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Not previously, but I took a look around. I don't know... I do use ionized salt, and take a multivitamin containing iodine (and there is no fluoride in the drinking water over here). I'm not sure I would muck around with high doses considering I have lithium-induced hypothyroidism, no symptoms but it shows up in tests (and this is the lithium - I was tested several times before being put on it, and the bipolar symptoms appeared some 25 years before the thyroid acted up).
I might add that I have tried omega-3 supplements for at least a year, plus I eat salmon and mackerel. I know some people swear by it, while others complain of negative mood effects. Never seemed to make the slightest bit of difference to me.
But thank you for the idea!
Yeah, ya all, have fun with the conspiracy theory that "big pharma" could be secretly supporting CCHR ... because it "could be", and because it makes some sense. Yeah, could be. So, everybody, listen up, Arnie has pulled something out of his ass that could be. What an excellent reason to assume the worst case. So much for critical thinking. Anybody who feels like delving into that, please check all the likely and unlikely "why" and "why not", using critical thinking, - that's all I recommend. Look at the "pros" and "cons". Not only check the "why" and explore all the "pros", no matter how unlikely, just because that's the more thrilling thing, and keeps producing the more perverse scenarios. For example: how big is CCHR, what are they doing, what do they achieve, and how could big drug companies secretly support it. Money? People? I'm just saying. Who the fuck has ever heard of CCHR? That obscure bird shit of a Co$ front group, mainly serving as a propaganda producer for Co$-members, should interest big drug companies, to use it for some twisted propaganda scheme? Is that likely? Would that be effective, by any means? Would that make sense for the efficiency-obsessed people running a big drug company? So, what's the reality behind that? Really, if fathoming the details of that is entertaining for somebody, go have fun. Just try not to lose contact with reality. Balance the factors against each other, and take a deep breath from time to time, and ask yourself whether you keep finding correlations and bits of evidence, or whether you merely keep spinning colorful tales - even when they could, theoretically, be possible. Just as the plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence", the plural of "tale" is not "research" but "sequel". So to say.
No doubt that there are horror stories that can be told from peoples experiences with psychology and psychiatry, just as within the field of medicine as well.
A good friend of mine lost his Aunt several years ago when she was rushed to the ER after falling and was administered a drug she was allergic to, despite the fact that she was wearing a medical alert bracelet indicating what she was allergic to.
Unfortunately, these types of things happen every day due to human error. It's far from a perfect system. But still, if you're in a serious, life-threatening car accident your best chances of survival are getting a paramedic out to you, and then getting rushed to the hospital. Contrary to what Tom Cruise would tell you, scientologists aren't the only ones who can help.
The problem with CoS is that they install a phobia by ONLY telling the horror stories. They carefully filter all the news about peoples experiences from seeing a Psych to remove all the positive experiences where peoples lives were saved by going to see a psychologist or psychiatrist and/or just had their issues effectively resolved which significantly improved their life.
You can do this with ANY field. As an example, you can do it with plumbers. Carefully control all the information that people receive about plumbers, only giving them info about horror stories. "I called a plumber to fix a leak in my toilet and they caused a flood in my home ruining my carpet!" If you only provided that type of info and filtered out any positive info than people would be terrified to call a plumber and would never consider it no matter how urgent the need.
Before you start taking pot shots at people without doing the proper research because you don't like them, you should read this thread from years ago that shows there is a Scientology connection to pharmaceuticals.
You should apologize.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...d-trade-marks-for-drugs&highlight=trade marks
If I were a big drug company I might support CCHR...because of Lenin's advice re political opponents . . . "
Before you start taking pot shots at people without doing the proper research because you don't like them, you should read this thread from years ago that shows there is a Scientology connection to pharmaceuticals.
You should apologize.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...d-trade-marks-for-drugs&highlight=trade marks
There are many non-scientologists including some psychologists and psychiatrists who are concerned about the overuse of psychiatric drugs, and imo have legitimate concerns.
In my view, they're necessary in some situations, have helped many people, and can be lifesaving.
