Alanzo
Bardo Tulpa
Tribal Narrative?There is no anti-cult movement belief system, standard or otherwise.
Ideology?
Ways of explaining minority religious recruitment, adherence, and leave-taking?
Tribal Narrative?There is no anti-cult movement belief system, standard or otherwise.
I don't need you to tell me how I should interpret my time spent in scientology, I'm quite capable of doing that for myself.I left Scientology 20 years ago. And for a long time, I believed stuff just like the other people do here.
But just like I did when I got myself out of Scientology, I've gotten myself out of the Anti-Scientology views that most people here have, as well, by applying critical thinking to those, too.
I'd just like to say that you have alternative ways to interpret your time spent in Scientology than the standard anticult movement belief system allows. I found that the anticult movement beliefs I picked up after Scientology were actually more damaging to me than my earlier Scientology beliefs were.
The Church of Scientology under David Miscavige is a cult, and you should keep yourself informed of the abuses. But the beliefs these people have tend to make them very hysterical about Scientology and cults and brainwashing, and I found that's no way to go through life.
Here's a post I wrote about that on my blog:
How the AntiCult Movement Ideology Harms Ex Members
Welcome to ESMB, LearningConcern.
Hi there, Strati.I don't need you to tell me how I should interpret my time spent in scientology, I'm quite capable of doing that for myself.
Why does it bother you personally if other people are 'hysterical' (I haven't noticed any hysteria here myself, and this group is obviously who you are aiming your remarks at) about scientology and cults and brainwashing?
I try and steer clear of Facebook most of the time. Not for any particular reason other than I can't figure out how to work it, it's completely beyond me, but having read your post I think I might take a wander over there and see what's going on.Hystericism is not good for a person.
After inspecting the disaster that is the Facebook group "Scientology Deprogramming", and looking into the various cabals that are being ranted about, I had to go outside and get a breath of fresh air. Seriously. I don't think I would want to visit that group for any reason in the future. I wonder how anyone can take that level of noisy, people bashing racket. Talk about hysterical, there never was a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. Maybe the people are ok, but they certainly are a hateful and very excited group. I wonder what is happening there? How did it come to that? ESMB can have it's moments, but I believe rationality prevails, at least from my perspective.
Your homework is to find the definition of Rinder Ninnie.I try and steer clear of Facebook most of the time. Not for any particular reason other than I can't figure out how to work it, it's completely beyond me, but having read your post I think I might take a wander over there and see what's going on.
You do realize that, in one side of your mouth, you are saying that you wonder how anyone can take noisy, people bashing, while in the other side of your mouth you are bashing those people as "scum"?Hystericism is not good for a person.
After inspecting the disaster that is the Facebook group "Scientology Deprogramming", and looking into the various cabals that are being ranted about, I had to go outside and get a breath of fresh air. Seriously. I don't think I would want to visit that group for any reason in the future. I wonder how anyone can take that level of noisy, people bashing racket. Talk about hysterical, there never was a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. Maybe the people are ok, but they certainly are a hateful and very excited group. I wonder what is happening there? How did it come to that? ESMB can have it's moments, but I believe rationality prevails, at least from my perspective.
Well, actually I was making a play on words from Star Wars episode 4, but you are correct that I do wonder how people could survive in that.You do realize that, in one side of your mouth, you are saying that you wonder how anyone can take noisy, people bashing, while in the other side of your mouth you are bashing those people as "scum"?
Yes. It is one of the very few places on the Internet where Ex-Scientologists are allowed to express this kind of criticism.Well, actually I was making a play on words from Star Wars episode 4, but you are correct that I do wonder how people could survive in that.
And I will note that you pointed it out.
But you did not refute that it indeed was going on.
The Hubbard as Science Fiction Writer narrative is 100 degrees inverted the way Scientologists think.(snip)
Telling these people that Hubbard was a fiction-writing conman doesn't gel with what they are observing and experiencing in their early days in Scientology, though it will be retained in the back of their mind as a vague doubt, to be added to as they observe more and more of the 'out points' of the organisation. When people told me "ah, he was a science-fiction writer, so OF COURSE the whole thing is a con", it made me vigilant, but it didn't persuade me that the fascinating body of spiritual writing that he had produced (and that I was gradually consuming) was bogus.
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