be gentle it's my first time

[Smurf]

Yes, Martin Samuels ran cosmod. His declare was unbelievable at the time. Martin, by any measure, was the most successful mission holder ever. We won the birthday game every year. He was gang banged at the Mission Holder's conference by the Finance Police and eventually declared. The week before, Martin, Kingsley Wimbush of Stevens Creek and Bent Corydon of Riverside brought in nearly 500,000. All three are now declared.

This made me wonder what Martin & Kingsley were up to nowadays. I didn't know Kingsley died in 2013.

"Kingsley J Wimbush, beloved Husband, Father, Friend, and Counselor passed on 3/10/13 in Colorado Springs at 1:33 am after a brief illness.... His pursuit of truth led Kingsley down several paths. From the age of fifteen until he was thirty-eight, Kingsley was involved with the Church of Scientology. Through dedication and hard work, Kingsley was the head of two branches of the Church of Scientology at his dismissal.

Later Kingsley discovered Christianity and applied Christian principles in all his affairs (both personal and professional).

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/gazette/obituary.aspx?n=kingsley-j-wimbush&pid=163741247

Martin now lives quietly in Emeryville, CA.

 

[SPsince83]

I clicked that link and couldn't get anywhere on it. I'll try again. It so happens Suzette contacted me. I never knew Phil.

K got it thanks. I had many of the same experiences as the Dearings. Reg Caldwell/Cota/Michel was the ED in Sac when I was public and then in SF when I was on staff there.

 

[SPsince83]

________________________________________________________________________

Might your encounter at the record store have been Tower Records ?

Amazing similarities with how the trap was sprung on me.
Recently out of the navy. Finishing up at SCC. Friend, who is COSMOD Public, has found this wonderful
thing that can't be explained. It has to be experienced. He introduces be to this foxey nymph, who passes
me off to this beautiful woman, who charms the shit out of me and wham bam. My first drink of the koolaide
and I'm hooked.
My troubles are in the past. I have found the answers.

Fucking beautiful, mindless con-artists.
_________________________________________________________________________

Tower Records indeed. Country Club. The body routers used to troll city college too. "What is it that's holding you back and ruining your life?" What if a what if question produces a wrong item and you indicate it? Oops, out list. What happens if the Div 6 reg blows someone out of his body but then they snap back in? Oops. Out Int. Then you cut his comm. Oops. Out ruds.

Good times.

 

[SPsince83]

Tower Records indeed. Country Club. The body routers used to troll city college too. "What is it that's holding you back and ruining your life?" What if a what if question produces a wrong item and you indicate it? Oops, out list. What happens if the Div 6 reg blows someone out of his body but then they snap back in? Oops. Out Int. Then you cut his comm. Oops. Out ruds.

Good times.

And it's all ok cuz the "worst case" scenario will just add 50 hrs to his Life Repair and his dad has money

 

[Lulu Belle]

K got it thanks. I had many of the same experiences as the Dearings. Reg Caldwell/Cota/Michel was the ED in Sac when I was public and then in SF when I was on staff there.

What a nutjob she was. Knew her in the SO. She was CO AOLA for a while.

 

[SPsince83]

Hi there SPsince83,

I'm a never in, an Anon working on the big list of ex-COS members speaking out. Maybe you have seen it.

Link: http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Former_Church_of_Scientology_members_who_have_spoken_out

We're almost at 2,500 so you would be most welcome!

(Just kidding, take your time.)

Haven't found anyone yet but I just started looking. Thanks

 

[SPsince83]

What a nutjob she was. Knew her in the SO. She was CO AOLA for a while.

She was known by many to have been a repressed lesbian. Think she ever had a session that WASN'T done over a PTP?

 

[Adam7986]

For a long time I thought I would go back. Now I know I won't ever. In the early 2000s I got up the nerve to look at OTIII. I got sick alright..... when I realized the magnitude of the fraud I literally threw up. And I do mean literally literally. Bodyfuckingthetans. GFY LRH. Then the anonymous thing almost had me reaching out but I didn't. It took a significant death of someone I really loved to bring me here.

Something we have in common.

