Bill Frank's story about blackmail

Infinite

Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
. . . <snip> . . . My question for the Independent Scientologist is, who will be the Keeper of the Files on you? Can you trust those people who organized, implemented and ran this system on you and other members for years? I applaud those who have left the Co$ and want to take down Miscavige for his crimes, but, realize that you have been warned.

QFT!!!

Thanks bts2free. Awesome post and, frankly, a bit worrying. Are these sorts of "crime" write ups now going on outside of the cult as well as inside?
 

Panda Termint

Cabal Of One
Scientologists have been known to use scientology. Hopefully, they recognise that such things as folders containing "crime write-ups" are a part of the operation they could easily dispense with but I wouldn't count on it.
Somewhere there's probably a folder with your name on it.
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
This is a really important thread. No matter how many times I read a particularly insightful post, and get something from it, sharing it becomes the key.
 

TR'SIN

Patron with Honors
Man alive - its like talking to an old friend. Thanks everyone for writing it down in one thread.

In memory of an old friend - I hope Jim Karnes is reading this wherever you are located these days.
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron
the Brainwashing manual written by LRH ??

Is there a copy of this anywhere

ah found part of it

http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/brainwashing-manual.htm

Did Hubbard not realsise the truth always comes out esp in an age of lightening fast communication.

was he just factoring in that 5x expansion would out create the scenario.

There is an apparent tracking spotlight on time as we move through it, as the past disappears from its light and those knowing the deception who "drop out"
of scientology at the back and the light dawns onto the unsuspecting new recruit drawn into the Maze and machine.


Its the george Orwells party line...1984
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
George Orwell

CofS is losing the control of information of the present and past.


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Terril park

Sponsor
Helluva Hoax.

There is nothing RELIGIOUS about the UGLY OVERWHELMING "Sec Checking". It is not done for Religious purposes at all. It is done for INTELLIGENCE reasons. It is often done on OSA and RTC orders.


More accurately it should be called Police Polygraphing.

The label behind the Emeter states that it is only for use for religious purposes by a Church of Scientology minister.

In complete violation of the Food and Drug Administration
the meter is used to TORTURE, INTROVERT, MIND [email protected]^CK
public and staff by many that are NOT ordained ministers
i.e. RTC and OSA sec checkers, and others who use the meter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-meter

+++++Gang Bang sec checking, is when 3 -5 staff members yell at you for your CRIMES while you hold the cans.

++++You can be hauled out of bed in the early hours of the morning as I was, and sec checked unmercifully ~~


+++++"NOT auditing you" R-factor can be Retro-active

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In my 6 months of pure hell at INT BASE, I was summoned to Qual from the Carpentry shop where I was on the "decks" doing heavy manual labor. A surge of happiness welled up in me. I thought I would be permitted to attest and leave the base. I had already been through 60 days up there.

In Qual, I was asked to pick up the cans.

"This is the R-factor from the CS. You were previously given a forgiveness for your overts. This is now canceled.
Anything you previously said in your confessionals, and anything you will futuristically say in your confessionals will be used in a forthcoming Committee of Evidence"

"You may put the cans down."

It was a sledgehammer.
It meant I was not going to escape INT BASE.
My car keys had been confiscated.
I felt I had no way out.​

Dear Karen,
I applaud your extremely excellent efforts to expose the crimes of COS and its leader. :)

However their is another aspect.

I've sometimes commented over the years about my charmed life. Was in
COS from 1965 - 1991 It was only my last cock up CCRD when I forced the
C/S to agree I was clear,thenwas given an A-J check and a PDH check,
that made me decide to not go back.

During this cycle I was often missing sessions because I was ext or persistent F/N. This was because I had just had some of the best results
ever on a self elected FPRD. Where I was also missing sessions for the same reason. This was handled by the auditor asking if I was witholding success stories. So I wrote some up every day and they were SPECTACULAR!

This CCRD was the most traumatic of several lifetimes, but I won that particular war against the C/S described as the best St Hill ever had.
perhaps they forgot LRH?

