

They certainly do *not* have 'security licenses', which, however, has nothing to do with them being connected to and acting on behalf of their employer, the 'Church' of Scientology.

not being connected? can you explain that zinj??? :confused2:

so how where they able to "arrest" AnonOrange for tresspass?? they knew where the boundary line was and 'happened' to be there, to perform their civic duty??
 

Zinjifar

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They certainly do *not* have 'security licenses', which, however, has nothing to do with them being connected to and acting on behalf of their employer, the 'Church' of Scientology.

not being connected? can you explain that zinj??? :confused2:

so how where they able to "arrest" AnonOrange for tresspass?? they knew where the boundary line was and 'happened' to be there, to perform their civic duty??

I'm not sure I understand your question. There is no license involved in being a hired thug (un or underpaid or not) for a bat-shit-crazy UFO Cult.

The thugs in question made a 'citizens arrest'. They did so as employees for the 'Church' of Scientology. They and the 'Church' are liable for their actions.

An interesting question might be, 'do the snipers at 'Eagle' have a 'license to snipe'?'

Zinj
 

Lohan2008

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Hi zinj

the point i was talking about: if they have security liscences, you would able to prove in court that they where acting on Co$ behalf;
whereas
the 'Church' will now disconnect them and say that the goons were acting on they own
 

Zinjifar

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the point i was talking about: if they have security liscences, you would able to prove in court that they where acting on Co$ behalf;
whereas
the 'Church' will now disconnect them and say that the goons were acting on they own

No. They're at 'Int Base'; Gilman Hot Springs; Golden Era Studios. They're Sea Org members. The 'Church' won't disconnect from them or expel them; it might move them to a less visible 'post', or, *possibly* move them to a different post elsewhere to avoid them as witnesses, but, that seems unlikely. More likely is that the 'Church' sees their actions as a net *plus* so far, and will need them as 'witnesses' (as far as a Sea Org member can be considered a 'witness' while still in.)

Zinj
 
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