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Anyone actually "see" Xenu in session?

Pascal

Silver Meritorious Patron
Started down that path, family saved me. That path leads no where.

I'm not in interested IN scientology, I'm interested its dismantling, and the exposure of its lies so it cannot be used to control another person again.

Scientology hurts people, and you know it, but can't accept it.

If I'm not a horny 17 year old, and I what I say is truth, then what?

You won't explode, but everything will change.

But so what?

It's better than living a lie.

So where are you on the Bridge?

If you haven't gone down that path how can you say without a doubt that it leads to nowhere?

You want to dismantle the Church? What about "independent" Scientologists outside the soulless CoS?

Scientology has never hurt me, quite the opposite. What right have you to generalize?

I wish you lots of sex and to chill out. We can have a mature discussion without name calling and getting emotional.
 

well_that_sucked

Patron with Honors
So where are you on the Bridge?

If you haven't gone down that path how can you say without a doubt that it leads to nowhere?

You want to dismantle the Church? What about "independent" Scientologists outside the soulless CoS?

Scientology has never hurt me, quite the opposite. What right have you to generalize?

I wish you lots of sex and to chill out. We can have a mature discussion without name calling and getting emotional.

You and scientology ots think you have, and can, communicate with the after life and ETs in one shot.

The amount harm to a person's identity it takes for them believe such a thing is truth, without proof, is unimaginable. Spare me.
 

Pascal

Silver Meritorious Patron
You and scientology ots think you have, and can, communicate with the after life and ETs in one shot.

The amount harm to a person's identity it takes for them believe such a thing is truth, without proof, is unimaginable. Spare me.

You do realize you are talking to yourself?

You have yet to answer a single question I have made to you in a multitude of posts.

Your family sure saved you, but from what? :confused2:
 

well_that_sucked

Patron with Honors
You do realize you are talking to yourself?

You have yet to answer a single question I have made to you in a multitude of posts.

Your family sure saved you, but from what? :confused2:

How do you expect people to believe that you and scientology's ots have the ability to communicate with aliens from the afterlife (bts) on demand?

There is no proof, its completely unverifiable.

What must happen to an individual in order for them to accept such drivel as fact and be willing to pay many thousands of dollars for it?

My family saved me from becoming you.
 

RolandRB

Rest in Peace
I do realize it's a big Universe, and even if Xenu was real (not
that I'm saying that he is or was) then it is likely someone has seen him.

Yes, its not as iif many folks out there would have been buddies with Xenu.
Hanging out in his Fortress Of Evil.

But its still likely that if he was real (not saying that he was or wasn't)
someone must have seen him either in person, or in a picture, or on some
type of communication screen. Something of some sort.

So I'm just asking, has anyone seen Xenu or even heard of
anyone seeing Xenu in session?

And what did he look like?
What was he wearing?
What kind of environment or architecture was nearby?


Nobody "sees Xenu" in session. NOt unless they are told they *should* do or that only very powerful OT types are capable of seeing Xenu in session.
 

Neo

Silver Meritorious Patron
Thanks NEO...much appreciated!


Hi Angel,

Neo was right........this post was not about the tech at all.

It is more about keeping the peace.

Well that Sucked is a new poster here, and has not had history with PMD. I have seen this kind of bickering with PMD ad nauseum. Sometimes it is about the tech and sometimes it is about anything that he can come up with the derail a thread.

Arguing with a troll leads nowhere. But it will certainly derail any and all threads that it occurs in,.

No worries, duddins :)

However, they don't seemed to have listened to your point :duh:

Wait a minute, didn't Panda and Ceedia write something about this just recently? But alex refuted it. Hmmm, I'm sure there's a connection here somewhere. If only I had gotten more auditing, then my IQ would have risen to the point where I could connect all the dots!

Wow! Does this mean that when nobody feeds them, trolls eat each other? :confused2:

And we get to waste our time reading their pointless posts :D

Neo
 

well_that_sucked

Patron with Honors
Roland prove xenu to the people that visit this site.

Whether people like it or not the cult of scientology's ot levels are about talking to yourself while pretending its really the ghosts of dead aliens (bts).

What sane person believes they can communicate with the afterlife and ETs in one shot?

