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Church of Scientology spied on father of Scientology leader David Miscavige

Discussion in 'David Miscavige and Current Management' started by CommunicatorIC, Apr 9, 2015.

  1. MrNobody

    MrNobody Who needs merits?

    Ghee, Leland, take a deep breath and drink a big glass of warm milk mixed with a teaspoon of wild-flower-honey, your stomach will be thankful.

    Then take another deep breath and read what's been really said.

    USA's first family are currently the Obamas, if I'm not mistaken, and, in the same sense of the word, Scientology's first family are currently the Miscaviges.

    If I'm wrong with my interpretation, then please someone correct me, but until then, that's how I see it. :coolwink:
  2. SPsince83

    SPsince83 Gold Meritorious Patron

    What is the sound of one butt crapping?
  3. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    I think that Jenna is right to put family first. She's respecting her Grandfather's right to privacy and his right to tell what he wants to tell, when he wants to tell it. I think she is doing the right thing.

    Scientologists, on the other hand, have no compunction about throwing a family member under the bus for the "greater good".

    If you ever needed proof that she's successfully shucked the scientology mindset, there it is! :)
  4. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    I'm a "pull the band aid off all at once" kind of guy.....

    If there is something to tell.....why wait years to do it?

    And if you decide to wait....why tease others....about knowing something....but not talking about it?

  5. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    "Never fear to hurt another in a just cause." ~ L Ron Hubbard :confused2:

    "I have to let my grandpa decide when and if he's going to tell his story," ~ Jenna :thumbsup:
  6. Mimsey Borogrove

    Mimsey Borogrove Crusader

    Wait, wait, wait, wait. Look on page 4 of 11 paragraph 6 where he asks the cop to turn the recorder off. Isn't it a well known concept the cops can and do lie during interrogation of suspects? This guy's a PI and doesn't know this?


    Don't tell me David's being set up?

    This is smelling more like rotten fish - why did he yack it up about the "heart attack" with the cops? "Oh, by the way, David said to 'let him die if he's going to?' " That seems a little too, how shall I say it? On point? Like a bad screen play??

    I guess we'll know if the fix is in if they collect a fat check and fade away.

    Note to self:
    1) go on line and sign up for "PI made easy" TED Talk & CD lecture set.
    2) go on line and get the Sequoia University Professional PI certificate.
    3) do a Start up funding of my new company Fair Game Investigations. inc
    4) buy some guns, spy cams, sun glasses, head cams, and an encrypted I pad
    5) M9 "The Sting", The Usual suspects etc. and do that shit in clay
    6) stalk Moxim and hand him my new business card
    7) get that text ( cue Mission Impossible music )
    8) break out the vacation brochures as the dough ray me pours in.

    Ka Schwinggggg


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  7. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    I got into the Cult in the very early 70's

    I'm sure those that got into the Cult in the 50's or 60's or 80's or 90's or grew up in the Cult have a different view on things...

    It seems to me that there were different takes on the Cult...and its running...and operating...over the years... (some what)

    Anyway.....It seems to me, on so many levels to compare the Miscavige the First very inappropriate....

    It is like some say now....Miscavige wants to be known as the "Pope" of Scientology...



    The Cult, in my opinion, WANT to confuse meanings....They strive to be cloaked in Christian terms and concepts...

    You all know about the Cult's "Positioning" policy in the "marketing series.....that is in play also.....

    Hubbard HATED the US Government......and now, 20 years later.....some KID and his family....that fell into running the Cult of referred to as the "First Family."

    It is stupid.

    David Miscavige's wife hasn't been seen publicly for 7 YEARS........

    As far as I know.....David Miscavige doesn't have any he has no family.....of his own....

    If you are referring to Ron Miscavige Sr.......that doesn't make any sense is claimed he was a trumpet player in a band....(a long way from running a cult....)

    The whole use of the term "First Family" in reference to any Miscavige idiotic.

    I have to admit.....the first Cult Event.. in which the Cult trotted out Ronnie Miscavige onto the stage of the Shrine, in first though was second thought was embarrassment for the guy....he was so.....shy........and obviously embarrassed at being there.....

    There is that aspect of the Miscavige family......running the cult....I suppose....
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2015
  8. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    I think some of these stories are so fucked up......very few have the guts to talk about em......
  9. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    Meet the elusive Dwayne Scott Powell, son Daniel (when he was in the Army) and Danny's mother Kelly Olivia Calhoun Buffington, whom Dwayne married in 1990 & divorced several years later.