I was never SO. Fortunately when I tried to join in circa 1966 On a sec check I commented that democracy was the worst form of government in that the common denominator, Bank, ruled. Yeah, back then I in my naivety thought that the reason I said that, KSW1, was quite valid. Lol!

During my staff tenure I was sent to Folo to recieve the efforts of the
new " Ethics Specialist Course". Wasn't doing brilliantly on post at the time, but not disastrously iether. I had no problems with that, Iwas the E/O and had sort of created a similar program stongly based on study tech, my main area of strength. I liked that area. Dida few days of O/W write ups on first three dynamics, then some false data stripping. Very nice results.

After coming back from OEC/FEBC course in around 1982 I for various reasons felt I could not continue as a staff member. Because losing me was serious downstats Igot priority handling. Out int was irrelevant, as were some other actions Ican't recall details of. I was then sent to St Hill for sec checking. Joburg and several others. Good personal result. My own consideration of an Ep is that I started to tease the auditor or O/W write up
senior. I then continued on staff unpaid for 3 months as some sort of amends.

This ethics and sec check tech is important and workable. But LRH himself
said it was a limited theory.

Given in a safe environment for the benefit of the recipient it can be good stuff.

For me the most despicable area of COS activity is the spiritual rape
from the misuse of this tech. It WAY is more important than bad living conditions and food.

Its implantation. It is abominable.

Thank you Karen for broadening our knowledge of this.
 
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RogerB

Crusader
For what it's worth.....Peter Sparshott. Now there was a decent guy. I owe him a lot. He was always approachable, always helpful. Wrote a CS for me once for which I will be eternally grateful (I will write a story about that one one day soon).

Yes, I knew Peter in St Hill late '70's . . . you are right Mystery. Pete was a gentleman and most decent fellow of the highest order.

I'm sorry to hear he's passed on . . . seems he was a little bit young for that. He actually deserved a long and happy life for he did a lot of good for others :yes:

Yes, I'm actually sad as I write this for I wished more for him than a short life.

Rog
 

RogerB

Crusader
For those who missed my write-up on this subject, I'll leave it here:

http://www.webquake.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?p=378454&sid=86f0c3eec57b39b8b111aec8a80cb539#p378454

What Really Goes on Behind the Scenes

I was an MAA at the Int base, including Chief MAA for several years between 1990-2000. I was also the De-PTSer for the entire base for a couple of those years in Qual Gold. I was fully hatted as an MAA and an Ethics Specialist. I was trained to do metered Ethics interviews, Ethics E-Meter Checks, Rollbacks, Sec Checks and PTS Interviews. My Full Hat even required me to study the Brainwashing manual written by LRH as well as sections of Sun Tsu’s Art of War. Also required to study and put into effect the IG MAA program written by Gary Conley and approved by LRH, including LRH notes and signature in handwriting on the program original copies. I was a member of the Int Base Perimiter Council for several years and so am fully aware and participated in what goes on behind the scenes while all others feel that they are just going on with their own business or attempting to produce and comply.

Snipped . . . . .

Sincerely,
John Peeler

John,

This is one of the most important and informative documents I have read. Kudos to you, and thanks.

It's got me thinking that this is the kind of report that ought be in a sworn affidavit somewhere . . is it?

What do we need to do to make it so, so that it can be used by those who need it?

Rog
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron
Helluva Hoax.

There is nothing RELIGIOUS about the UGLY OVERWHELMING "Sec Checking". It is not done for Religious purposes at all. It is done for INTELLIGENCE reasons. It is often done on OSA and RTC orders.

More accurately it should be called Police Polygraphing.
It was a sledgehammer.
It meant I was not going to escape INT BASE.
My car keys had been confiscated.
I felt I had no way out.[/CENTER][/B]

HUBBARD/”BERIA”
Hypnosis is induced by acute fear.

They(?) discovered it could also be induced by shock of an emotional nature, and also by extreme privation, as well as by blows ... Belief is engendered by a certain amount of fear and terror from an authoritative level, and this will be followed by obedience...

This is a proven principle...