Sad really, but unfortunately that is scientology's tech, Google body thetans yourself or read the wiki.

Panda how can you call me a troll for explaining the truth about scientology's bullshit beliefs on an ex scientologist message board?

My goal is to inform others so they can protect themselves from this cult, anyone trying to discredit that message without proof has a hidden agenda.

Here's hubturd the fraud in all his glory. so fucking ot

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angel

Patron with Honors
To well that sucked...

You are a troll because you start fights with posters on purpose.
You are a troll because you insult and name call posters that have experienced things that you have not.
nobody is insisting that you believe anything here, but you are posting insults to people that you do not understand.
Xenu and BTs aside, entities exist and that has nothing to do with Scn.
The real issue in my opinion should not be OTIII. Its up there on the gradient because of people like you that are overly sensitve. The real issue is being sucked into an organization that practices stirring up entities and being completely unaware of thats what its all about. Some people may want to practice that and they should be free to do so at their own risk. Like me you shouldnt find out years later.
You have no experience with entities hanging around and that is good. But please stop slamming and making fun of people who have had that experience because they need a forum to move forward outside of Scn. Please nobody is asking for you to believe. I am not insane and I do not hallucinate. If you met me at work or whatever you would be impressed. Truth be told because of my experiences I am different and I could use a forum to discuss my concerns and I hope I can stay here without being driven out by your name calling. Do you have no experiences whatsoever with communicating with entities using an occult method? Not even the Ouija Board? Nothing? I am ok with your feelings that Scn is very very dangerous. Well that sucked i agree with you.
 

well_that_sucked

Patron with Honors
You are a troll because you start fights with posters on purpose.
You are a troll because you insult and name call posters that have experienced things that you have not.
nobody is insisting that you believe anything here, but you are posting insults to people that you do not understand.
Xenu and BTs aside, entities exist and that has nothing to do with Scn.
The real issue in my opinion should not be OTIII. Its up there on the gradient because of people like you that are overly sensitve. The real issue is being sucked into an organization that practices stirring up entities and being completely unaware of thats what its all about. Some people may want to practice that and they should be free to do so at their own risk. Like me you shouldnt find out years later.
You have no experience with entities hanging around and that is good. But please stop slamming and making fun of people who have had that experience because they need a forum to move forward outside of Scn. Please nobody is asking for you to believe. I am not insane and I do not hallucinate. If you met me at work or whatever you would be impressed. Truth be told because of my experiences I am different and I could use a forum to discuss my concerns and I hope I can stay here without being driven out by your name calling. Do you have no experiences whatsoever with communicating with entities using an occult method? Not even the Ouija Board? Nothing? I am ok with your feelings that Scn is very very dangerous. Well that sucked i agree with you.

Ouiha board? do they even make that relic of a game anymore?

the ot levels are not real. scientology's promises are a complete and utter lie.

one cannot communicate with dead people and one cannot communicate with aliens.

The cult of scientology, and its deluded victims, promise that by reading words on paper written by a fraud, or listening to the hubturds most irritating voice, that you or anyone else can do both and have super homo novis ot powers

Without a single shred of evidence, and they expect you to pay $300,000 to get there.

You should be happy I state the truth for the lurkers.

Anyone that believes they are capable of doing those things is not right in the head.

Having a conversation with yourself (which is what solo auditing is) and pretending its dead alien ghosts is retarded, only a brainwashed culty or a complete idiot would believe this.

Where is the proof?

People give real money and give up their very real lives, even their children, for scientology's bullshit.

You say you talk to dead ETs I say STFU or prove it.
 

Pixie

Crusader
Wow! Does this mean that when nobody feeds them, trolls eat each other? :confused2:

Panda I just don't agree that just because two people have a disagreement that they are then immediately labeled a troll. In my view there is too much of these judgments and accusations, if people are not being called 'trolls' they are called OSA if they don't communicate in a way that suites some. People have the data they need now on your wonderful thread so why feel the need to keep pointing out OSA and trolls? :confused2: People have to sometimes find things out for themselves too, no one needs protecting here, we've come out of a mindbending cult, and if we can survive that we can survive anything.

Just my view, rather say it to you here than think it behind your back.

With respect... Pixie. :yes:
 

Rene Descartes

Gold Meritorious Patron
Panda I just don't agree that just because two people have a disagreement that they are then immediately labeled a troll. In my view there is too much of these judgments and accusations, if people are not being called 'trolls' they are called OSA if they don't communicate in a way that suites some. People have the data they need now on your wonderful thread so why feel the need to keep pointing out OSA and trolls? :confused2: People have to sometimes find things out for themselves too, no one needs protecting here, we've come out of a mindbending cult, and if we can survive that we can survive anything.

Just my view, rather say it to you here than think it behind your back.

With respect... Pixie. :yes:

Pixie...

You are OSA.

Oh wait, my bad.

No you are not OSA.

Sorry about that. :goodposting:

Just having fun because I got a kick out of your post. Makes me want to sit back and :happydance: when I see some of the things that people say to each other here.

I don't know about you but I am here to have fun and relish my freedom.

Oh wait. So are you. :blush:

Rd00
 

well_that_sucked

Patron with Honors
Panda I just don't agree that just because two people have a disagreement that they are then immediately labeled a troll. In my view there is too much of these judgments and accusations, if people are not being called 'trolls' they are called OSA if they don't communicate in a way that suites some. People have the data they need now on your wonderful thread so why feel the need to keep pointing out OSA and trolls? :confused2: People have to sometimes find things out for themselves too, no one needs protecting here, we've come out of a mindbending cult, and if we can survive that we can survive anything.

Just my view, rather say it to you here than think it behind your back.

With respect... Pixie. :yes:

Thanks for that Pixie, but really this post is about scientology's promise that people can communicate with alien ghosts (body thetans)

In all the scientific knowledge at man's disposal, throughout recorded history, there is no proof of ghosts or aliens.

Get that? scientology expects you to believe that if you give them enough money, and talk to yourself enough (solo audit) you too can conjure dead aliens and become super human.

I keep asking people here that make these claims, both in and now out of the cult of scientology, to prove it, yet no one can.

And that's because it is complete and utter bullshit

This is the guy that made these promises.

You wanna pay his cult $300,000 for these delusional ideas?

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Pixie

Crusader
Pixie...

You are OSA.

Oh wait, my bad.

No you are not OSA.

Sorry about that. :goodposting:

Just having fun because I got a kick out of your post. Makes me want to sit back and :happydance: when I see some of the things that people say to each other here.

I don't know about you but I am here to have fun and relish my freedom.

Oh wait. So are you. :blush:

Rd00

:laugh: Call me what you like Rene... I don't mind at all... :whistling:

My basic point is that we are all entitled to our opinions for sure and it's ok to have a conversation now without being policed however my own first posts were 'fuck scientology' and no one accused me of being a troll, I was just raw with emotion, and so might some others here, it doesn't mean that they are OSA trolls for heaven's sake! :eyeroll:
 

Pixie

Crusader
Thanks for that Pixie, but really this post is about scientology's promise that people can communicate with alien ghosts (body thetans)

In all the scientific knowledge at man's disposal, throughout recorded history, there is no proof of either.

Get that? scientology expects you to believe that if you give them enough money, and talk to yourself enough (solo audit) you too can conjure dead aliens and become super human.

I keep asking people here that make these claims, both in and now out of the cult of scientology, to prove it, yet no one can.

And that's because it is complete and utter bullshit

This is the guy that made these promises.

You wanna pay his cult $300,000 for his delusional ideas?

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Yes I understand this for sure, and I too used to get extrordinarily angry when I would read posts like that too which resembled something like so: :angry: :grouch: :hissyfit: :storm: :furious: :pullhair: :banghead: :hurt: ... yes, that used to be me, however, what you have to understand is that when one has believed something for so long, been brainwashed, perhaps spent so much money they've lost their homes etc, it's hard to let go because it means that you have to admit you were conned, and not everyone is up to that admission yet which is why I now give all that a wide berth.

It's just about people evolving at different rates. I see patterns in the 'awakenings' of some on this board and it's astounding the different levels that one goes through in that process. Even thinking everyone is an OSA troll is part of the awakenig process in my view. Point is though, if you want to have a relaxed and happy life and not have a heart attack, you shouldn't bother too much what other people think, that is something you can never control anyway. Sure, go ahead and ask for proof, but don't 'demand' it or make them wrong for believing it. Yes, it's delusional, but to them it's real and that has to be respected whether we want to or not.

Allow people to find stuff out at their own pace, sure, go ahead and point it out and if you think it's bullshit fine, but in my experience, the more you force your own beliefs on people the less they are likely to listen, do you know what I'm saying here? You cannot shake people's 'stable datum' all in one go, just as you cannot just smash a tree down without getting splinters in your eyes. Slowly slowly gently catchy monkey. :thumbsup:
 

well_that_sucked

Patron with Honors
Yes I understand this for sure, and I too used to get extrordinarily angry when I would read posts like that too which resembled something like so: :angry: :grouch: :hissyfit: :storm: :furious: :pullhair: :banghead: :hurt: ... yes, that used to be me, however, what you have to understand is that when one has believed something for so long, been brainwashed, perhaps spent so much money they've lost their homes etc, it's hard to let go because it means that you have to admit you were conned, and not everyone is up to that admission yet which is why I now give all that a wide berth.

It's just about people evolving at different rates. I see patterns in the 'awakenings' of some on this board and it's astounding the different levels that one goes through in that process. Even thinking everyone is an OSA troll is part of the awakenig process in my view. Point is though, if you want to have a relaxed and happy life and not have a heart attack, you shouldn't bother too much what other people think, that is something you can never control anyway. Sure, go ahead and ask for proof, but don't 'demand' it or make them wrong for believing it. Yes, it's delusional, but to them it's real and that has to be respected whether we want to or not.

Allow people to find stuff out at their own pace, sure, go ahead and point it out and if you think it's bullshit fine, but in my experience, the more you force your own beliefs on people the less they are likely to listen, do you know what I'm saying here? You cannot shake people's 'stable datum' all in one go, just as you cannot just smash a tree down without getting splinters in your eyes. Slowly slowly gently catchy monkey. :thumbsup:

I'm not looking to change anyone's belief's.

My goal is to keep these greasy bastards from stealing another life and if that means fucking up a true believers head and making him question his sanity. So be it.

Regardless of how the truth is delivered, it is still the truth.
 

well_that_sucked

Patron with Honors
You watch a man slowly die of cancer because the cult said they could cure him, see how long the anger lasts. Its not about me Pixie, there are people in real danger.
 

Pixie

Crusader
I'm not looking to change anyone's belief's.

My goal is to keep these greasy bastards from stealing another life and if that means fucking up a true believers head and making him question his sanity. So be it.

Regardless of how the truth is delivered, it is still the truth.

For sure, and I agree the truth is the truth, all I am saying is that other's have their truths too and you have to be able to see that without trying to shove it down the gullet so to speak. You do what you feel you must though, I respect that, I respect that people are honest in their intentions when posting no matter what they say. I'd much prefer that than a load of PR and bullshit which is sometimes prevelant too, it's not a personality contest, it's a forum to help us awaken. :yes:

You watch a man slowly die of cancer because the cult said they could cure him, see how long the anger lasts. Its not about me Pixie, there are people in real danger.

I agree wholeheartedly, and for sure it's up to us to put the truth out there. I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying here. Perhaps I was just pointing out that if this were done in a more subtle tone, the message may just get through. But meanwhile, you keep doing what you think is right, that is what counts. :thumbsup:
 

well_that_sucked

Patron with Honors
For sure, and I agree the truth is the truth, all I am saying is that other's have their truths too and you have to be able to see that without trying to shove it down the gullet so to speak. You do what you feel you must though, I respect that, I respect that people are honest in their intentions when posting no matter what they say. I'd much prefer that than a load of PR and bullshit which is sometimes prevelant too, it's not a personality contest, it's a forum to help us awaken. :yes:



I agree wholeheartedly, and for sure it's up to us to put the truth out there. I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying here. Perhaps I was just pointing out that if this were done in a more subtle tone, the message may just get through. But meanwhile, you keep doing what you think is right, that is what counts. :thumbsup:

I appreciate the advice, and on that note I'm going for a swim
 
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