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Arcangel

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Seriously, what's there to "save" me from? You stated something that in our community of "being saved" and/or "cured". Do you seriously think in today's day and age a confident gay man or woman would walk into an org to "find a cure" or anything relevant? That's the meaning of the comment.

I've viewed many anon protests and find it hilarious. It has no relevance in the "real world".

I'm all for here in America the 1st Amendment since it is our right but standing around in a Guy Fawkes mask most of my friends who do the Pride circuit would ask "what's they group with the V For Vendetta get up"?
 
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themadhair

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Arcangel said:
I'm all for here in America the 1st Amendment since it is our right but standing around in a Guy Fawkes mask most of my friends who do the Pride circuit would ask "what's they group with the V For Vendetta get up"?
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Actual pride events, such as San Diego, show you to be wrong. More assumptions....
 
byte301

byte301

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Arcangel said:
Seriously, what's there to "save" me from? You stated something that in our community of "being saved" and/or "cured". Do you seriously think in today's day and age a confident gay man or woman would walk into an org to "find a cure" or anything relevant? That's the meaning of the comment.

I've viewed many anon protests and find it hilarious. It has no relevance in the "real world".

I'm all for here in America the 1st Amendment since it is our right but standing around in a Guy Fawkes mask most of my friends who do the Pride circuit would ask "what's they group with the V For Vendetta get up"?
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Give us your defintion of the REAL world.

I find YOU have no relevance on this board.
 
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Arcangel

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Mistaken assumptions that gays can be "cured" and it's a forefront of our community? No assumption I have yet to meet any gay that believes that they will be cured of being gay. I sure as hell I won't be. So, missing your point.

You state I do not know what I'm speaking about in stating that Scn is a cult? That's a proven FACT. Anon is a splitter protest group of said CULT. What are they doing financially supportive of the gay community, programs, services or HIV? FINANCIAL. 90% of groups who march or table have to pay for the space, yes, even in San Diego. I know, because I know their host committee. Shall I ask them about the donation Anon made to the committee or other community entities?

You ask about the support and such of the participants. Most volunteer, give money, mentor or work for or actively participate in the community. I've asked and you seem to have issue with basic english, I've not asked about lgbt Anon invididuals but Anon as an organization. Most that marshall, walk the parade or man the tables are active in the community. That's what I'm asking to which you seem to have a misunderstanding.

Yes, I've watched the videos and it's some of the best comedy I've ever witnessed. A splinter of a cult protesting LHR and that nonsense is not relevent. Stand outside an org for an afternoon speaking drivel.

Get a life.
 
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Arcangel

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What "assumption" do I have?

They were rejected on the day before for the Belfast Pride Parade. That's the absolute. They gave VERY valid reasons meant to and by the committee.

I would be very shocked if the Pride Committee didn't have an office, phone number or email.

What I have yet to see is a follow up call mentioned or a visit to the office. Only waiting for volunteers to reply, I'd hate to see what these folks do for a living. I work in events and if I don't hear from entities that I wish to participate in I follow up or goto the office.

Generally, with most Pride's, you can walk up to the Marshall's and ask for entry. Seeing that the event is occurring now I'm sure we won't have a response to that until later after the event. I've yet to see them not allow for an oversight if you bring the paperwork or speak to the leaders in charge.

How can we question and whine when an organization made a decision. Esp when there's no relevance to the situation.
 
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themadhair

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Arcangel said:
What purpose or relevance does a splinter protest group of a cult have at a gay pride event?
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Because said participants are either gay themselves, or otherwise extremely supportive of LGBT issues. In other words, they would be participating for exactly the same reasons pretty much any other group would be participating.

This has been re-iterated quite a few times now. Yet, it still seems to escape you.
 
byte301

byte301

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Arcangel said:
I have.

What purpose or relevance does a splinter protest group of a cult have at a gay pride event?
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Why the hell do you keep saying that? Anonymous isn't a splinter group of the cult.

I'm going to make an assumption here myself...you don't have a clue in hell what you're talking about or you're just dumber then a box of rocks.
 
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Arcangel

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So, if not Scn, LRH, SO or other what does Anon protest and where at?
Anon came out of those that have left or dislike the practices of the CoS. Am I incorrect?

If you wish to protest something for the glbt community I can give you a giant list.
 
byte301

byte301

Crusader
Arcangel said:
So, if not Scn, LRH, SO or other what does Anon protest and where at?
Anon came out of those that have left or dislike the practices of the CoS. Am I incorrect?

If you wish to protest something for the glbt community I can give you a giant list.
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YES, YOU ARE INCORRECT!`

Go do some fucking research before you post a bunch of crap. Kay?
 
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Zinjifar

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Arc, 'anon' as you know it may be a 'splinter' of something, but, it's certainly not Scientology, Scientology protest or any relation to ex-scientologists. Except that after some hiccups, those anonymous protesting Scientology have joined with exes and exes have 'joined' with anon (whatever 'joining' means here.)

But, even pre-anon Scientology protest was never any kind of 'splinter' of Scientology or Scientology exes.

So, yes, you have some misconceptions.

I'll admit, I'm not too surprised at the rejection by some 'political' Irish Gays of any official participation of 'anons' in their parade, but, there so seem to be some misconceptions there too, especially the fear that it might cause 'offense' to a 'religion'.

Speaking personally, Mark Bunker, Barbara Graham and I participated in the Gay Pride party (not the parade; in San Diego) for XenuTV back in 1999 and unfortunately the footage was never released. A shame, since it was very good and we had a great time. Including some very interesting interviews with gay Ex Sea Org members who had their own stories to tell.

Scientology *is* anti-Gay, no matter how you cut it and it's ignorant of you (and the Belfast parade organizers) to miss that, whether they felt their 'political message' watered down or not.

Anyway; Exes are not Anon; Anons are not Exes and neither is the total of people in public opposition to the 'Church' of Scientology.

Zinj
 
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He-man

He-man

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Weird message you got back, if you´r denied, whe talk of training or did I miss something?

Out of curiosity, is the pride festival still controversial in Ireland?
 
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