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Belgium prosecuting Scientology

Discussion in 'France and Belgium' started by TrevAnon, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    My bolding above. I wonder how many countries are NOW comparing notes and tracking the movement of extorted monies and suitcase runners by slappy dictators.

    Oh and Denise did you tell them to keep their documents in titanium vaults with Thetan detectors installed? . Seems other European countries had trouble regarding that in the past.
  2. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    Here is a Belgian television report in French with English subtitles added. The original report aired on December 28, 2012 on the RTBF network.

    Source: Des poursuites contre la scientologie


    December 28, 2012

    Anchorman: The Church of Scientology is facing prosecution. The Belgian branch of this organization, which is considered sectarian in Belgium, has been criminally indicted. The church is accused of fraud and the illegal practice of medicine. It is explicitly suspected of being a criminal organization. Quentin Warlop reports.

    Journalist (Quentin Warlop): The Church of Scientology of Belgium is now facing judicial prosecution following an investigation concerning the Belgian branch of this American organization and two of its\Ntop officials. The accusations are clear: Illegal practice of the art of healing, fraud, extortion, forgery and use of false documents, breach of privacy, and being a criminal organization.

    In reality, all began in 2008. A complaint was filed. Judge Michel Claise headed the investigation, and raids were conducted in April 2008.

    The complaint alleged that the Church of Scientology offered false employment contracts. At that time, Chadia was unemployed\Nand was searching for a job. She answered a want ad, convinced that it was for a paying job. She was soon disillusioned.

    Want ad: "Non-profit association seeks admin assistant; training provided, no experience required.

    Chadia Moussaoui They talked instead about becoming a member, adopting their way of seeing things, etc. I can't repeat it by heart. I read it in 30 seconds. Instead, it was a contract, I read: "from 2 and a half to 5 years" for becoming a member of the Church of Scientology.

    Journalist: The accusations are specific. But the Church of Scientology's European office is projecting an image of serenity.

    Agnès Bron: Attacks against religion have existed for a very, very long time, except that they used to cast us into the lions' den. Today, they haul us into courts of law. That's the only difference.

    Journalist: Except that Scientology is not\Nconsidered a religion in Belgium and remains a controversial organization in this country.

    Alain Stoffen knows it well. He is a piano teacher who used to be a Scientologist, but he now denounces its methods.

    Alain Stoffen: I was invited to Copenhagen for counseling that would guarantee the growth of my creativity. Without my realizing it, I underwent a process of depersonalization and destructuring that, as I wrote in my book, turned me into a consenting victim of my own mental rape. When I left for Copenhagen, I was doing really well. I was in top shape. When I returned 5 weeks later, I was completely destroyed.

    Journalist: In March 2013, the case will be introduced before the Council Chamber. The prosecutor's office is seeking to have the persons indicted in this case tried in a correctional court.
  3. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    This thread is now linked from front page of
  4. Albion

    Albion Patron with Honors

    Just posted a report at Infinite Complacency.

    Thanks once again to mnql1 for the invaluable media trawl.

    Federal prosecutors in Belgium have charged Scientology's
    Belgian operation and two leading executives with fraud and
    extortion among other offences. And it looks like they have
    learned from the Paris convictions.

    Jonny Jacobsen
  5. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Story is being picked up by other news organizations


    Belgium's public prosecutors have decided to prosecute the Church of Scientology in Belgium as a criminal organisation.

    Belgian media reports Friday said the organisation and several of its members face charges of extortion, fraud, and illegal practice of medicine.

    The Atlantic Wire and Huffington Post are also covering it.
  6. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    The judge who investigated this case, Michel Claise, specializes in white collar crime.


    Born in 1956, Michel Claise was a lawyer for twenty years, and he is also the author of six novels (in French):

    Salle des pas perdus, 2006 Faux et usages de faux, 2008 Le forain, 2008
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    Les années paix, 2010 Souvenirs du rif, 2011 Larmes du crime, 2011
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    His first novel, Salle des pas perdus ("The Concourse"), was published in 2006 and is about Belgium during World War II. In 2010, he published a sequel set in post-war era Belgium, Les années paix ("The Peace Years"). His 2008 novel Le forain ("The Carny") exposes various fraud schemes and depicts the daily realities of a police fraud squad saddled with a lack of resources. Descriptions of this detective thriller say that it successfully underscores the scope of financial fraud and the lack of general awareness about its dramatic impact on society.

    References: Claise Michel.pdf
  7. secretiveoldfag

    secretiveoldfag Silver Meritorious Patron

    This is where there could be real progress in 2013 IMO. It must happen sometime. :yes: The Belgians evidently realise that what is true for Belgium is true for every other legal system in the civilised world. If governments can get together at the level of the EU that could be the end of Scientology in Europe. At least they might begin to shorten the process between gathering evidence and court hearings by referring to previous cases.

    As the cult itself makes quite clear, it must persevere with the criminal activity exactly as laid down by LRH.

    And once again it has done CoS no good at all to embrace local politicians. I believe the Vlaamse Belang (a neo-fascist party) has not done well in recent elections and the political fortunes of the cult have no doubt gone down with it.