.The brainwashing manual. Hub(sigh)"beria" 1955
:Such a use of force is, itself, the essential ingredient of greatness...(sick)
 

Karen#1

Gold Meritorious Patron
It was only my last cock up CCRD when I forced the
C/S to agree I was clear,then was given an A-J check and a PDH check,
that made me decide to not go back.

Terril ~~

Every time I disagreed with my lockdown at INT BASE, every time I spoke up to security that I was being held against my will, every time I was in TOTAL DISAGREEMENT
...........

I had PDH checks. Pain Drugs Hypnosis means implanted as in Manchurian Candidate

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE
“Under the totalitarian regime in Russia those that objected to the program were by definition ‘mentally ill’ as only a person who was mentally ill would be against the people’s paradise.”


I did not agree therefore I must Psychiatric !:omg::omg::omg:

The fact that I had spent the previous 2 decades in the Church was not considered...

PDH Police polygraphing goes like this ~~

Have you been institutionalized and given hidden commands ?

Have had a sudden change of characteristic in your personality ?

Do you feel a compulsion to execute a command ?

Have you had electric Shock that you have not disclosed?


etc etc etc

++++++++++++ Now when you are "Sec Checked" over hunger and less sleep, the needle can go up to 6.0 and stick ! This means STILL NEEDLE ! This means psychiatric witholds

The big question is how and why was I foolish enough and moronic enough to suffer through this bullshit ?:angry:

The big question is why did I not report kidnap and held against will to Law Enforcement back then?

 

Terril park

Sponsor
Terril ~~

Every time I disagreed with my lockdown at INT BASE, every time I spoke up to security that I was being held against my will, every time I was in TOTAL DISAGREEMENT
...........

I had PDH checks. Pain Drugs Hypnosis means implanted as in Manchurian Candidate

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE
“Under the totalitarian regime in Russia those that objected to the program were by definition ‘mentally ill’ as only a person who was mentally ill would be against the people’s paradise.”


I did not agree therefore I must Psychiatric !:omg::omg::omg:

The fact that I had spent the previous 2 decades in the Church was not considered...

PDH Police polygraphing goes like this ~~

Have you been institutionalized and given hidden commands ?

Have had a sudden change of characteristic in your personality ?

Do you feel a compulsion to execute a command ?

Have you had electric Shock that you have not disclosed?


etc etc etc

++++++++++++ Now when you are "Sec Checked" over hunger and less sleep, the needle can go up to 6.0 and stick ! This means STILL NEEDLE ! This means psychiatric witholds

The big question is how and why was I foolish enough and moronic enough to suffer through this bullshit ?:angry:

The big question is why did I not report kidnap and held against will to Law Enforcement back then?


Oh! I've posted this a few times over the years but left it out here. The
important issue with this PDH check was that I when aged 3 was taken by my mum to a child psychologist. She was in difficult situation, my Dad had gone to Alaskan wilderness to find a fortune seeking gold, and my mum didn't
want to go live in a log cabin. So I expect in some form filling bullshit I said I'd seen a psyche when I was three. A non charged item and over and done with previously in auditing. I was naughty and lively and my mum had problems.

However having " won" the fight to have myself declared as natural clear,
possibly the last to do so in 1991, I then get the A-J check and then the PDH check. I commented to the auditor it had already been handled. Was told that I may have had PDH and couldn't recall it. Passed both of course, still
on persistent F/Ns from FPRD. And well... truth.

AGED 3 WITH MY MUM IN ATTENDANCE!!!!

It was clear to me that the C/S wanted to ARCX me and kick me out, probably to save stats. If I was illegal I couldn't be a bad stat. Or something like that.

Complete insanity to consider I was PDHed before book 1 was even written,
aged 3 with a mum in tow.

As a sort of data series grad I concluded the organisation was somewhat nuts and never darkened their doors again.

I was then a paying public, real eager to get onto OT levels. Thus I never had to endure the horrors you and others write of.

This sort of thing MUST be stopped.

I being somewhat of a pantywaist dilletante was always happy to just have fun and notworry about spiritual progress. Even so it was the most traumatic time I recall.

I escaped with my charmed life real easy. Saving those dedicated and idealistic people from a much worse fate is important to me.
 
For those who missed my write-up on this subject, I'll leave it here:

...

