Australians all let us rejoice

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Opinions - I have 'em in ABUNDANCE!

Roy,

Thanks mate, you are a ripper of a bloke and your observations are spot on, I have had the same thought myself. I also had some trepidation about how dangerous they might get in their death throes.

I'm afraid EXTREMELY dangerous - to self, others and bystanders, including small innocent animals and pets. I shit you not.

As far as trouble is concerned I am making my own, by warning my friends of the cults true nature, their natural impulse to stifle free speech alone makes them socially abhorrent. My fault...I got into scn to help, now I am getting out of scn to help!! LOL

It is the same thing for me, and we are not the "only ones" by a long shot. The real OTs are out here and operations are just getting underway, IMHO.

Kevin Bloody Mackey

Kevin me lad, thank you for confirmin' my view on this! As they used to say somewhere..."the plot thickens!".

Roy, the EP's EP

 

[Lucretia]

To Kevin/feral and ANZO folks and interested persons,

I would point that in larger perspective, the "church of scientology" situation is a small pimple on a very large, wrinkled red ass.

Too true. For those in Oz who haven't seen it FTS looked at the 2006 Australian census figures. 2500 $cns in all of Oz! After 50 years of blood, sweat and tears, from all the poor bastards who thought the cult was the answer for mankind. Bloody pitiful. And I agree, the death throes will be nasty!

Just by the way - somehow I got a free copy of Grazia sent to me by mail. It's a new mag (I think!) with fashion/celebrity news in it. Not my bag usually but in it was a two page article entitled "My escape from Scientology" - Karen Wolff's story. I can't work out whether she is from Australia or not, but it's the sad story of a $cn kid with child abuse, disconnection, etc, all the disgusting and obscene things we have come to expect from this toxic organisation. The story is not on their website, grazia.com.au, just a hard copy, all over the country!!!!! Woo hooo!!

 

[Carmel]

To Kevin/feral and ANZO folks and interested persons,

Big change is occurring in the ranks of the "church" as I see it. Right now the ANZO folks (both "out" and "in) are getting the brunt of the dying convulsions of a mortally wounded animal. This is something that happens in nature; and, can take some confronting, as most of you guys and gals down there know from experience in the world of nature, farming, hunting and the like.

The "true believers" remaining "in" are acting in the valence of the psychotic, unilateral and despotic "COB" DM; who is becoming more unpredictably dangerous as time passes. This is the nature of the beast. Those "in" but NOT "true believers" are in a most difficult bind. for sure. Neither is it a "walk in the park" for anyone else involved!

Each previously stable terminal who is publicly "out" shakes the stable data of both types still remaining "in" and leaves them in confusion, mystery or worse.

To expect any of those remaining "in" to behave, communicate or act in a sane and/or rational manner as was their demeanor before recent events; is, IMHO, unrealistic.

Perhaps I have a more exterior view, way up here in the northern Hemi, but I would predict some really wild, nasty and unpleasant things to outflow from the "ins" which will, perhaps, be pretty damn hurtful to those who chose to leave, but still have ties of friendship, affection and family "inside".

My heart goes out in sympathy and empathy to all who experience this unavoidable period in the death of the organization. Unfortunately, I believe it to be inescapable, inevitable and ultimately cleansing.

Before too long, a similar scene is virtually certain to occur up here; and the fallout will be similar I'm sure. ANZO folks live in a much more connected society than here in the USA, where isolation is the rule rather than the exception, so it will manifest differently; but the results will be similar.

I would point that in larger perspective, the "church of scientology" situation is a small pimple on a very large, wrinkled red ass. Look at the numbers versus the total population and press on with your lives as free persons. Any way I can be of help, I will try. PMs always welcome.

Love,

Roy, the EP's EP

Thanks for this post Roy. Your understanding of the current scene is appreciated, as is your evaluation of same, and your support - a timely reminder to not take it all too personally when the bullets start flying, and a comfort when the going is a little rough.

