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Lone Star

Crusader
Well it seems CCHR TX is once again mis-representing a bill regarding mental health.

They are opposing legislation that would help police officers detain and safely deal with mentally ill people. I'm betting that this bill is being offered in order to help deal with a very large problem with mentally ill people living on the streets of our larger cities. I can tell you from experience that this is a real problem. And the hands of the police are virtually tied due to inadequate laws on the books.

Of course Scientology wouldn't take the truly insane in and try to help them. So what is their solution? Nothing. Just let the mentally ill wander around and threaten people and commit crimes daily. Of course in the paranoid Scilon mindset they probably think the cops will start rounding up Scientologists.

Here is the text of the actual bill which is not that long to read or skim.....

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB359/2015

And here is what the deceiving CCHR rep says about it....


Dear Supporters,

We need your immediate action concerning Senate Bill 359, by Senator Royce West.

This bill would allow you to be detained by an emergency room doctor, without intervention by a peace officer for up to 4 hours.

See the bill at:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/Search/DocViewer.aspx?ID=84RSB003591B&QueryText=%22359%22&DocType=B

This would apply if you walked in voluntarily, then wanted to leave without following through with treatment and the ER doctor thought you were mentally ill.

This is coercive, limits one's right to refuse treatment, and could be misused. Besides, people already wait hours in emergency rooms. The likelihood that a person would only be held for four hours is very small. Actually, Emergency Room detention is a national problem. It is known as "psychiatric boarding" and was found by the Washington State Supreme Court to be unconstitutional.

Please write a letter or place a call to your State Senator today asking him or her to oppose Senate Bill 359. If you have a story of your own, please feel free to use it. The following talking points might help as well, but please don't use them verbatim. Put the data into your own words.

Please oppose SB 359, which would allow Emergency Room doctors to detain patients without first getting this signed off on by a Peace Officer.

  • The right to determine whether to accept or refuse treatment, free from threat or coercion is a fundamental human right and should not be violated.

  • Hospitals can have financial incentives to clear an emergency room bed or commit a patient. That's why the right to detain these patients is reserved for peace officers.

  • This bill further stigmatizes those who have mental health diagnoses and puts them at risk of having legitimate physical complaints ignored.

  • This legislation could put people at risk by keeping them from seeking necessary emergency medical care for fear of detention.

  • Peace officers don't have any financial incentive to detain or fail to detain a patient.

  • This bill opens the door to fraud.

  • Emergency rooms are not an appropriate place to involuntarily detain a patient. This bill would lead to restraints, forced drugs, and injuries.

In your letters, remember to stay good mannered, high road, and clearly communicate your thoughts on the matter. Hopefully your legislator shares similar values. On subjects like family and parental rights, this is likely the case. So let's communicate. The above is a general example, and some talking points. (THESE HAVE TO BE COMMUNICATED FROM YOUR OWN REALITY AND IN YOUR OWN WORDS.)

CCHR staff can help you find your State Senator, so call us at 1-800-572-2905 for help. Or you can go to: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/Home.aspx click on "who represents me?" and follow the directions.

This action is very much needed. Please get it done and let us know you have done so and what the response was, if any. The feedback really helps. Thank you for help on this important legislative matter.

Thanks,

Debbie Convery
Public Outreach Executive
CCHR Texas
512-428-9840
 

Churchill

Gold Meritorious Patron
The website Charity Navigator, at www.charitynavigator.org
rates CCHR quite low, but not low enough.

Type CCHR into the search box, and some interesting information is revealed, including salaries, total donations, etc.

Jan Eastgate is not eating rice and beans, it seems.
 

JBWriter

Happy Sapien
The website Charity Navigator, at www.charitynavigator.org
rates CCHR quite low, but not low enough.

Type CCHR into the search box, and some interesting information is revealed, including salaries, total donations, etc.

Jan Eastgate is not eating rice and beans, it seems.

For anyone so inclined...

Type "narconon" into the simple search bar @ the link kindly provided by Churchill above, and see 17 individual results.
Link to search results here: http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?keyword_list=narconon&Submit2=Search&bay=search.results2

Click on each named entity on the results page and you'll see a very brief snapshot of its finances.
(Ex.: Narconon Gulf Coast, Inc. -- Asset Amount: $405,703.00 // Income Amount: $2,097,517.00)

For those who register with CharityNavigator ---- (<--- entirely free, btw) ---- the site will provide
registered members full access to all of the IRS Form 990's filed by the 17 narconon entities. :yes:

JB

ETA: Type-in "Delphi Schools Inc" (or use EIN #93-0630376) and see...
Asset Amount: $27,023,102.00
Income Amount: $18,750,359.00
Form 990 Revenue Amount: $18,033,848.00
 
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Lone Star

Crusader
Well CCHR Texas is whooping up even more hysteria over a that same "psych bill" that is before the Texas Legislative Session right now. (Also in a post I made in Feb.)