You've been an SP longer than I have been alive. Respect!

 

[SPsince83]

Something we have in common.

You've been an SP longer than I have been alive. Respect!

Thanks man. Sorry for your loss.

 

[DeeAnna]

Welcome SPsince83.

Re: Grief. No matter how long ago a beloved person died, the day we learn of the death is the day we begin to grieve. So while the death may be "old", the grief is new.

I have experienced a situation similar to yours, in the sense of learning that someone with whom I had once been in a relationship and had cared a lot about had been dead for some time. I want to tell you, it really threw me for a loop. I went through grieving, almost as if we had still been in an ongoing relationship. Which we had not been for some years. And I was really surprised at the time at how deeply I felt that.

Nowadays I've come to know that grief is grief. And it is powerful.

As a never-in, learning that the Cof$ suppresses the expression of grief among their adherents does not surprise me. They do that because grief is such a powerful emotion. And it can often be life-changing. Thus, John Travolta had handlers for two years after the death of his son.

So, my sincere condolences to you for your loss of your friend and loved one.

 

[Ogsonofgroo]

Belated SPsince83, as the old saw goes, better late than never~

I see TrevAnon pointed out 'The Big List' (link in my siggy), it is well worthwhile to check out Ethercat's most awesome exit survey @Through the Door too, some fascinating reading and a site that can always use more contributors ~ http://alley.ethercat.com/door/

And stories, did anyone mention we loves stories?

:dancer:

 

[SPsince83]

It's such a long twisted story with many nooks and crannys. I don't quite know where to begin. The actual beginning is this: I had just been discharged from the Navy. I was selling cars and failing badly. One day I was in the record store and a cute girl with no bra started talking to me. It didn't take much convincing to go to the scn center with her. She sang "I'll Be Your Baby Tonight" all the way there. She handed me off to an even cuter girl who hit me with 2D fear as a ruin. I signed up.


To be continued............

The only problem was I didn't have the 50 bucks. So my Div 6 cutie pie drove me to my mom's house to borrow the money. That went easily enough and I paid for the course. So onto the comm course the next day.

The comm course was the most bang for the buck. It did raise my ability to deal with customers and I started making more money. During the course, I was pulled out to be regged (of course I didn't understand this at the time, I thought they were just pleased with my success from the course and wanted to help me even more)
The first meeting was with this woman who looked for all the world like a diesel dyke (found out later I was right. She had done lower conditions at least once for homosexual activity). She had a vicious looking Doberman in the room who growled at me the whole time. I was so freaked that the interview was impossible. I couldn't wait to get out of the room. The next time was with this guy who started out insisting scn was the only thing that worked. We got into an argument about that and I left the room unregged again.

I should inject some deep background here. I come from a highly educated, professional/scholar class family. Generations of doctors and lawyers and educators and such. My father was an anesthesiologist and my mother had a master's in marriage and family counselling, which was essentially a clinical psychology field. Both my parents were heavily involved in Transactional Analysis, which was a very popular talk therapy modality in the sixties and seventies. This all came about because I had been so unhappy in Sac after moving there from an east coast beach town that I had taken all the petty cash in the house, thrown some clothes into one of the family cars and headed into the rising moon. The end result from this was that my folks went shopping for shrinks. The one we found was supposed to be good with teenagers. He suggested hospitalization for me. So I voluntarily go to a private facility (which was the top 2 floors of a regular hospital rather than some shady acres retreat). Fortunately we had money and insurance so I didn't have to go to state mental health under Reagan who was busy dismantling California's mental health system. Details of this period aren't important here, but a few cogent points: because of my medical family, I had learned quite a lot about various drugs. I'm no psychopharmacologist, but for a layman I know quite a bit. I was very anti-drug at the time and told the shrink I wouldn't take them. He was ok with that and we just did individual and group talk therapy. Many if not most of my fellow nutcases were on benzos or barbiturates or hypnotics or soporifics or something. These people were often walking zombies. Second, this facility had a shock treatment room. I saw people both before and after courses of treatment. Frankly it was pretty scary. The upshot of all this is that the anti psych stuff, cchr and the like were right in my wheelhouse and helped pin me to the cult for years. I personally took no psych drugs nor had shock treatment.