But the side effects can be awful in some of these drugs, so I prefer that other approaches are tried first IF it's not going to put the patient (or others) at risk.
The field of psychiatry and psychology are just like any other fields; there are great practitioners and others who should not be allowed to have a license. There are many who genuinely care about their patients and others who just go through the motions so they can get paid.
Given the stakes involved when entrusting your mental health with a practitioner I would advise shopping for one carefully, not just calling the first one you come across in the phone book.
Whenever I read something like this, I always want to ask, "and what problem caused the low serotonin to begin with?" Makes me wonder if low serotonin (or whatever) is merely the symptom of a deeper cause.Many "psych drugs" don't mask a problem, they are actually altering problematic brain chemistry and fixing the problem. Low serotonin levels for example, meds can help increase or decrease the brain's uptake receptors to these chemicals and it can make a significant difference to people suffering from depression. This is not masking it, it's actually making effective changes to your brain's chemistry to improve your feeling of well being.
That reminds me of when I went to a doctor years ago. I said "I think I have a bacterial infection and am requesting an antibiotic". Note I said "I think" not "I am certain".The pharmaceutical industry is the top spender on U.S. lobbying efforts. Their salesmen pitch their wares directly to medical schools and doctor's offices. With Direct-to-Consumer Pharmaceutical Advertising, this industry also encourages patients to ask their doctor for drugs before the patient has even been diagnosed.
I myself am on the "Mrs. Spratt" diet -- I don't watch my fat intake at all.Christ, even look at the damage their touted as biggest seller "Lipitor" does to your body and how they covered up its damaging effects on the bio-active unbiquinol enzyme in your body with resultant side effects . . . . and this all based on the proven, false proposition that "high fat diets" and "high cholesterol" are the cause of "heart disease." Lipitor is actually being sold to treat something that does not need any "treatment," is causing damage to those taking it and is keeping good science from being recognized.
I myself am on the "Mrs. Spratt" diet -- I don't watch my fat intake at all.
The body craves fat to such a degree that if you eat low-fat food, you'll just wind up eating more of it.
There are three ways to make diet food:
(1) Low-fat food has SUGAR added to it to make it palatable.
(2) Low-carb food has FAT added to it to make it tasty.
(3) Food can be made that is both low-fat and low-carb but it invariably tastes like sawdust.
While cutting down on fat is self-defeating, cutting down on sugar is smart -- because sugar stimulates the appetite, is easily converted to fat in the body, and slows down the burning of fat that's already stored.
Finally, if the diet people are so smart, where are all the skinny people that got that way because of following the recommended diets? They have a "here are the results" history that is nearly as bad as Scientology's.
Helena
That reminds me of when I went to a doctor years ago. I said "I think I have a bacterial infection and am requesting an antibiotic". Note I said "I think" not "I am certain".
He was upset. His attitude was HE was the doctor and HE will do the diagnosing, thank you. He asked me some questions and I answered them truthfully.
I DO know the difference between bacterial symptoms and just plain stomach pain, and because of that, thought it likely that I DID have a bacterial infection. When he heard my answers, he had to agree with me (and his arrogance was suddenly gone). I got my antibiotic.
From this I learned that doctors don't like SOLUTIONS, only PROBLEMS. Tell them your problem and if they happen to agree with your own opinion, fine.
My latest trip to a doctor involved occaisional belly pain. It was only after he told me what he thought it was that I told him I thought the same thing.
I no longer trust doctors. I'd much prefer a system where you just say what you want and you get it (narcotics excepted, of course).
The peer-reviewed scientific evidence supports the following findings:
3. Statin-induced decreases in CoQ10 are more than just hypothetical drug-nutrient interactions.
Good evidence exists of significant CoQ10 depletion in humans and animals during statin
therapy.
4. Scientific evidence confirms the existence of detrimental cardiac consequences from statin induced
CoQ 10 deficiencies in man and animals.
5. Statin-induced CoQlo deficiency is dose related and the clinical consequences are notable
most in the elderly and in settings of pre-existing congestive heart failure (CHF).