In light of the above remarks, I have posted a reference to it along with an excerpt to MR's blog. As of this posting it is 'awaiting moderation'.

Mark A. Baker

A copy of the MR's blog post ...
http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/david-miscavige-wants-to-be-like-mike/#comment-108697

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
In keeping with the ‘Co$ Threats Motif’ the foll owing is an excerpt from an highly informative post recently placed on esmb. The tenor of the post deals with institutional abuses of information as structured within the Co$ and its origins.

The original post is post #33 and can be read in full at …
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=543109#post543109

“… Around the same time, I was put on an RTC mission called the Int Data Base Mission where we went through every staff member’s Personnel, Ethics and PC Folders to input data following a checklist provided by RTC. Jesse Radstrom in RTC at that time was the Mission Ops, Theresa Laner and Hiro Kimoto the Mission I/C and 2nd. I was an inputter assigned to all of Exec Strata staff and several divisions of Gold, including HCO Gold and PDO. The checklist data input into a computer data base included all and any crimes or suppressive acts, the person’s sexual history as well as any sexual deviance as found in Life History write-ups, session KR’s or O/W’s. All of the person’s external contact information, i.e. family, close friends and all of the addresses and phone numbers where that info was available. We even went through all PC folders of all staff and entered pertinent data into the computer data base.

When this mission was completed, we had a full computerized data base of all kinds of incriminating or embarrassing information on all base staff. By the press of a few keys, David Miscavige, and all HCO’s on the base could pull up your name and have an “overview” of your personal and private information. Including who your connections were. Your “external influences.”

All MAA’s and I&R’s on the base used this data base regularly to keep tabs on people. The Ethics Admin in each HCO was responsible for updating the data base with reports that came in to HCO.

This data base was tied into the INCOMM mainframe and was supposed to be exported out to all org’s HCO’s. If it hasn’t been done yet, the framework is there for that to be implemented.

Both Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder are well aware of this data base, its purpose and contents. …”
 
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AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Mark,

Please link to the post or comment to a post to which you were replying when you submitted your comment.

There is no link until it is approved. It's on an old thread. I fear that Marty is not going to approve it. I think MArk did as well, which is why he posted his comment awaiting approval here.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
MESSAGE TO: BTS2FREE & KAREN

Those writeups that you posted on this thread are spectacularly valuable documents for those just beginning on the harrowing journey out of the cult. They are virtually impossible to ignore, much like the piercing decibels of a fire alarm that lets one know to get out of the burning building immediately!

They are compelling narratives that cut straight through to what is ACTUALLY happening behind the facade.

I have often considered the rather vast ocean of information (that exists on different forums, websites and books) detailing the shocking true story of Scientology. Intrepid readers who defy cult "You-read-it-you-die!" policies typically put their toe into the water just a little bit and then spend many weeks or months just wading, slack-jawed, thru the endless waves of factually shocking but illuminating information.

A dream scenario would be a well edited and indexed COMPILATION of this unwieldy database and reducing it down to assimilable, bite-sized chunks. Like, for example the TEN POINTS OF KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY HONEST for a wide range of topics.

The TEN BEST (most illustrative) documents/posts for each of those topics would be at one's fingertips, just a click away.

EXAMPLES: (each topic would have 10 links)

"What is really happening at Scientology International Headquarters?"
1. Musical Chairs link
2. John Peeler's link on MAAs, Perimeter Council et al
3. Jeff Hawkin's link on...
4. Mark Headley's link on...
5. etc....

"What is really going on with David Miscavige?"
1. St Pete Times link on beatings
2. Link on billionaire life style, cars, private jets, etc...
3. Link on COB's psychological torture and imprisonment of staff
4. Link on COB's stats
5. etc...

"What don't you know about Ron Hubbard?"
1. Link to Ron's bogus biographical claims
2. Link to Ron's lies about healing himself after the war
3. Link to Ron's secret control of Scn & appropriation of its money
4. Link to Ron's actual physical and mental health
5. Link to Ron's criminal fair game of Paulette Cooper
6. Link to Ron's criminal ops that sent Mary Sue to prison
7. etc...​

Back to what I was originally talking about....