So, finally, my cutie-pie public reg became a body reg and she was successful. Since I had been making more money, I had some and bought Student Hat, HSDC and a Mark V. All tolled was about $1000! Hard to believe how inexpensive it was back in '75. My plan was to do the training route and co-audit. Student Hat went great and I was making even more money and was digging it all. We were young and vigorous and becoming more dedicated. This was COSMOD, remember. Outside the Sea Org, we were the elite of scn. We were the shit and we knew it and so did everyone else in scn. We were and still are the only mission known widely by its acronym. I finished SH and onto HSDC. Still winning big.

 

[Smurf]

What a nutjob she was. Knew her in the SO. She was CO AOLA for a while.

Are you referring to Susan? She claims Jeff Cota abused her when she was pregnant & ill.

http://www.lermanet.com/barwell/susan-dearing-declaration.txt

Check out who's on the current Board for the Interfaith Council in Greater Sacramento:

Board members for 2014-2015:

* Jeff Cota, Church of Scientology
* Monty Johnson, Sacramento Valley Family Church (Unification) - Moonies

http://sacramentointerfaith.org/about-us

 

[SPsince83]

Are you referring to Susan? She claims Jeff Cota abused her when she was pregnant & ill.

http://www.lermanet.com/barwell/susan-dearing-declaration.txt

Check out who's on the current Board for the Interfaith Council in Greater Sacramento:

Board members for 2014-2015:

* Jeff Cota, Church of Scientology
* Monty Johnson, Sacramento Valley Family Church (Unification) - Moonies

http://sacramentointerfaith.org/about-us

Not Suzette. She is referring to Regina Caldwell/Cota/Michel who was a COSMOD ED in Sac and SF before going to AOLA. I knew and worked with her. Asshole. For sure.

 

[Lulu Belle]

Not Suzette. She is referring to Regina Caldwell/Cota/Michel who was a COSMOD ED in Sac and SF before going to AOLA. I knew and worked with her. Asshole. For sure.

Just an absolutely crazy person.

She made the staff's life a living hell when she was the CO AOLA.

 

[SPsince83]

Just an absolutely crazy person.

She made the staff's life a living hell when she was the CO AOLA.

I see you too have been touched by the noodly appendage of Our Bowlopisketty. Prove he doesn't exist, bitches!

 

[Lulu Belle]

I see you too have been touched by the noodly appendage of Our Bowlopisketty. Prove he doesn't exist, bitches!

I'm a recently converted Pastafarian.

 

[JustSheila]

I see you too have been touched by the noodly appendage of Our Bowlopisketty. Prove he doesn't exist, bitches!

I'm a recently converted Pastafarian.

Thanks, guys. I needed that. Had my feathers ruffled up a bit.

BTW, LuluBelle, when was Reggie Caldwell C/O AOLA? How long did it last?

 

[SPsince83]

I'm a recently converted Pastafarian.

Rasta pasta is VERY pleasing to Our Sauciness! He has been known to bestow ot mmmdccxxxviii on newbies who provide a plate of such to his high priests. Oh, yeah, I'm a high priest. Hook me up

 

[Adam7986]

Thanks man. Sorry for your loss.

Thank you. Watching the way my dad acted in the wake of his sister's death was telling. She had strayed from the church in her final years of life. I had decided to figure out a way to contact her so I could leave too. My dad and mom had unceremoniously ejected her from our household. I didn't know her number or anything, but I was going to dig through my dad's things so I could find it. Then we got the news. It was heartbreaking enough to lose her, but then to watch my dad shit all over her memory saying she deserved to die for betraying the church. It was horrific. He was trying to find any money he could from her and take over as many possessions as possible. She was like a second mother to me and this is how he treated her. It was that time that I realized two things, (a) I had no way out other than to risk everything, and (b) my dad would eventually think of me the same way. I realized at that moment, too, that my dad and mom never loved me, because a parent's love is supposed to be unconditional, and so is a siblings. But everything is conditional in Scientology.