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Australian Religious Worker visas - does Scientology use them?

Discussion in 'Australia and New Zealand' started by OTBT, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. OTBT

    OTBT Patron Meritorious

    Australian government document for your perusal:

    Some interesting stuff in here, such as the very last item in this doc:

    Hmmm, that doesn't sound anything at all like the standard Billion-year Sea Org contract.

    More details from Aussie gov't regarding their Religious Worker visa program:

    Before I start digging around more, can anyone confirm or deny, or provide any info, if scientology uses the Religious Worker Visa program in Australia, for importing non-Aussie Sea Org into Australian Orgs?

    I don't want to be wasting my time researching this, if it is not applicable.
  2. cantsay

    cantsay Patron Meritorious

    I have heard of this, I know there were several OOT staff from Class V orgs that I met in Sydney that were on these visas - from the Philippines, Japan, and other asian countries.
  3. Carmel

    Carmel Crusader

    Yes they do, or at least I know for a fact that they did.

    A couple of years ago, I was speaking to young man about a problem he had. His parents were Sea Org, and came out here on religious visas years ago, when this young man was a very young boy. He grew up here in Sydney, and had little or no recall of life in the country he was from. Now at age 25, the Aussie immigration dept were going to deport him (and send him back to the country he left when he was very young), because he and his parents were here on religious visas the whole time (a couple of decades). Now that he was out of the Sea Org, and was wanting to work, he was going to be sent back to his "home" country. He ended up getting a working visa here, but the last I heard, the matter is still not fully resolved.
  4. OTBT

    OTBT Patron Meritorious

    Cantsay and Carmel, thanks for the confirmations. I'll do some more digging around then.
  5. OTBT

    OTBT Patron Meritorious

    Since ANZO seems to be having difficulties, I thought it would helpful to add to their legal headaches... Right now, this is a fishing expedition, pulling the line, trying to snag a General Sherman Tank in Scientology Australia's legal department. Any advice and input is appreciated.

    Info from Aussie gov't Immigration regarding the Sponsoring Religious Organization (obviously, Church of Scientology in this instance):

    Please forgive my woeful ignorance on Aussie version of Sea Org and OOTs. A few questions:

    Is Scientology officially considered a religion in Australia, i.e. a "recognized religious organisation?
    Are there a maximum numbers of hours per week that employees (or "volunteers") are allowed to work per week?

    If I recall correctly, when I visited factories in Sydney a few years ago, I was told that labor law only allowed employees to work a maximum of 35 hours per week; is this correct?
    Would Sea Org work week of 90 - 110 hours per week violate immigration labor laws?


    Does the Freeloader's debt break any of these obligations above?


    Info for visa holders (not the sponsoring organization)

    Do foreign Sea Org staff pay Australian taxes?
    If so, can this tax information be found anywhere, or is it confidential?
    How does Church of Scientology in Australia escape minimum wage requirements for Sea Org staff?
  6. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    They do. But then you're on your own after it expires.
  7. OTBT

    OTBT Patron Meritorious

    Lemme see, a standard Sea Org contract lasts for a billion years, and the current Teegeack meat body lasts roughly 100 years. So assuming the foreign OT Sea Org staff member is able to evade Aussie immigration law enforcement during this lifetime, that means there only 9.999.899 years left to outsmart primitive Aussie wog immigration dullards for the duration of the contract.

    Not to worry mate, we'll buy a few pints for Aussie senators next lifetime (Tommy Davis will be paying).
  8. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    9. how many more years on beans and rice?
  9. OTBT

    OTBT Patron Meritorious

    You have an MU, see your MAA for lowers. It's RICE and BEANS. Your agonized eternity dependz on it. 10% IAS discount applicable in approved countries / CLUs
  10. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    I found it was termed "beans and rice" in the UK, and "rice and beans" in the US. Not joking. I don't know about other countries.

  11. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    That should be easy.:no:

    Placing "beans" or "rice" first makes one taste better than the other?
  12. degraded being

    degraded being Sponsor

    Yeah. Upstats may dine on beans and rice.
    Down stats eat rice and beans.

    RPFers Has-beans and lice.
  13. behindmycamel

    behindmycamel Patron