Anti-Scientologists Who Are "Under the Radar"

[Caroline]

In terms of Anti-Scientologists who are under the radar, I don't think anti-Scientology is totalitarian enough.

I think that people close to Tony Ortega, for instance, need to push down his version of "command intention" in order to let the ninnies beneath him know what they should think, who they should link to, what ideas should be discussed - even what friends they should allow to be known publicly.

But it is easy for under the radar anti-scientologists to express their personal opinions privately - as long as the people they express their opinions to swear never to tell anyone - which is usually the beginning of every back-channel Anti-Scientology phone call ever.

This probably happens in every human group and social network - including those in totalitarian countries.

I'm just saying that I've discovered that the phenomena of "under the radar" occurs in Anti-Scientology - just like it does in Scientology.

It was surprising to me.

For Veda, my writing about this was an attempt to create rumors of disloyalty among the ranks. Like a Sea Org member seeking out "external influences" causing PTSness.

But it's actually just human nature.

I think even Hannah Arendt described all of this as the 'banality of evil'.

Given the plain human moral cowardice I've witnessed in both Scientology and Anti-Scientology, the 'banality of evil' much more closely describes my experiences in and out of Scientology than "layers of an onion".

Thank you. I have heard of anonymous people being "under the radar," providing "intel," or gossip about the corporation, etc., but didn't realize that this was a grouping of interest beyond that.

 

[Bill]

OK - let me just clarify:

You speak with anti-Scientologists who are under the radar - just as I have described - but you assign their non-public criticisms of their anti-Scientology leaders as being 'too busy with life' to care about what Tony Ortega (or others) have to say?

Do they ever confess good things about Scientology to you - like how maybe Scientology isn't as evil as anti-Scientologists pretend it is?

Like they are dilettantes or that they prefer bowling or horse racing to straight Anti-Scientology?

Are you saying to me Bill, that anti-Scientology is not the trust and crusade that anti-scientology leaders and content providers say it is?

I don't know any of your people, the ones who neatly fit into your little boxes. Can't speak about them, can't "read their minds" like you can.

Most of the ex-Scientologists I interact with here and elsewhere do not fit in your little boxes. The ex's I know are not interested in your "epic battle" with "anti-Scientologists". (Poems will be written!)

If you told the "man-on-the-street" all about your "epic.battle" (petty squabble) he would laugh. It isn't anything. In the real world, where most of us live, your "epic battle" is not important.

You've imported your little, petty tiff into ESMB and tried to get us to join you in the drama.

After all your hard work ... still don't care. On a scale of 1 to 10? ZERO.

 

[Alanzo]

I don't know any of your people, the ones who neatly fit into your little boxes. Can't speak about them, can't "read their minds" like you can.

Most of the ex-Scientologists I interact with here and elsewhere do not fit in your little boxes. The ex's I know are not interested in your "epic battle" with "anti-Scientologists". (Poems will be written!)

If you told the "man-on-the-street" all about your "epic.battle" (petty squabble) he would laugh. It isn't anything. In the real world, where most of us live, your "epic battle" is not important.

You've imported your little, petty tiff into ESMB and tried to get us to join you in the drama.

After all your hard work ... still don't care. On a scale of 1 to 10? ZERO.

Bill goes to all this effort to write a post saying that he doesn't care.

Thanks for weighing in, Bill.

And for your continuing obsession with Alanzo.

 

[Bill]

Bill goes to all this effort to write a post saying that he doesn't care.

Thanks for weighing in, Bill.

And for your continuing obsession with Alanzo.

You only wish.

 

[JustSheila]

Am I lying about this just to make everyone believe that I have more friends than I do?

 

[Lurker5]

Perhaps A projects his own shit onto others. Perhaps he is unable, like most scinos, to self reflect and contemplate, and OWN his own failings. So he projects them onto others, where he can openly hate THEM - instead of himself.

Just saying, it's a possibility.