    Daniel Powell goes by Daniel Smith on Facebook:

    Name: Dwayne Scott Powell (Orange County Marriage Records)
    Name: Kelly Olivia Calhoun
    Date: 30 Oct 1990

    Name: Dwayne Scott Powell (Lake County Marriage Records)
    Name: Nicole Leigh Reynolds
    Date: 2 Sep 1994

    ..then Laura A. Dahler (Powell) (Pettrey) (Radcliffe)
  10. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    I agree.....this PI spilled his guts.........there could be a reason?

    I said above several times...something is fishy about all this.....

    But is could just be that the guy Powell....wanted out? He for sure is out now....he'll never work for the Cult again...

    Of course...that in and of itself could be a ruse....

    Anyway...Mimsey....LOL....Get PAID.....
  11. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

  12. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

  13. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Don't know if the writer said that or Jenna....I doubt that Jenna did....

    Anyway....I wouldn't have had a problem if the article had said the cut throat Dictator...and his jack booted minions....or something like that.....

    But the "First Family...?"....... that's a screwed up analogy.....
  14. Leland

    Leland Crusader

  15. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    I don't believe so. He was detained by police in a different state than his own & found to have several guns, alot of ammo & other things which aroused the suspicions o cops. He may have even felt some camaraderie with the cops because he used to be a corrections officer.

    Note he asked them to turn off the recorder before he told them who he worked for. A bigger question is who spilled the beans of his arrest in the first place. Obviously, he's not happy about it being very elusive. I know for a fact that all PIs hired by the cult sign strict confidentiality agreements. Powell even told the cops he was concerned that their knowledge of his employer could get him sued.

    Given the last 2 PIs that spoke out & eventually settled with a NDA attached, I would expect cult attorneys to approach Powell & offer him $$$ to keep his mouth shut.
  16. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    That guy in the hat looks soooooo familiar. I just can't quite put my finger on where I have seen him before.

    I am kind of wondering if he's the guy on the cover of INTRO TO SCN ETHICS--and that photo of him holding golden-rods kind of suggests I may be right.
  17. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Yes, He did put up quite a fight at first.....about being detained at all....or questioned.

    9 years working as a PI for the Cult........he must know lots of secrets they would like to keep under wraps.......

    Edited: Though I do find it hard to believe...that anyone would "forget" that they had what, 7 or 9 guns in their car.....2232 rounds of ammunition...and various other a loaded Glock, next to the drivers seat...and a stun gun in the front door well...or a bottle of gasoline there too.... and 7 other auto license plates in the car....and and and.....
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2015
  18. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    For me, one of the most interesting parts of the police report is this:

    "They advised that Ronald's son, David Miscavige, the leader of the Church of Scientology, is obviously having them watched because they left the church 2 years ago and David is afraid that Ronald will speak with the media about the negative inner workings of the church and David's abuse of the members of the church."

    Say what? These are the parents of the leader of a tax-exempt "religion" talking about the "negative inner workings of the church" and their son's abuse of its members.:omg:

    Phew. I hope the media pick up on this.
  19. TrevAnon

    TrevAnon Big List researcher

  20. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    Right now somewhere, there's a Scientology family packing up the household possessions, preparing to move, because their house has been foreclosed by the bank for mortgage default.

    There they are, sadly putting their PDC lectures and OEC green volumes into boxes, having lost their home. But then a theta notion flashes through their Scientological minds, cheering them up considerably. They realize that even though they are now homeless due to borrowing a fortune for IAS and IDEAL ORG donations they could not possibly afford, they have truly done the "Greatest Good" for the planet.

    And they would feel proud and defiant and dauntless (and other things the cult promo told them they would be) when they realized that they had sacrificed everything so that standard tech could be used by all of mankind! They would know in their heart that Ron and COB were proud of them, because their selfless donations would help others apply Ron's tech--like getting their O/Ws off and ridding themselves of reactive charge so they could be free!

    WHAT THEY WOULDN'T BE THINKING ABOUT: How their $350,000 in donations actually is right this moment paying for unscrupulous wog PIs to stalk, harass and intimidate former Scientologists (like COB's father) who might get off COB's O/Ws in a media interview or tell-all book.