Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientology?

[ThetanExterior]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

The camera doesn't belong to the woman or her husband testing it?

But the point of the investigation is that no one knows who it belongs to and since it contains a picture of a woman and child then I'm surprised the cops don't get involved. Unless of course it is perfectly legal to take secret pictures like this.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

From the camera angle it does appear that the primary interest is in the activity of the occupants as opposed to the capture of license plate images but if the car pulled further forward or all the way into the garage then there would be a clear license plate image.

My guess is that the police already have a license plate from other images and know who these people are and it is an active investigation - need to know.

 

[Type4_PTS]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

From the camera angle it does appear that the primary interest is in the activity of the occupants as opposed to the capture of license plate images but if the car pulled further forward or all the way into the garage then there would be a clear license plate image.

My guess is that the police already have a license plate from other images and know who these people are and it is an active investigation - need to know.

It's possible that in the case of this mystery woman as well as Clay there are additional cameras capturing images from other angles as well.

If I were Clay I'd take Bruno on frequent walks within sight of his house to see if he can sniff out some additional cameras.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

It's possible that in the case of this mystery woman as well as Clay there are additional cameras capturing images from other angles as well.

If I were Clay I'd take Bruno on frequent walks within sight of his house to see if he can sniff out some additional cameras.

There is a time honored tried and true approach to this kind of thing - just post a bounty for hidden cameras.

Every kid in the neighborhood will be looking under every bush, in every birdhouse and around every manhole cover. Just tell them not to move it so you can see exactly where it is and where it is pointed.

 

[Scientology]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

The house has some very unusual details. After the garage comes a wall that has no visible roof, are there really many such houses in Clearwater Florida? Or somewhere nearby ... all the pics of the house shows this anomaly ... So

A Model of the house could look approx like this, with a window inside

And from above like this without a roof on the front wall


How many houses like this one could it be in Florida?

 

[Type4_PTS]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

How many houses like this one could it be in Florida?

I've seen a number of them like that in the Tampa Bay area.

 

[Scientology]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

I've seen a number of them like that in the Tampa Bay area.

Are you sure?
Please send me address or coordinates. Or even better take some pictures or a video if possible, if they look alike..

 

[Type4_PTS]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

Are you sure?
Please send me address or coordinates. Or even better take some pictures or a video if possible, if they look alike..

I've been to thousands of homes when doing some work in the Tampa Bay area, but don't recall the specific addresses for those homes I was at years ago.

Besides, what does it matter? Certainly it has no relevance to this thread.

 

[Scientology]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

I've been to thousands of homes when doing some work in the Tampa Bay area, but don't recall the specific addresses for those homes I was at years ago.

Besides, what does it matter? Certainly it has no relevance to this thread.

Does the density of similarity not matter? That was news to me! Thank you for reminding me. I Thought it was the only thing that matters to getting near the correlation this thread emanated from.Then what matters to matter? and how real is really reality in that mindset of bruno or any dogmatic dogma?

Background
Knowing the anatomy of houses without ability to picture it occurrence on a map appears somewhat selective. Having less of a value to answer the question -

Where is the density of your contribution?
I will stop here, maybe it is the Scientology super ego mindsest that just spreads this virus of knowing without ever having something to deliver. I for sure have engought of it.

In order of relevancy, would it be a good idea for you to shut up and read the density of relevancy before judging so heavenly? Or does it not fit in the thread, then what fits?

 

[Type4_PTS]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

The Daily Mail (UK) published an article today:

EXCLUSIVE: 'Be prepared to be amazed - this place is sick!' Bar owner who did a Facebook Live touring Tom Cruise's Florida penthouse claims Church of Scientology planted a camera to 'SPY' and 'intimidate' him after video went viral

• Clay Irwin, owner of The Lucky Anchor bar, in Clearwater, Florida, says he was invited by a construction worker to view Tom Cruise's unfinished penthouse
• Irwin did a Facebook Live of himself walking around the luxury condo with his dog Bruno
• In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, he claims Scientology honchos demanded he delete the video and began to 'intimidate' and 'spy on him'
• The penthouse includes a roof deck complete with a luxury 39ft infinity pool, solarium, hot tub and bar
• Irwin claims workers shared the floor plans with him which show a nine-car parking space along with a private car elevator
• Irwin said his Scientologist neighbors were friendly and baked cakes for him - but turned cold after the video went viral
• He even posed up with John Travolta and Kelly Preston for selfies​
• He claims he found a video camera on the lawn of Scientologist in his neighborhood pointing in his home

<snip>

Full Article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Cruise-flat-claims-Scientologists-spied.html

CoS tried to suppress Clay's video, ordering that he delete it, and now it's posted all over the net. They also tried to prevent him from doing interviews with local TV and newspapers. Now it's international news.

