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Anti Scientology cultist?

Discussion in 'MartyWorld' started by Veda, Sep 18, 2016.

  1. George Layton

    George Layton Silver Meritorious Patron

    It can be pondered and debated in so many ways but it ALL is still a distraction from the abuses ongoing in scientology today and the exposure of those abuses.
  2. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    Yes. All kidding aside, I think the exact point I fell resolutely into the stupid classification was staying after seeing how they made people live in the basement of Big Blue with mattresses on the floor. There was nothing in my berthing that I needed so much that I couldn't have just walked straight out the door and hopped a bus or stuck out my thumb. LRH did that. Other people facilitated it but it should have been clear in that moment that at the heart of Scientology was LRH's deep desire to debase people. All things considered I'm not doing too badly but in a parallel dimension the me that left is living a completely different life.

    The bottom line is that regardless of how goofy LRH and his stuff was they were deceptive and abusive and took advantage of people. There are lots of people who due to age, handicap, circumstances, education or environment can be deceived at some point in their lives. The burden is on everyone else to be decent and not predate on them.

    Big Scientology fail.
  3. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    Love that movie!

    How about a version called The LRH Birthday Game where a Scientology Commanding Officer continually relives the chance to get his org's stats up in time to win.
  4. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    and it also proves no clears or OT's, no soul astronauts.
  5. Ogsonofgroo

    Ogsonofgroo Crusader

    To me there is something I call the 'ick' factor. In other words, if you're going to get your mind around things, there should be no 'ick' at all. That noicer calm zen-space, with no words... So opposite of anything Hubbard, just so far away from the heart of life... no feelings 'cause you are to0o tangled up in the bs. iya.

  6. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    In the early 1980s, my friend was staff at Big Blue, and was so broke, he'd tell me about trying to find trees that bare fruit, or anything, so he could eat. He told me about these carob trees that had big seed pods, but the seeds were really hard, and difficult to chew. And he told me of the cheapest seedy rooms to rent, and selecting one that he didn't see stabbings or other violence at. Finally, he came home, and left the cult forever.
  7. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    You raise the point of what it is like to try to get back on your feet in Los Angeles after leaving the Sea Org.

    In my opinion it is a noisy, dirty, congested, drab place and the people are stressed and inconsiderate. Yes, that is a lot of generalization but basically there are a lot of more promising places a person can try to re-establish their lives. The tendency is to appeal to other Scientologists for help or employment but they too tend to be stressed, often due to their own self inflicted obligations to Scientology.

    Los Angeles was being flooded with war refugees in the 70s and illegal aliens hit a new high in the 80s. They compete for low wage/low skill jobs that ex-SO may need with a weak resume and little resources and that market is completely saturated now.

    The hills above Hollywood had a lot of homeless encampments years ago and there were lots of dumpster divers. I can't imagine what its like now. The strain and competition on low/no income support systems and housing must be intense. To me Los Angeles equates to cockroaches and bedbugs. Its not enough to keep your own place and things clean, if your neighbor or the people that came before you weren't - you get the vermin.

    By the time people have been in the SO their savings are probably depleted and their connections to family and friends who can provide a support network could be minimal.

    I tried to restart in LA after getting out but having done that, my advice would be to immediately relocate and invest your time and energy somewhere nicer.

    Any ex-Sea Org members who found this advice helpful can send Commendations to my ethics folder via ESMB Director of Inspections and Reports. Much appreciated, thanks.
  8. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    This friend was not from L.A., but Northern California, and after returning home and leaving the cult, went to University, and went on to get a deep 6-figure income. The best thing he ever did was to turn his back on the cult. Getting $250,000 a year is a far cry from eating carob seeds to survive.
  9. an0n

    an0n Patron

    Recent development.. Miscavige now using acronym ASC to describe primary activities within Scientology..

    -Always Sending Cash
    -Always Sec Checked

    Has a as-isness ring to it
  10. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    I agree with you, but I think it's time to loose the meme ASC, ex scientologist, anti-scientology and even critic of scientology for us exmembers.

    If I were to label myself, it would be scientology whistleblower. A non ex-member would be a critic. So, I actually think it would better to communicate to the public if ex-members labeled themselves as whistleblowers and made it known and the media did the same and Tony O actually made that distinction as well.

    The term whistleblower did not come into the human language until 1970 per wiki. Hubbard never knew the term but he knew the term critic. Hubbard teachings tell us a critic is bad, an SP, so inmembers immediately close their eyes and ears. The Hubbard/COS does not have a handling for "whistleblower" as far as I know.
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2016
  11. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

  12. tetloj

    tetloj Silver Meritorious Patron

    This has the added bonus of being pronouncable as 'arse-COB'
  13. xenusdad

    xenusdad Patron with Honors

    I love Lily Allen!
  14. xenusdad

    xenusdad Patron with Honors

    Good thinking, Batman! :clap:
  15. pineapple

    pineapple Silver Meritorious Patron

    As in "cornholing." :wink2:
  16. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    Captain Bill? Is that you?
  17. pineapple

    pineapple Silver Meritorious Patron

    I was thinking along the lines of "that's what scn gives you." What's the connection to Captain Bill?
  18. tetloj

    tetloj Silver Meritorious Patron

    I expect it was the captain~navy connection :whistling: