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Arnie Lerma's Work Restored

Discussion in 'Great Web Sites and Links' started by Watchful Navigator, Aug 31, 2019.

  1. Arnie Lerma's work has been fully restored.

    Lermanet is restored as:
    (restore broken links by substituting ".org" for ".com")

    Arnie's wordpress articles are now here:
    (restore broken links by substituting "" for "")

    A timeline of events under construction, with events from the last few years added:
    (you will also find a notarized affidavit here giving legal information pertaining to the above sites)

    Arnie Lerma and I made friends here on ESMB near the end of 2012 or so, when I came out with a write-up on how he was betrayed by OSA operations that I was a part of (I was DSA CC Dallas 1999-2004 and DSA Costa Rica 2004-2009).

    Arnie and I remained friends, and during our conversations he asked me to reveal to the world what he had revealed to me.

    I have done so in the - but there is more to come.

    When I saw his work being taken down over the last year, I decided to do something about it. I received a tip and some legal ideas from a couple of friends as to how to get this done, and I did it.

    My own work is linked at a central website: and promotes a generic, non-religious, philosophy-based approach to auditing and life improvement.

    In order to discard the moral relativism of Hubbard Scientology, I plunged into philosophy and over-turned those of the flawed Scientology axioms in favor of a common-sense philosophical framework which is slowly becoming a book:

    The only other thing I have to add is eight years of heavy Fair Game and I am wiped out.

    I only ask that you please read the opening pages of the Investigation & Memorial site for Arnie, before commenting here on this thread:


    Scott Gordon

    Attached Files:

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  2. exexex

    exexex Patron

    what i heard is that it was given over to scientology by his wife- she went back to scientology and supposedly turned over all Arnies accounts to them
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  3. tesseract

    tesseract Patron with Horrors

    Thank you so much for doing this!!! :cheerleader:
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  4. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    Awesome, Scott!

    A tremendously valuable project to undertaken and to have completed!!

    As we say in Oz, WOWZA! Mate
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  5. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    I love Arnie's work. Thank-you for restoring it!

    With regards to the excerpt of your post I quoted though, if Arnie wished to reveal something to the world, why didn't he just do it himself?
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  6. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    Where did you hear that? His wife (Ginger) posted here for a short while after Arnie shot her and himself but she didn't give the impression she was going to try and go back to the cult. I do recall she was trying to raise money for medical costs though and am wondering if the cult offered to pay for the info?

    I'm not saying you're wrong but proof and a bit more information would be appreciated if you have it please.
  7. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    I think that's great news.
  8. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    Yes trouble
    She (apparently) turned over the site and returned back to the COS (A to E ???)
    Then' Arnie's site was soon put down.
    I don't know the specifics ( nobody knows), but it seems there was a family disconnection issue she wanted to resolve this way.
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  9. lotus

    lotus stubborn rebel sheep!

    Thank you Scott,
    You did a great job to keep the data base available. Thank you for letting know.

    Put that the in your pipe OSA.

    * although I don't find appropriate to stir the tragic situation with speculations added to facts and won't read this part though. Again, much thanks for the great work.
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  10. chipgallo

    chipgallo Patron Meritorious

    Makes a good shore story too. Check out Arnie at a protest outside DC org:

  11. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Hi Watchful Navigator, and many thanks.

    Will the images that Arnie placed on the web, such as page 110 from Volney Mathison's book, 'Creative Imagery', be appearing back on the web as images?
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  12. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Thank you Scott for your restoring of Arnie's materials.

    And I agree David Miscavige must go.

    However, I have strong doubt that your pushing to save Scientology is a good thing.

    That said: “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” –and “When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” Socrates
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  13. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    Regardless of any of Scott's religious beliefs, or other beliefs, this is a good thing. Thank you for doing this.
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  14. Hello Veda

    So far it looks like all images have been restored - but please let me know if you find anything missing.

    This site is built from a capture of February 27, 2018 - three weeks before Arnie's passing.

    For this version, I have already gotten reports of a few missing pages:

    1) on a Scott Mayer page;
    2) the webbing of Nancy Many's book (when it was still a draft version?)

    This is very strange, since Arnie would web material but would not then ever edit or remove it (he told me privately that he didn't know enough to do that - that once something was webbed, he had to use search engines to even find it) so I find this very strange since it looks like Arnie's site may have been tampered with in the last months of his life.

    [EDIT - I am also informed that in at least one page, a broken link may have occurred in the restoration process - in one case the material reappears, but the other, no - so in any case there is missing material, which I will endeavor to get back on - SG]

    The Wayback Machine tells the story. One can find when it was there and when it was gone.

    I will try to find a way to restore this missing material, as soon as I can - and should be able to do so. Letting me know if you find anything missing would be a great help.

    Last edited: Sep 1, 2019
  15. Lulu Belle

    Lulu Belle Moonbat

    I googled it but had a hard time finding anything. Yes, I heard the same but couldn't remember where I'd heard it.

    This is what I was able to find.
  16. Glenda

    Glenda Crusader

    I saw it on her FB page. She initially had it as a public post, hence I saw it because I am not friends with her on FB. A few weeks later when I went to look at it again the post was gone. I can't remember exactly what she wrote but it was basically saying she was going to do A to E and return to scientology.
  17. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    That's so sad.
  18. AD1950

    AD1950 Patron

  19. exexex

    exexex Patron

    I saw proof that she went back, someone posted her A&E signed document of her trying to get back in to scientology
  20. exexex

    exexex Patron


    this is the first step to get back in, to publicly announce that you were wrongly judging the church
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