    PS If Scientology HQ has moved from Brussels to Mecheln, as I think I read somewhere here, what is the building at 100-103 Boulevard Waterloo, Brussels? It is near the Palais de Justice and so handy for court hearings but otherwise rather isolated on the inner ring road, very little pedestrian traffic. Google call it an Information Centre for Scientology.

    They no doubt imagine it is useful to have a propaganda centre near the seat of power (as they now also have in Washington) but it equally opens them up to a lot of unfriendly scrutiny.
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2012
  8. Albion

    Albion Patron with Honors

    Have updated the piece at Infinite Complacency with a reply
    I received from Arnaud Palisson to my email asking him which
    case he offered advice on.
  9. Purple Rain

    Purple Rain Crusader

    Compare this Belgian response to a complaint over a fraudulent job advertisement with the Australian Fair Work Ombudsman's response to a minor required to work 72 hours and scrub dumpsters with a toothbrush at two in the morning. Just sayin'....

    Edit: (Although to be fair the Australian Parliament is in the process of changing the labour laws)
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2012
  10. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    Translation of a French article posted on December 29, 2012 on the website of La Libre Belgique:
    L’étau se resserre sur la Scientologie
  11. secretiveoldfag

    secretiveoldfag Silver Meritorious Patron

    With charges like these the Prosecutor doesn't need to mention cults.

    And the Co$ spokesperson is lying.
  12. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    Losing faith? Belgium to charge Church of Scientology with fraud and extortion - reports

    After a long lasting legal battle Belgium prosecutors demand to label the Church of Scientology as a criminal organization and charge it and its leaders with extortion, fraud, privacy breaches, and the illegal practice of medicine.

    The subpoenas have been sent to the scientologists, the local financial newspaper De Tijd reported.

    The charges against the Church of Scientology stem from employment contracts issued to recruit volunteers and members allegedly breaching the country's strict employment laws. In Belgium as in some other countries Scientology is not recognized as a faith.

    In 2008 the Belgium Labor Mediation Service complained about number of labor contracts, prompting an investigation.

    A judge then ordered raids on Scientology premises where police allegedly “managed to seize a wealth of evidence,” that the organization had spied on and extorted money from its members, the Flanders News reported.

    Belgian authorities have been legally battling Scientologists since 2007, when the country tried to label the movement as a cult. Around the same time Belgian prosecutors ruled that the Belgian Church of Scientology, plus Scientology's Office of Human Rights and their 12 members, should be charged with extortion, fraud, organized crime, illegal medical practice.

    They were accused of practicing medicine without a license and violating privacy laws.

    ( full: )



    Federal public prosecutors in Belgium will institute legal proceedings against the church of Scientology in that country and seek to recognize it as a criminal organization.
  13. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    Translation of a French article posted on December 29, 2012 on the RTL television website:
    Poursuivie par le parquet, l'Eglise de Scientologie est "indignée"
  14. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    I always laugh at these wild jokes about the scientology presence. 157 countries - that is all but 9 in the world.
  15. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    Well, you obviously have MUs on the words "presence", "countries", and "world". Clear them up and you'll see that the CoS is being...ahem...truthful. :yes:

  16. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Anybody care for some Double Belgian Chocolate Truffle Fudge Caek? :coolwink:

  17. TrevAnon

    TrevAnon Big List researcher

    In the paper De Standaard Belgian COS responds with the yadayada one could have expected:
  18. Petey C

    Petey C Silver Meritorious Patron

    Today's The Age (Melbourne) also has a short par about this suit (which unfortunately is not on The Age's website). The story's starting to spread.

    I particularly like the way Cruise is reported to be the leader of the organisation. I don't think DM will stand for that for too long.
  19. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    Oh I do like that! :biggrin:
  20. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    Belgium Aims to Take Down Scientology

    Scientologists may soon be facing their most challenging court case yet. After a years long legal battle, federal prosecutors in Belgium now believe that their investigation is complete enough to charge the Church of Scientology and its leaders as a criminal organization on charges of extortion, fraud, privacy breaches, and the illegal practice of medicine.

    Flanders News reports that the decision "follows years of investigation that was triggered by a complaint by the Labour Mediation Service in the Brussels Region. Labour mediators were unhappy with a number of labour contracts."

    The Belgian newspaper added:

    "The matter ended up on the desk of examining magistrate Michel Claise, who ordered raids on Church of Scientology premises in 2008. During the raids police managed to seize a wealth of evidence."

    Two Belgian newspapers, De Tijd and L'Echo, are also reporting that the Belgian federal attorney is now seeking prosecution.

    According to multiple reports, the Belgian government will not charge Scientology for being a cult. Instead, they are focusing on prosecuting it as a criminal organization, which is a rather new twist. Most of the groups court battles to date have focused on establishing its legitimacy as a religion.

    Belgian authorities have been battling with Scientologists since 2007, when the government tried to label the group with a cult status.

    The Church of Scientology's European headquarters are located in Brussels, so any ban in Belgium could be devastating to the group.


    Belgium prosecutor's office accuses Church of Scientology of being "a criminal organization"

    A news report from a Belgium television station (embedded below) says that the criminal charges have been brought by the Belgium Federal Prosecutor's Office. The prosecutor's office accuses the Church and two of its senior executives of "the illegal practice of the art of healing, fraud, extortion, forgery and use of false documents, beach of privacy, and being a criminal organization."