Guess they didn't learn from their past experience.

 

[Leland]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

Does the density of similarity not matter? That was news to me! Thank you for reminding me. I Thought it was the only thing that matters to getting near the correlation this thread emanated from.Then what matters to matter? and how real is really reality in that mindset of bruno or any dogmatic dogma?

Background
Knowing the anatomy of houses without ability to picture it occurrence on a map appears somewhat selective. Having less of a value to answer the question -

Where is the density of your contribution?
I will stop here, maybe it is the Scientology super ego mindsest that just spreads this virus of knowing without ever having something to deliver. I for sure have engought of it.

In order of relevancy, would it be a good idea for you to shut up and read the density of relevancy before judging so heavenly? Or does it not fit in the thread, then what fits?

WoW! You nailed it. That is certainly the house across the street from the mystery lady and child that were in the images of the hidden camera.

Why not post an address....?

Still don't know where this is.

With an address....owner of house across the street could easily be found....then perhaps the mystery lady and child informed that they were being spied upon.

 

[Leland]

Ok Found the house of the mystery lady and child. As seen in original post. OP

Have the address, owner's names.....and phone number.

Any suggestions on what to do?

If the Cult is spying on 2 locations....in Clearwater....I'd imagine it must be many more than that.

Edited:

Anyway, IMO she should be told that she was spied upon and photos taken. Just don't know if I should be the one to do it.

 

[Leland]

Re: Camera used to spy on the home of Clay Irwin in Clearwater, FL. Was it Scientolog

Does the density of similarity not matter? That was news to me! Thank you for reminding me. I Thought it was the only thing that matters to getting near the correlation this thread emanated from.Then what matters to matter? and how real is really reality in that mindset of bruno or any dogmatic dogma?

Background
Knowing the anatomy of houses without ability to picture it occurrence on a map appears somewhat selective. Having less of a value to answer the question -

Where is the density of your contribution?
I will stop here, maybe it is the Scientology super ego mindsest that just spreads this virus of knowing without ever having something to deliver. I for sure have engought of it.

In order of relevancy, would it be a good idea for you to shut up and read the density of relevancy before judging so heavenly? Or does it not fit in the thread, then what fits?

You made it so easy to find her house!

Thanks.

Have you done anymore research to find out who she is?

 

[Little David]

From Tony Ortega:

Note to the sleuths at ESMB

Last year, we worked with Clay Irwin to look into solving the mystery of who placed a spy camera outside his Clearwater home. On the camera, besides images of his own house, Clay also found numerous images of another house that the camera had been used to surveil. With some help from a clever Internet researcher we managed to figure out which house that was, and it led us to direct evidence that the private investigator using the camera had been employed by Wally Pope’s law firm — Scientology’s primary litigator in Florida. We reported this to Clay. However, we removed most of the photos of the secondary house from our website because they included images of people who were unrelated to the story and unrelated to Scientology.

We wanted you to know that Clay was apprised of the situation, and he is still considering his options about what to do with that information.

https://tonyortega.org/2018/08/30/k...ollywood-site-was-compromised-by-scientology/

 

[exbritscino]

If I found a spy camera trained on my house I'd overwrite the SD card with a load of porn films. Enjoy...............

 

[Leland]

From Tony Ortega:

Note to the sleuths at ESMB

Last year, we worked with Clay Irwin to look into solving the mystery of who placed a spy camera outside his Clearwater home. On the camera, besides images of his own house, Clay also found numerous images of another house that the camera had been used to surveil. With some help from a clever Internet researcher we managed to figure out which house that was, and it led us to direct evidence that the private investigator using the camera had been employed by Wally Pope’s law firm — Scientology’s primary litigator in Florida. We reported this to Clay. However, we removed most of the photos of the secondary house from our website because they included images of people who were unrelated to the story and unrelated to Scientology.

We wanted you to know that Clay was apprised of the situation, and he is still considering his options about what to do with that information.

https://tonyortega.org/2018/08/30/k...ollywood-site-was-compromised-by-scientology/

EXSB sleuths...

Thanks, But this still leaves a mystery as to how the mystery lady is involved....

Seems to me that SHE also has a right to know she was being secretly photographed and allow her to decide what to do about it also.

It appears to me her photos are completely unrelated to the Tavern Owner photos......

 

[Leland]

But, I certainly get that you are asking me to stay out of it....and that isn't a problem.

I appreciate the updated info.