6. Statin-induced CoQ 1O deficiency can be completely reversed by supplemental CoQ10.
7. Supplemental CoQ10 is safe and has no adverse effect on statin cholesterol-lowering or on
statin anti-inflammatory effects.
8. We are in the midst of a congestive heart failure epidemic in the United States.
Approximately 4.8 millions Americans are diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Half of
those patients will die within 5 years. Each year, there are an estimated 400,000 new cases of
CHF (Congestive Heart Failure Data Fact Sheet,
www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/heart/other). Although the causes of this epidemic are
unknown, statin-induced CoQ10 deficiency has not been excluded as a possible contributing
factor.
Salt is a poor delivery system for Iodine. Bread bakers do not use Iodine in America because it makes bread spoil faster.
I will send you a link on Iodine research done by a doctor.
Examiner releases raw audio interview on YouTube with medical director of major pharmaceutical company that reveals decades of controversy including the decline of Scientology’s war against psychiatry and big pharma.
Addicts require trained, profession medical help
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The medical director insisted on remaining anonymous and not to name the pharmaceutical company he was from during the interview. When asked about the conflicts between the pharmaceutical industry and Scientology-Narconon, he replied: “ I think the major conflicts have been through Narconon – their refusal to treat people with appropriate medication.”
That reminds me of when I went to a doctor years ago. I said "I think I have a bacterial infection and am requesting an antibiotic". Note I said "I think" not "I am certain".
He was upset. His attitude was HE was the doctor and HE will do the diagnosing, thank you. He asked me some questions and I answered them truthfully.
I DO know the difference between bacterial symptoms and just plain stomach pain, and because of that, thought it likely that I DID have a bacterial infection. When he heard my answers, he had to agree with me (and his arrogance was suddenly gone). I got my antibiotic.
From this I learned that doctors don't like SOLUTIONS, only PROBLEMS. Tell them your problem and if they happen to agree with your own opinion, fine.
My latest trip to a doctor involved occaisional belly pain. It was only after he told me what he thought it was that I told him I thought the same thing.
I no longer trust doctors. I'd much prefer a system where you just say what you want and you get it (narcotics excepted, of course).
Helena
hmmmm.....
sweeping generalities. . .
bizarre illogical conclusions. . .
"Doctors don't like SOLUTIONS, only PROBLEMS"? Sorry, that's straight out of the L. Ron Hubbard Paranoia & Propaganda Playbook.
I'm surprised you don't call them "medicos" like Dr. Hubbard.
hmmmm.....I think I have to nominate that for 2015's worst post of the year, to date.
sweeping generalities. . .
black pr.
bizarre illogical conclusions. . .
conspiratorial cultic certainty. . .
"Doctors don't like SOLUTIONS, only PROBLEMS"? Sorry, that's straight out of the L. Ron Hubbard Paranoia & Propaganda Playbook.
I'm surprised you don't call them "medicos" like Dr. Hubbard.
ps: Because much of my R&D and entrepreneurial work works with medical researchers, surgeons and visionaries, I have had the enormous and inspiring pleasure to work with many doctors quite directly for many years. I have personally witnessed extraordinary dedication, selflessness and a profound love and respect for their patients and the sincere wish to help them in any way possible. As far as I can tell, you say you went to one doctor years ago and drew all these dark conclusions about the noble gentlemen practicing the medical arts. I find the truth to be quite the opposite of what you are reporting. You complain about doctors's "arrogance"---try reading your own post again honestly and see if your own towering arrogance doesn't come up and smack you directly in the face.
For me, even though most of our medical is FEEE in Canada, and Drs. paid a flat fee with no nonesense, I still don't trust
some doctors if I have to rush into a walk-in clinic. The last time, a few months ago, I was prescribed a Med that was 5 times
the cost of an alternative generic one. Me thinks some Drs get kick-backs or whatever for Rx of certain drugs???
Heck, I don't even 'TRUST' many regular people .... only a few I can really trust in many cases.