Lynn Fountain Campbell
Silver Meritorious Patron
YOU HAVE UPSET THE WRONG GROUP THIS TIME
Ana
As they say in my neighborhood, "Dey don' know who dey messin' wit'."
Lynn
YOU HAVE UPSET THE WRONG GROUP THIS TIME
Ana
I wish that everyone would quit calling it a "church". It isn't a church. Let's get the terminology correct.
Church to me is a body of people who wish to do good in the world, people who hate to see injustice. It is NOT to my way of thinking a building but a group of like minded people who find so many things wrong with the way the world IS.
I make a point of always putting "Church" in inverted commas when referring to the "church" of $cientology because it is a FARC£E.Never to be confused with an actual religion.Most of the public I speak with at pickets agree with this.
There currently seems a push to associate the word "attack" with anyone critical of scientology, and to make exposing crimes a terrorist activity. Has anyone else noticed the subtle push for exes to "get even"?
You are not an "attacker" if you are simply stating the truth. We have a right to state the truth, and the world needs to know the abuses, criminal activites and crimes currently being committed. There is no stigma to that.
Go for it Ana!
Read up OSA. We are here for you! Tellin it like it is!
Reminding you that you have your heads inserted all the way up there where the sun don't shine!
I am on board with this one!
Disagree, EastAnon! The CofS encompasses more than just a mere cult. Cults aren't generally a force to be reckoned with - the CofS is!Ceedia,
Sorry, but cult is the only word that describes it. In every cult, there are the ones who have power, the ones who use it, and the ones who are being used. It's a community on it's own, but on a different set of rules.
Yep, you an others obviously! So, to you people -
Putting aside the fact that some of us use this board to communicate to others who are looking, and not yet decided on which direction to take (lurkers/fence sitters), what the hell do you suggest we call this 'thing' - if not the 'church' or 'CofS'?
Do you seriously consider that "cult" fits the bill? I certainly don't! To me, 'the cult' just refers to that group of imbeciles/pawns who have forwarded and fallen prey to the enslavement that's been originated and overseen by a greater power! (even DM himself is too much of a dumb fuck to be anything but a pawn in the game!)
To me, the 'CofS' or 'church' refers to the whole package - the powers that be, the pawns that play it out, and the enslavement that ensues!
If all of you who are so 'on board' with not calling it the 'CofS' or 'church', then what would you suggest calling instead? (and don't say 'cult' - it doesn't cut it, cause it's only part of it!)
Yep, you an others obviously! So, to you people -
Putting aside the fact that some of us use this board to communicate to others who are looking, and not yet decided on which direction to take (lurkers/fence sitters), what the hell do you suggest we call this 'thing' - if not the 'church' or 'CofS'?
Do you seriously consider that "cult" fits the bill? I certainly don't! To me, 'the cult' just refers to that group of imbeciles/pawns who have forwarded and fallen prey to the enslavement that's been originated and overseen by a greater power! (even DM himself is too much of a dumb fuck to be anything but a pawn in the game!)
To me, the 'CofS' or 'church' refers to the whole package - the powers that be, the pawns that play it out, and the enslavement that ensues!
If all of you who are so 'on board' with not calling it the 'CofS' or 'church', then what would you suggest calling instead? (and don't say 'cult' - it doesn't cut it, cause it's only part of it!)
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In order to not dismiss your point:
The damage done by churches is another topic all together. IMHO they need to qualify being a church to do that kind of damage.
Note:The above makes no sense that I see.
Scientology does not even qualify to be catagorized as a church.
Note: Again, this is opinion - I may agree, but...it is recognized in the US.
Also, Please try to be civil. I promise I will always attempt to do the same.
Note: May you be successful in your attempts.
I dont really enjoy being referred to as "YOU PEOPLE."
Note:What, then, would you enjoy?
I understand why you are passionate, but in many ways you are preaching to the choir here on the ESMB.[/QUOTE]
Note:
Do you totally discount "lurkers" and members who are still "in" ?
This post leaves me puzzled as to why it was submitted...it seems disjointed and rather a personal "rant" in which offense was taken when none was apparent to me.
Rpy/EP
'Dunno why I'm reminded of this, but Boy George had a hit record in the '80s with a song called "The Church Of The Poisoned Mind."
Seriously, Kevin and Duddins are right; they don't qualify as a church in any meaningful sense. They're at best a business corporation.
Do not take this a disagreement please - I am just simply curious as to what all the fuss is about here. A couple of responses might help, I think:
1.) Are there, in your opinion, any orgs/groups/bureaucracies that do qualify as a "church" and could you cite at least one as an example?
2.) Just to set a "standard value" here - do you consider "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Mormonism) a "church"?
And for the record - I, personally, never considered or accepted the CofS as a "church"; much less "my" church. I neither need nor want a "church" in my life! I was raised protestant (Methodist), btw. I have never been religiously inclined and the idea of being "born again" and such like is ludicrous to me. (no offense meant to anyone by that remark either.)
Roy/EP