Love,
Carmel

Roy,

Thanks mate, you are a ripper of a bloke and your observations are spot on..........deleted............ I also had some trepidation about how dangerous they might get in their death throes.

As far as trouble is concerned I am making my own, by warning my friends of the cults true nature, their natural impulse to stifle free speech alone makes them socially abhorrent. My fault...I got into scn to help, now I am getting out of scn to help!! LOL

Kevin Bloody Mackey

Ditto, Kev!

It's tough when our intentions and purposes to help (those same ones we had, while within the ranks of the CofS), are now seen as intentions and purposes to harm and destroy that which is good - by those who we care for.

While this causes some anxt, it is nothing like the anxt of the many harmed and/or hurting at the hands of the CofS. While unpleasant as these personal attacks may be, it won't act as a deterrent in our quest that not too far up the line - we will all have good reason to rejoice!

Sorry OSA - not stat on this one!

 

[Carmel]

Grrrhhhh!

Sorry to disappoint you but it was a NZ production crew and cast, with full support from NZ on Air

I'm aware of this ya bloody git! But did ya have to tell the whole world! People could get the idea that Kiwis are a kinky, off beat bunch, who are maybe even worse than Tasmanians!

 

[degraded being]

I thought it was "Eats, SHOOTS and leaves"!

We oughta maybe be fair here...........or.........maybe is same thing.....

EP (Ethics Particle)

Eats, roots, shoots, and leaves.

 

[degraded being]

In nz the situation is that any OSA handlings of OTs is very risky. Lose one and you risk losing them all. When they have gone, so has your org.

Likely outcome? The dissent bubbles away like a slow-cooker until the cooking is indeed, done.

Osa can call their fear-of-collapse-based-strategies "handling" or "data collection".

 

[Panda Termint]

In nz the situation is that any OSA handlings of OTs is very risky. Lose one and you risk losing them all. When they have gone, so has your org.

Likely outcome? The dissent bubbles away like a slow-cooker until the cooking is indeed, done.

Osa can call their fear-of-collapse-based-strategies "handling" or "data collection".

Exactamundo!
Critics don't need to get out the flame-thrower, they just need to keep the heat on.
The harder OSA tries to "keep a lid on it", the more they turn it into a pressure-cooker!

 

[Stan D'Teque]

My opinion - this isn't death throes we're experiencing here - it's the stench of decomposition. Any movement is due to the build-up of gases within the corpse. And of course the maggots having a temporary feast until they've eaten everything. Co$ is sooooo lke Nazi Germany circa March 1945 - Supreme Leader is still planning the last Major Offensive that will sweep all the enemies into the sea. Meanwhile, the good officers are being executed and anyone with sense is running for the hills. Hopefully we get to watch a War Crimes Trial.

 

[Feral]

Aussies and Kiwis

Just to clarify this situation with Aussies and Kiwis;

It is best explained by likening it to brothers and sisters, we are similar but different, we are mates. But Kiwis are like that younger sibling that tags along and doesn't quite understand the big boy jokes.

New Zealand is one of the smallest of Australia's states and territories, we let them have their own sovereignty ages ago but the Maoris still haven't been beaten and never will be, fierce people those Maoris. They've driven the brighter Kiwis out (the ones that could purchase and arrange travel) and they live here in Oz now, it's nice to have them here, mostly.(Russel Crowe is a bit rough though)

As a farmer I am always explaining to Ceedia that "sheep work" is not a 2D activity, any time I tell her I have to do some sheep work she giggles. So you see we are not exactly the same!:confused2:

 

[Carmel]

3 points to Feral - this time!

Just to clarify this situation with Aussies and Kiwis;

It is best explained by likening it to brothers and sisters, we are similar but different, we are mates. But Kiwis are like that younger sibling that tags along and doesn't quite understand the big boy jokes.

New Zealand is one of the smallest of Australia's states and territories, we let them have their own sovereignty ages ago but the Maoris still haven't been beaten and never will be, fierce people those Maoris. They've driven the brighter Kiwis out (the ones that could purchase and arrange travel) and they live here in Oz now, it's nice to have them here, mostly.(Russel Crowe is a bit rough though)

As a farmer I am always explaining to Ceedia that "sheep work" is not a 2D activity, any time I tell her I have to do some sheep work she giggles. So you see we are not exactly the same!:confused2:

till next time.......