Here's yet another email they are sending out to everyone on their supporter list:


Say No to Giving Doctors Police Powers

Say No to Easy Mental Health Detention



Senate Bill 359
What's at Stake: Your liberty, and your freedom to make health or mental health decisions for yourself or your children.

SB 359 gives doctors the power to detain patients in Emergency Rooms, Freestanding Emergency Rooms, and Mental Health Facilities! This is currently a power reserved for peace officers.

While much of the focus of this legislation is on emergency rooms, the bill is much more broad and much more dangerous that that. It allows mental health facilities to detain their clients.

According to current Texas law, a mental health facility includes an inpatient or outpatient mental health facility operated by the Department of State Health Services, a federal agency, a political subdivision, or any person.

This means you could be detained in any emergency room, or anywhere you show up for mental health care.

What's needed: Immediately, you need to call the members of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee. Their numbers are below. Tell them to oppose SB 359.

What's Next: Show up, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 in the Senate Chambers. Fill out a witness card in opposition to this bill. If you represent a group, and can hang around for the hearing, plan to testify against this bill. If you can't, at least fill out a witness card against the bill.
Senate Health and Human Services Committee Members
Senator Charles Schwertner, Chair - (512) 463-0105
Senator Lois W. Kolkhorst - (512) 463-0118
Senator Donna Campbell - (512) 463-0125
Senator Craig Estes - (512) 463-0130
Senator Charles Perry- (512) 463-0128
Senator Jose R. Rodriquez- (512) 463-0129
Senator Van Taylor- (512) 463-0108
Senator Carlos Uresti- (512) 463-0119
Senator Judith Zaffirini- (512) 463-0121

If you are a CCHR Supporter and plan to show up for this hearing, CCHR staff can give you directions on how to get there and where to park.

Call Debbie Convery or George Neikirk with any questions at
512-428-9840.
Your participation is vital to defeat SB 359! Please respond to this email or call CCHR Texas when you have called the committee members to oppose this bill.
Thank you,

Lee Spiller

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First of all, Lee Spiller who wrote the email is the current President of CCHR Texas. He was also one of the OSA volunteers who helped stake out the Rathbun hearings in Comal County, TX in 2013. Walking around acting like a tough guy. He thinks he's Robert DeNiro or something.

Secondly, pretty much everything he wrote above is balderdash. This is a much needed bill because for too long in Texas the police have been overwhelmed with trying to do their normal job plus make decisions regarding a mentally ill detainee. Or at least a detainee that seems to have mental illness. A doctor of course is far more trained to make this diagnosis.

Here is what the bill really is in a snapshot:


Relating to the authority of a peace officer to apprehend a person for emergency detention and the authority of certain facilities to temporarily detain a person with mental illness.


AUTHOR'S / SPONSOR'S STATEMENT OF INTENT Currently, emergency departments and hospitals are not authorized to hold an individual who initially requests mental health services, then subsequently requests to leave.

This provides hospital employees with few options other than calling law enforcement in the case of emergency. S.B. 359 provides that a mental health facility, a hospital licensed under Chapter 241 (Hospitals) of the Health and Safety Code, or a freestanding emergency medical care facility licensed under Chapter 254 (Freestanding Emergency Medical Care Facilities) of the Health and Safety Code may detain a person who voluntarily requested treatment if a physician at the facility (1) believes the person has a mental illness and that due to that mental illness there is substantial risk of harm to the person or to others, and (2) believes there is not sufficient time to file an application for emergency detention or order of protective custody.

That decision and the reasons for it must be documented by the physician and included in the person's medical record. The detention may not last longer than four hours.

S.B. 359 also clarifies that a police officer may enter a facility to initiate an emergency detention after the four-hour hold has run. Supporters of the bill indicate there have been instances where officers have declined to enter the facility to initiate detention because the subject is already in a safe place. As proposed, S.B. 359 amends current law relating to the authority of a peace officer to apprehend a person for emergency detention and the authority of certain facilities to temporarily detain a person with mental illness. RULEMAKING AUTHORITY

This bill does not expressly grant any additional rulemaking authority to a state officer, institution, or agency.

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As you can see, this bill is hardly giving Doctors "police powers". Typical CCHR hyperbolic nonsense.

More can be read here for those who are interested.
 
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Jump

Operating teatime
Classic Scientological deflection.

What effort does the CCHR put toward investigating or limiting the powers of detention used by an abusive cult operating as a high profit confidence scam, masquerading as a self-improvement psychology help-group cloaked as a religion?

:whistling:
 

Lone Star

Crusader
Classic Scientological deflection.

What effort does the CCHR put toward investigating or limiting the powers of detention used by an abusive cult operating as a high profit confidence scam, masquerading as a self-improvement psychology help-group cloaked as a religion?

:whistling:


LOL...Well it's okay if they do it.

I just sent my State Senator an email supporting this bill, and "hatting her up" on CCHR and who they really are. LOL...

She happens to be one of the ones on that committee too, as well as being a former Emergency Room Doctor. I'm betting she will support it.
 
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