John's and Karen's posts would definitely make it to the "Top Ten" on some of those topics.

Quite in addition to their extraordinary ability to communicate clearly and simply what happened, their former positions at the top of Int Mgt or Tech would make the revelations even more impactful for those who are just beginning to wake up out of a long slumber.

Thank you guys for the great and helpful posts!
 
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There is no link until it is approved. It's on an old thread. I fear that Marty is not going to approve it. I think MArk did as well, which is why he posted his comment awaiting approval here.

A. Actually the post was made to the wrong thread unintentionally. [Too many tabs were already opened. The wrong one was used. I left it at one copy as I don't want to 'spam' the board.]

B. The link that Sneaks asked for is there already, even in the part included in his post. [Right above the copy.]


Mark A. Baker
 
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TheSneakster

Guest
Mark,

Please link to the post or comment to a post to which you were replying when you submitted your comment.

There is no link until it is approved. It's on an old thread. I fear that Marty is not going to approve it. I think MArk did as well, which is why he posted his comment awaiting approval here.

AnonyMary,

Please re-read what I asked of Mark. I did not ask for a link to his as-yet unapproved comment.
 

Atalantan

Patron with Honors
My first experience with someone being involuntarily held in a Scientology organization was second hand and occured in 1971. I heard about it from a still upset - and very naive - (Class IV, these days it's called Class V) Org staff member (I was naive too) whom had encountered someone handcuffed to a large metal table in a part of the Org off-limits to the public.

In those days, being in any way "on lines," and - suddenly and visibly - deciding to leave the premises of an Org was taboo. Why? It was explained that people who wanted to leave were becoming the effect of their reactive minds and that it was compassionate to restrain them from leaving ("blowing").

Even auditing rooms were supposed to have the auditor seated nearer to the door in case the person decided to leave, so the auditor could stop the person from leaving.

One was supposed to handle the person attempting to (visibly and suddenly) leave, then - very slowly and when back in agreement with Scientology, or having completed the necessary paperwork - the person could leave.

Around the same time, there was also a minor PR flap around an incident where someone in the Org had suddenly "blown," and two staff members followed him out of the Org on to the street, and dragged him back into the Org. (Since the Org was in a large hotel - The Martinique Hotel in Manhattan - some "wogs" had complained to the hotel's management.) To our Scientological minds, this was an application of "8-C" or "good control." The person's reactive mind had forced him to blow, and Scientologists, connected to Source, the savior of the galaxy L. Ron Hubbard, etc. were applying the tech, and putting ethics in, by 8-Cing the down-stat back so that he could be saved from the dwindling spiral, and eventually travel up the Grade Chart to Total Freedom.

Ah, the good old days.

Yet in that same era, in 1972 a Detroit staff member unequivocably told me it was a High Crime to hold a person anywhere against his will.

Viva la Liberte.

I still believe this, and as for the rationalization that "people who wanted to leave were becoming the effect of their reactive minds and that it was compassionate to restrain them from leaving ("blowing")", it was a rationalization by the not-quite-bright then, and is still a rationalization now, and the situation is fully covered by the basic principle stated by LRH - "Whatever the pc is doing obsessively or compulsively, have him do it on a self-determined basis."

Even a halfwit ought to be able to see this means if someone wants to "blow", quickly and cheerfully show him the door .

"Humanity is a dim bulb."
 
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TheSneakster

Guest
A. Actually the post was made to the wrong thread unintentionally. [Too many tabs were already opened. The wrong one was used. I left it at one copy as I don't want to 'spam' the board.]

B. The link that Sneaks asked for is there already, even in the part included in his post. [Right above the copy.]


Mark A. Baker

OK, Thank you for clarifying.

I just could not believe you were submitting this information as a comment to a June 2010 article on Marty's Blog. Even if it passes moderation, nobody ever see it, unless they already know it is there. It might be disapproved for that reason alone, regardless of agreement or disagreement with the actual content. :eyeroll:

BTW, that material actually is relevant on the Scientology Inc Threatens Revenge on Paul Haggis thread and I can think of no reason why it should be disapproved there.
 
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