 

[Zinjifar]

If I'm understanding this right, that means the Tasmanians are kept in the attic and fed through a bunghole?

Zinj

 

[wolfright]

Not my bag usually but in it was a two page article entitled "My escape from Scientology" - Karen Wolff's story. I can't work out whether she is from Australia or not, but it's the sad story of a $cn kid with child abuse, disconnection, etc, all the disgusting and obscene things we have come to expect from this toxic organisation. The story is not on their website, grazia.com.au, just a hard copy, all over the country!!!!! Woo hooo!!

Hey, um, that's my story, and I still haven't seen it. Can you scan it and post the images? And no, I'm not Australian, I'm from LA. They just picked me because I hadn't told my story yet.

I'm over at ExScientologyKids.com as DoubleVee.... or I also have my full story up at partiallife.blogspot.com

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

A KIWI-AUSSIE achievement!

Here in Australia there seems to be some sort of cataclysmic event going on, it is very troubling.

The Kiwis have gotten the credit for an Aussie achievement!!!

So if you are an Aussie,(especially if you are recently out) this is your thread, we are setting the record straight!

Any of you blokes or sheilas who want to encourage any lurkers who might be sitting on the fence, this is your very own Aussie thread and a great chance to stick it up the rest of the world! (as well as OSA).

Come and celebrate your bloody minded Anzo cases here!!

To further commemorate the Cataclysymic Event which just occurred at Carmel's place, just outside of Sydney a few days ago now!

I happened to be browsing the board looking for something and this (then buried) thread seemed to foreshadow the event.

Insofar as I know, the ANZO bash was the FIRST EVER substantial gathering of Ex Scios and critics in the history of the F'n UNIVERSE! :megaphone:

 

[Zinjifar]

To further commemorate the Cataclysymic Event which just occurred at Carmel's place, just outside of Sydney a few days ago now!

I happened to be browsing the board looking for something and this (then buried) thread seemed to foreshadow the event.

Insofar as I know, the ANZO bash was the FIRST EVER substantial gathering of Ex Scios and critics in the history of the F'n UNIVERSE! :megaphone:

Well, per se maybe Wish Idda been there, but, on a less (hard to imagine maybe) basis, Graham Berry threw a number of parties at his place following pickets at Big Blue and we'd have a really fascinating mixed bag of critics/exes.

Naturally, he didn't have go-karts though.

Zinj

 

[ttamaad]

Insofar as I know, the ANZO bash was the FIRST EVER substantial gathering of Ex Scios and critics in the history of the F'n UNIVERSE! :megaphone:

and it should be noted that Carmel is a Kiwi.

The Aussies need Kiwis to organise things because they are usually too pissed to do it themselves

 

[scooter]

and it should be noted that Carmel is a Kiwi.

The Aussies need Kiwis to organise things because they are usually too pissed to do it themselves

No mate, we just like to help our less well-off neighbours by offering them meaningful employment since they don't have any at home

 

[ttamaad]

No mate, we just like to help our less well-off neighbours by offering them meaningful employment since they don't have any at home

What a horrible thing to say....

pity its true

 

[Lohan2008]

Yes

If I'm understanding this right, that means the Tasmanians are kept in the attic and fed through a bunghole?

Zinj

I couldnt date or marry anyone from Tasmania as most of them are my cousin or at least 2nd cousin

Zinj, a lot of people form the "Mainland" move to Tassy when they retire, it is like a refuse dump for the genetically challenged

 

[sallydannce]

No mate, we just like to help our less well-off neighbours by offering them meaningful employment since they don't have any at home

So rude!

So true!

 

[ttamaad]

ah that meaningful employment like you get at the ANZO church group. I remember it well

work here
no pay
no conditions... oh except the conditions you do for being so out ethics